So why are kids on Zindra?

Was that signage at the Zindra infohub?

Rene - yes.

I think it's at an entrance to the tunnels but the place is beginning to run together in my mind.

I need to go back again.

Mosh Infohub.?

If that is the case, then the author of the hoohah thread on Xstreet forums, broke the rules by deliberately going to the Infohub to trap SL kids with her nudity whilst playing with herself animation. It was suppose to be her protest against SL kids....the fact she broke the terms then should have been AR'd.

to be honest i cannot say, the lag was bad so we flew out as soon as we were able and explored the rest of Zindra.

btw, with all the hubbub, i should point out that Zindra is a fun place to explore(we are going back to finish it hopefully today), especially the dams and the tunnels.

it is my understanding that the Lindens invited EVERYONE to explore Zindra. so why is this thread in existence? will mature land be a no man's land now? maybe I'm not understanding the logic here, but i really do believe it much ado about doo doo.

Because they can bring child avs there, hoping that they won't get reported at all, but if they do, they'll know that only the child av will be banned, and they'll be able to continue operating there.

At least that's the theory, I'm not sure I agree with it. But the whole issue is pretty much irrelevant to the discussion. Sexual ageplay is banned everywhere, and there are already plenty of sims where child avs are banned. Adding an entire continent where child avs are banned isn't going to affect whatever tactics sexual ageplayers are currently using to avoid being caught.



That's not the point, it's never been the point, and I can't imagine why you think it's the point. I suppose LL may have encouraged this misconception among some people involved in the adult entertainment aspects of SL, in order to get their support for Zindra. I don't know for sure, I just know they've said that the move has been supported by such people as well as those looking to avoid sexual content. However, when you read what the rules actually say, as well as the blog post announcing the adult continent, it can't be read that way at all.

The blog post at https://blogs.secondlife.com/community/community/blog/2009/03/12/upcoming-changes-for-adult-content says:

That's the point of Zindra. So that people who don't want to see adult content won't see it. It may have beneficial side effects for people who do want to participate in adult entertainment, but that's never been the purpose.

Up to the 29th for sure all thosee lands belong Governor Linden and anyone age-verified or PIOF is free visit. I've already been twice....i tend to move out of the Infohub quite quickly as i like exploring. Might go back and check that infohub though for that signage.

make sure you check out the tunnels under the dams and be careful of nuclear waste

No, Mosh isn't an InfoHub--I was confused about that too, but that thing is actually called "Port of Zindra"... the no-nudity&etc pic was taken at an actual InfoHub structure that dams the river, in Ortiz.

Would that ruling (no-Nudity) apply across the whole of Zindra for now?

There's a whole lot of "adults" displaying "childish" tendencies here. I hope they all have their pitchforks and torches and feel happy with themselves.

nudity is not even a problem at all..nudity is not considered adult content

i think you have this forum mistaken for the wrong forum..i don't see anyone on either side here looking at doing that

that's just it. some aren't happy unless they have their pitchforks and torches.

Dunno. There is more than one set of underground/river level tunnels and also more than one hub, pretty sure of that much.

Child AVs rejoice! Zindra is a sham! It's just another mainland continent! Glad we cleared that up. It's not like they are forcing people to relocate there right? Or banning them from other mainland continents if they don't move. I'm glad we're not forced to verify to enter that particular mainland either. I hope they didn't make any press announcements about separating all adult content to this place cause we kids is gonna eplore! Kids + Adult continent = fun!

I honestly don't know what the rules will be on Linden-owned land in Zindra. The signs in the InfoHubs surprise me; they surprised me when I saw them in the Arapaima Adult InfoHub, too (the one that opened long before the continent itself). Other than the possibility of rezzing there after a sim crash, I don't know that it's terribly important that nudity (etc) be allowed in those places, but it doesn't seem wrong to allow it, either.

It brings up the question of just what activities are permitted in the open air in Zindra. Before all this Adult stuff came up, it was possible to be reprimanded for doing on your own Mature land stuff your neighbors found offensive *if* it was out in the open instead of "behind closed doors," where the same activities were okay. So I don't know if the same scheme carries over to Zindra now, and if so, what the "open air" limits will be.

My hunch is that pretty much anything goes, anywhere, as long as it's within the ToS/CS and allowed by the landowner. When that landowner is Linden Lab, it's apparently "no nudity", etc.

My take on the signage is that an infohub is something like a train station. While certain things might be allowed on private land, including 'clubs', doing them at a train station when everyone is just chatting or hoping to get where they are going on time, is another matter.

Also it says, in my view, that although those things are possible on Zindra, it's not the free for all that might've been imagined in the start. Can't just run around boinking everywhere, in plainer terms. But who knows...Maybe more about the first and not scaring the horses.

That would make sense, taking into account LL wanting a clean corporate image. Anything officially connected to LL will be strictly PG. They won't inhibit adult behavior, nor will they actively promote it.

Remember... Banlines ain't restricted either. =^-^=

i am thinking it is because it is linden owend and there is really no private land there right now..actually zindra at the moment would technically fall under the PG rating because nothing has been changed in the TOS or CS for adult..
and the info hubs and whole lands at the moment being lindens are pretty much PG guideline because even in mature a non rated non private area is pg..

the ones being very cool about people running around naky N stuff are the lindens at the moment



from community standards

Indecency
Second Life is an adult community, but Mature material is not necessarily appropriate in all areas (see Global Standards below). Content, communication, or behavior which involves intense language or expletives, nudity or sexual content, the depiction of sex or violence, or anything else broadly offensive must be contained within private land in areas rated Mature (M). Names of Residents, objects, places and groups are broadly viewable in Second Life directories and on the Second Life website, and must adhere to PG guidelines.


Global Standards, Local Ratings
All areas of Second Life, including the www.secondlife.com website and the Second Life Forums, adhere to the same Community Standards. Locations within Second Life are noted as Safe or Unsafe and rated Mature (M) or non-Mature (PG), and behavior must conform to the local ratings. Any unrated area of Second Life or the Second Life website should be considered non-Mature (PG).

thats if people wanted to be picky about it..

all LL is doing right now is giving people a glance and a chance to pick their lands then they are closing it again and the lottery begins..

This is stressful for everyone, what I think is worth thing about is how does the AR process work, I've read there is a right of reply. But don't know much more than that.

I tried to open a string on it a while back which died off. Also better ban abilities, ie baning a whole account not just the av, so they can't make alts and come back again to harass.

If the AR process is stable, transparent and accountable, there won't be a problem for any innocent adult or child av falsely ARed by a vigilante. Also if one could ban properly it'd go along way to solving the griefers.

Also what can people do now to protect themselves, ie mention no age play in their profiles etc

Of COURSE furries are about beastiality! It's nothing but humans having sex with animals, all the time! How could furries have any other purpose?



Sorry, I had to.

lol, yeh that carrot, eh.

But you're not serious that furries are animal fuc*ers by default are ya? Pep has a sracasm button, it's, this one.

My alt is a realistic dog av, he's not out rooting anything, even though main me (human) is up for it, for me he's about something entirely different, like digging holes and high jumping etc.

Of course not. Shoot, I don't even have any (finished) human avatars in my vast collection. My SL business of the past couple of years that I pay RL bills with is based on furry avatars, although my non-anthros are usually more popular.

My "I'm joking" tag is usually but I'm not very good at making myself clear no matter what I do.