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Dnali Anabuki
Still Crazy
Join date: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 1,633
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10-23-2008 16:26
From: Marianne McCann You missed the notice. It was all in the blog a good long time ago now.
Mari
(Who applied, but was not accepted into mole-dom) Thanks Mari. I did read the original post but completely missed what it was about. Reading it again a bit more closely. I think what confused me is that I missed the mention of new areas but thought it was about refurbishing the existing mainland. There was also no mention of putting the theme land up for auction. I took it as being a great thing for the mainland and perhaps it will turn out to be. Dnali returns to snuggling up on her sim happy about all the unsung creative heroes and heroines that make SL something other than an empty wasteland. Time will tell...
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Argos Hawks
Eclectically Esoteric
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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10-23-2008 17:11
From: Michael Linden But let's hope everyone builds a nice Nautilus-ish building on their parcel! You really just don't get it.
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Argos Hawks
Eclectically Esoteric
Join date: 24 Jan 2007
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10-23-2008 17:57
From: Qie Niangao Per Jack's office hours, auction is still scheduled to start tomorrow (Friday). I've been having moments of compulsive arithmetic lately: There are 30 sims in Nautilus City Island, of which 8 double-primmed ones are to be auctioned--or, the equivalent of 4 full sims of land area. With full-sim Mainland tier at US$195, I figure they're getting about US$25/month/sim of tier out of this deal, if we include the 22 Linden content sims. Should one count those sims in the average? Well, a private Estate would have to pay for its citadel and temple and crash sites and etc. Maybe they could get by with OpenSpaces, so maybe the comparable cost isn't a full US$295/mo for those sims. But it wouldn't be zero, either. I'm not arguing that LL shouldn't populate new lands with fresh content.  It's just compulsive arithmetic. (Extra credit: Calculate the Profit on LDPW Mole wages for the hours spent making Nautilus City.) I didn't think about the unsold regions. 4 sims paid for by tier broken out across 13.5 effective sims (assuming the 22 unsold regions are all openspaces) comes out to $57.78 per sim per month. If you account for the Linden owned prims in the sims that do get sold, it's even less than that. And, like you calculated, if any of the unsold sims are full sims, the numbers go down even further. When Bay City came about, I saw it as a nice showcase area that LL could offer at a monthly loss for the promotional value of it. Nautilus City, and the suggestion that other themed areas are coming, really suggests that LL can operate rather well on significantly reduced tier. $295/month is the barrier that keeps a lot of projects from getting built. Lower the barrier, and we should see a lot more grand works get accomplished.
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Perre Anatine
reflect..repent..reboot
Join date: 6 Jun 2007
Posts: 714
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10-23-2008 18:57
From: Argos Hawks You really just don't get it. Oh..pop back in a few weeks time and take a look at the city..and I suspect the penny might just have dropped. |
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Alisha Matova
Too Old; Do Not Want!
Join date: 8 Mar 2007
Posts: 583
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10-23-2008 19:34
This may have been brought up all ready. I just found two full sims just south of Nautilus both with auction ids and showing purple on the map. I wonder if these will go up tomorrow too. Might be a good strategy. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Alphubel/228/21/32 |
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Perre Anatine
reflect..repent..reboot
Join date: 6 Jun 2007
Posts: 714
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10-23-2008 19:41
Oh yes..loads of purple auction squares appearing on the map..get your credit cards at the ready!!
I'm holding fire till Hannibal comes up for grabs!!
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Argent Stonecutter
Emergency Mustelid
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 20,263
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10-23-2008 19:57
From: Perre Anatine I'm holding fire till Hannibal comes up for grabs!! What about Baal? And there's no temple in it? |
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Perre Anatine
reflect..repent..reboot
Join date: 6 Jun 2007
Posts: 714
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10-23-2008 20:12
Hmm yes..Baal = no temple = no humungous lag = nice!! But then I'm a big Hannibal Lecter fan = Hannibal = nice also!! Of course when I say I'm a big Hannibal Lecter fan I do of course mean I'm a big fan of Anthony Hopkins and his portrayal of the fictitious fiend Lecter..well y'know what I mean Decisions..decisions..  |
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leliel Mirihi
thread killer
Join date: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 129
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10-23-2008 21:53
From: Qie Niangao
I've been having moments of compulsive arithmetic lately: There are 30 sims in Nautilus City Island, of which 8 double-primmed ones are to be auctioned--or, the equivalent of 4 full sims of land area. With full-sim Mainland tier at US$195, I figure they're getting about US$25/month/sim of tier out of this deal, if we include the 22 Linden content sims.
City.)
