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So why are kids on Zindra?

Moesha Yakubu
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06-19-2009 13:54
From: Pussycat Catnap
No.

I've been all over those hubs, and not seen that anywhere but on these forums.

I've even hung out nude with Lindens.


they are there. if someone would explain to me how to post pics, i will show you. at every info hub, there were signs saying: No Nudity, No Sex noises, etc;.
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06-19-2009 13:57
From: Moesha Yakubu
they are there. if someone would explain to me how to post pics, i will show you. at every info hub, there were signs saying: No Nudity, No Sex noises, etc;.

You put the string "" after it.
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-19-2009 13:58
From: Argent Stonecutter
You put the string "" after it.

ty

back with pics!
Mickey Vandeverre
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06-19-2009 14:05
From: Pussycat Catnap


The whole point of clearing out the kids is to clear the Pedos out of SL (no longer any place where you can have adult activity and kid AVs together) and clear out any false smearing of the rest of us. The whole point of having an adult continent is to create a safe divide - so there can be a place for adult activity without disturbance.


That is your point? LL's point? this thread's point? Please clarify.
Milla Janick
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06-19-2009 14:09
From: Pussycat Catnap
Yep, its called Zindra. They just did that.

The way Linden Lab has crafted the Adult Content policy, they have guaranteed Zindra will not be all adult content.
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Argent Stonecutter
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06-19-2009 14:15
From: Pussycat Catnap
The whole point of having an adult continent is to create a safe divide - so there can be a place for adult activity without disturbance.
That's not what Meta Linden said:

From: Meta Linden[/quote

B) The voice you are NOT hearing on the forums (by definition) is the millions of new potential users we want to enjoy Second Life like you do, but aren't here yet. Surveys of people who tried SL but decided it wasn't for them, as well as feedback from new organizations (educational, corporate, and other social networks), pointed out the high visibility of AO content in M spaces as a blocking concern for them. It is for *these* silent potential users we are making this change


The whole point of the Adult Continent is to sweep some of the more obvious porn under the rug, and hope that increases the number of institutional residents. That's it.
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06-19-2009 14:18
From: Argent Stonecutter
That's not what Meta Linden said:



The whole point of the Adult Continent is to sweep some of the more obvious porn under the rug, and hope that increases the number of institutional residents. That's it.

Some would argue that those using Zindra already are institutional residents.
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Clarissa Lowell
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06-19-2009 14:21
From: Daniel Regenbogen
Both can. Maybe even NPIOFs? I mean, if you have L$ in your account, sell them for USD and then go premium, you wouldn't need PIOF to become premium. Just a guess.


You do have to give payment info to become premium because it's an ongoing billing. You can pay monthly or yearly. Yearly works out to a better deal overall.
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06-19-2009 14:22
From: Argent Stonecutter
Have you or anyone you know actually tried it? I thought that I had and that it required me to provide payment info.
Untested. Which is why I qualified it with "I believe". (^_^)y
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06-19-2009 14:23
From: Brenda Connolly
Some would argue that those using Zindra already are institutional residents.
*rimshot*

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06-19-2009 14:32
omg he even has them playing musics lol
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06-19-2009 14:35
From: Argent Stonecutter
The whole point of the Adult Continent is to sweep some of the more obvious porn under the rug, and hope that increases the number of institutional residents. That's it.

If you take Meta seriously. I think it has more to do with finding something to do with a crapload of idle abandoned Openspace servers.
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Moesha Yakubu
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grrrrrrrs at flickr....
06-19-2009 14:39
i have the picture but at the mo flickr wont allow me to upload it. if you visit each info hub and go into the cafe, you will see above the counter/bar area a sign that Marianne(sp) mentioned in her earlier post. the picture i have is of the Ortiz/Gilda info hub.
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06-19-2009 14:41
the pictures are on this thread a few times.. i wouldn't worry about it ;)
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-19-2009 14:44
i know but still, it's the principle of the thang!

*goes to beat the carp outta flickr one more time*
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06-19-2009 14:48
From: Qie Niangao



I gittid them for yew from Qie's posts :D
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Clarissa Lowell
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06-19-2009 14:51
From: Ceka Cianci
I gittid them for yew from Qie's posts :D


Oh I saw that bar! (nothing was clickable on it - /me sighs)

I thought it was tongue in cheek. (As well as a general request that the hub not turn into the annoyance infohubs currently are)
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-19-2009 14:52
From: Ceka Cianci
I gittid them for yew from Qie's posts :D


tankooo!!

and Clarissa, i don't think so. i do believe they mean it at the info hubs because of that very reason.