This would only be true if all of the land was owned by only 4 people. With 8 people it goes up to 33.33 per sim, and so on... |
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Kitty Pashinin
Registered User
Join date: 23 Feb 2008
Posts: 2
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10-24-2008 00:24
I decided to do some underwater exploring... all kinds of stuff around Nautilus.. I'm sure there is a lot I haven't found... yet.. lol Here are a few pics I took http://s222.photobucket.com/albums/dd230/mzkitty77/Nautilus/ |
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Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
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10-24-2008 03:11
From: leliel Mirihi This would only be true if all of the land was owned by only 4 people. With 8 people it goes up to 33.33 per sim, and so on... Aha! Another compulsive arithmetician.  Right, that's always a problem with comparing Linden revenue between Mainland and Estates: there are lots of variables if one takes into account all the possible ownership tier levels. To include the membership fee? If so, on the annual, quarterly, or monthly payment schedule? That bonus 512? The weekly stipend? As for percentage of "overhead" area retained for Linden content, there are many ways to look at that, too. Historically, Sansara and to a lesser extent Heterocera had a relatively large amount of Linden surface area for stuff like roads, protected water, Linden Village, Pooley, InfoHubs, Welcome Areas, etc. With the Korean continent, that decreased dramatically, and even further in the eastern continents. In this view, the 22 new sims of Linden content might be seen as just a concentration of all the stuff that's missing from the newer continents. |
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Jerboa Haystack
TGTKFMA
Join date: 23 Sep 2008
Posts: 2,283
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10-24-2008 06:59
Aren't the auctions supposed to start some time today?
I'm eagerly awaiting with baited breath to see where they end up.
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 4,103
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10-24-2008 07:00
From: Jerboa Haystack Aren't the auctions supposed to start some time today?
I'm eagerly awaiting with baited breath to see where they end up. I had thought the first auctions were going to be finishing today - that is, people would be able to start moving in today - but it looks like today's the day (if they keep on schedule) that the auctions start showing up on the auction page. I'd guess it'll be Sunday before anybody can move in... |
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Nimue Jewell
Unabashedly Leggy
Join date: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,745
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10-24-2008 07:21
Yeah, there is an amazing amount of stuff down there. I finally bought Siggy's swimming HUD last night, and some scuba gear and had a great time exploring the open waters around Nautilus.   |
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Lexxi Gynoid
#'s 86000, 97800
Join date: 6 Aug 2007
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10-24-2008 07:55
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
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10-24-2008 08:03
I spent 20 minutes staring at those statues and a sign language chart, trying to figure out what they were spelling out...
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Nimue Jewell
Unabashedly Leggy
Join date: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,745
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10-24-2008 08:17
From: Sindy Tsure I spent 20 minutes staring at those statues and a sign language chart, trying to figure out what they were spelling out... Ohhh..I hadn't thought of that! (BTW, great pics everyone!) |
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
Posts: 4,103
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10-24-2008 08:38
From: Nimue Jewell Ohhh..I hadn't thought of that! Well.. Some only have 3 fingers, IIRC, so it wasn't really that brilliant of an idea.. |
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Myhrrhleine Wingtips
Registered User
Join date: 10 Mar 2008
Posts: 29
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10-24-2008 08:43
A word of warning to anyone exploring in the de Ruyter area. Be sure to wear protective gear as the jellyfish are aggressive. They nearly sank my sub.
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Lexxi Gynoid
#'s 86000, 97800
Join date: 6 Aug 2007
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10-24-2008 08:53
From: Sindy Tsure I spent 20 minutes staring at those statues and a sign language chart, trying to figure out what they were spelling out... Its the peace sign
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
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10-24-2008 09:12
From: Lexxi Gynoid Its the peace sign Which, depending on the finger positions, could also be the sign for K, V or 2.. edit: looks like the auctions have started! There's about 20 on there now, closing Sunday at 9AM SLT.. |
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Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
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10-24-2008 09:27
From: Sindy Tsure edit: looks like the auctions have started! There's about 20 on there now, closing Sunday at 9AM SLT.. Aannnnnnnnd.... they're off! So far, only a couple have their initial bids, though one spot is currently at 5k
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Jerboa Haystack
TGTKFMA
Join date: 23 Sep 2008
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10-24-2008 09:31
I wish the map info was available though. I can't log in to see which parcels these are. 
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Sindy Tsure
Will script for shoes
Join date: 18 Sep 2006
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10-24-2008 09:31
From: Marianne McCann Aannnnnnnnd.... they're off!
So far, only a couple have their initial bids, though one spot is currently at 5k /me refuses to get her hopes up until Sunday morning. edit: and the damn land store map hasn't been updated! Arrrgggg!! MICHAEL!!!! |
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Nimue Jewell
Unabashedly Leggy
Join date: 20 Mar 2007
Posts: 1,745
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10-24-2008 10:19
The freebies are available in the Marketplace now, and there are a TON of them. http://slurl.com/secondlife/Nautilus%20-%20Shalim/227/113/25 Have fun! |