ETA: click the milkshake looking thingie on the bar, the drink list pops up for you and you can have your choice beverage. :)
Clarissa Lowell
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06-19-2009 14:53
Then I like the way it was worded and the little pictogram signage. hehe
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Moesha Yakubu
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06-19-2009 14:55
From: Clarissa Lowell
Then I like the way it was worded and the little pictogram signage. hehe


i chuckled as well. :D
Kidd Krasner
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06-19-2009 14:56
From: Pussycat Catnap
Yep, its called Zindra. They just did that.

They sold it to you? Then what are we arguing about? You own it, everyone agrees that you're entitled to set your own rules.

Oh, wait. You misinterpreted what was said. Again. What was said is that you're free to buy your own land and set your own rules, not that Zindra was created so that you could set the rules for everyone else.
LisaHot Juran
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06-19-2009 14:59
Just a funny thought. I am hearing Neil Diamond in my head...They Come to America...
But am instead saying They Come to A Zindura

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwo4eZ-MF10

I suppose a parody can be worded to make a continental theme song.
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06-19-2009 15:00
From: Argent Stonecutter
*rimshot*



Hey Argent....do you keep your own Ferrets? Seems like photos at home
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06-19-2009 15:01
From: LisaHot Juran
I suppose a parody can be worded to make a continental theme song.


Do eet
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06-19-2009 15:02
From: Dana Hickman
I don't appreciate that Dakota.. not one bit. The only thing there that's not been discussed in other AO groups as a mutual concern, or that's obviously my own opinion, is a hypothetical example meant to convey how it feels to many adult close to this.


Do you think I am wholly without context when it comes to how "adults" feel about this situation - what you call "fear"? Well, I call it hysteria; and I'm pretty sure I'm aware of the way people "feel" about this because there is an exactly analogous "fear" in the child-av community (as it were), the only difference being a reversal of roles.

Ever wonder why you see entire sims dedicated to Gor, or free sex orgies, or furries, or Star Trek RP - but you don't see a lot of sims dedicated to child RP? They're out there, believe me, but you don't hear about them. Why? Because child avs only tell other child avs about them. Again, why? Because they're afraid. Of being griefed, falsely AR'd, and so on. The fear is not so prevalent now, true enough - but during the time period around six months after I joined SL, it was there - the adult-hysteria. It was a practically obsessive fear. There was one particular mania in which kids were afraid of being falsely AR'd for underage as a form of griefing. The hysteria is why kids typically kept to their own sims - and still do (though perhaps now more out of simple habit).

But it was nonsense. I tried to be the voice of reason a few times - you can check my bi-annually-updated blog for evidence - but of course everybody knew somebody who knew somebody who knew of one real life example, and that was enough to maintain the irrational culture of fear.

Look at what you're suggesting. You're suggesting that on land classified as "adult", a child avatar can stroll into a sex club and get everyone inside banned. That DOES NOT EVEN MAKE SENSE.

There's been sex clubs all over the Mature mainland forever, and kids are allowed on Mature mainland. So how many entire clubs have been wiped off the face of the grid because of aggressive child-attacks? A hundred? fifty?

...one? No?

Exactly.

Now, were there in fact two griefers on Zindra yesterday wearing child avatars and screwing with people? Don't know, wasn't there. But I can absolutely believe it - just as I can absolutely believe that an entire kid-themed sim was brought down by a pair of griefers dressed like furries running around dropping self-replicating "Yiff in Hell" cubes all over the place, even though I didn't see THAT happen either. The group chat was singing with the sim owners' explainations of what they were doing to repair the sim as the attack was happening. But am I to gather from this that furries are "out to get" child avatars? No - that's stupid. To say that would be allowing myself to be gripped by hysteria.

So a couple of days ago, a child av visited Zindra - remaining inside an infohub in which sex and nudity was explicitly banned, despite it being an "adult continent". That was all that was there - a non-nude infohub, and acres of empty grass, with a couple of roads here and there. This asks so hotly for a reckoning? This needs to be banned by the Lindens?

Hysteria.

Trust me, if you put up a sex club on Zindra and some child av walks inside it, you'll be able to mass-AR with impunity. That's the way it's SUPPOSED to work. There's no whatsoever to think it won't happen that way...unless you've allowed the hysteria to convince you otherwise.
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