Broadly offending content ~ what is it for *you*?

That's about par for the kind of idiocy I was referring to.

"Pedophilia is alive and well in Second Life". WHERE? SHOW ME. Show me where there are children, REAL children in SL being sexually molested by adults against their will (or even "consensually".

What's that? You CAN'T? No kidding!

All your practicing is nothing more than alarmism for self-serving purposes. You're not actually pointing out anything of substance.



I'm sorry, I don't buy into hearsay evidence from alarmists on something that simply doesn't exist.



No, this is the case of people who have no clue what the f*ck they are talking about attempting to define moral/social policy. At best, you're being no better than Mark Kirk or Jack Thompson. I bet you're one of those people who are against "violent video games corrupting our youth", too.

Yes.. Lovely that you decide to twist words instead of use actual quotes. (=_=)

My reference to fun was in regards to my RL childhood. Though, I still have fun. I like the idea of enjoying life. Why do you seem to be so strongly against it? (O.o)

This post is highly offensive. Fact.

This is the most offensive post that I have ever read in this forum. Personal Opinion.

Exactly the reason for my statement above.

Frightening.

Des, baby, you just love it when you open a seemingly innocent little can and it turns out all these worms, dont'cha?

I'm going to say Mindfuck a few more times to see if we cant get this thread closed.

mindfuck mindfuck mindfuck mindfuck mindfuck

Just doing my part and willing to sacrifice myself for the good of the many.

Lias: if you have information about something darker than dancing, then work with that. Attacking nudists AS nudists is just going to get people mad at you. Whether you're right or wrong, the nudists aren't the problem.

Though I'm not a nudist myself, I am going to side with ASCIIrider's.

What's offensive to me are people trying to impose their poisonous, narrow-minded morals upon others. I blame religion. I blame society. Let's teach our kids to be ashamed of their bodies and cover up. Let's teach them that nudity = sex. I hate this level of ignorance and it makes me sick to be associated with a society that does.

Then again, arguing with someone like this is a pointless endeavor. Give up, you will never break past their walls of bigotry, ignorance, and doublethink. Just shake your head and ignore them and realize that our world will become filled with more people like this. All hail the Idiocracy.

I read the same post that you did, and your comment about is either mistaken or lying. I fancy the latter - for the purpose of promoting your personal desires.

You haven't? There's always a first time for everything, but thinking that it won't happen is no reason at all for encouraging illegal activities such as libel. And you talk about morals?

Agrees with Pie.

/me sticks my neck way out.

I find this thread offencive. I respect you Desmond, but I think you could use your influence to promote tollerance instead of the opposite.

I'll take a whack at the neck. Des posted a question about what people find offensive. What is it that you find offensive in his question? Maybe, probably, I read it wrong, but to me it is a neutral question and it does not promote tolerance nor intolerance.

Phil, remove the rose colored glasses and pay attention: The guy was a member of two SL Pedophile groups that Linden Lab had to step in and close down. He made those displaced pedo group members members of his nude beach. And now there are complaints of pedophilia surfacing about that nude beach. It not an unlucky coincidence he was a member of two pedophile groups prior to forming this one. A duck is a duck. He has not denied being affilliated with these groups or taking in their members. When something is so obvious I don't understand how you can continue to deny it. We all have our happy place where reality cannot creep in - but come on.

No court in America will allow a case to go to trial involving negative characteration of an avatar. I do not believe any attorney will stand up in a court room and defend the right of anyone to pretend to frolic nude with nude children on the internet. The maniac that does that then thrusts their virtual pedophile hobbie into the real world with their real name - thus doing a more thorough job of uncovering pedophilia in Second Life than anyone could.

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Missed =D

I think i used the wrong word. Tolerance is catchy to me because it's in the SL mission statement. Let me rephrase and use; Mutual Respect.

And perhaps even the question Des asked is innocent enough. I am just finding something wrong with pointing out all the things we don't like about each other.

I don't think any court in america would let you slander and libel someone, since he and others have proven his 'interaction' is not only with precedence WITHIN the US, but in no way related to molestation as you are painting it.

It is only your perception and personal bias making you imagine things not there Lias. I would rather live next door to Ascii, rl and sl, than in the same -state- as you.

I would also add: In the state of Vermont there are -no- laws agaisnt public nudity, as long as it is simply public nudity like a beach, and not for sexual purposes. And yes, cops might question the teenagers hanging around a parking lot nude, but if its just hanging out, ITS PERFECTLY LEGAL. Hell they could even *gasp* dance!

This is not an abstract 'what if.' This is an actual event.

Take of -your- blinders lias. Ageplay is not equal to pedophilia.

Besides the fact of that, if someone was underage in rl, they get removed as SL is 18+.

If someone portrays themselves as 18+ but aren't, and something occurs- whos to blame? The person who didn't know a 12 year old child was doing this? Or the PARENT WHO SHOULD HAVE PAID ATTENTION to their child.

In all honesty, Lias, I'd rather share a apartment with Hitler (not Godwining, its already been mentioned) or Dahmer than live in the same state as you. You're worse than either of them.

Lias, do yourself a favor an re-consider insinuating that any posters here on the forum are pledophiles. It's false, defaming, misleading, and indicates a major flaw in the integrity of your arguement... Whatever your arguement is. (=_=)

Nudism is not (sexual)ageplay. Ageplay is not pedophelia. And, your twisty way of spinning other peoples' words is ruining your credibility. (=_=)

I hesitated at the last second, because your neck was way to pretty to harm.

Don't know about that, here in Australia, here it's commonly known as "cyber/internet stalking or bullying" and yes you get strung up for it. Legislations and police powers are being passed to prosicute it as it is relatively new. I would guess a lot of other countries be doing the same.

Mud slinging isn't a good hobby, calling people pedo with out proof ruins innocent lives and you are responsible for you actions.

So call them nudist avs and child avs from now in... say you don't like it and why, petition to have them banned it is your democratic right, that's all fine, but stop the ugly irresponsible slander.

Yeah, ok. Your the woman that posted that she took nude pictures of herself as a child and distributed them - so much for credibility.

The fact that the guy was a member of two pedohpile groups in Second Life shut down by Linden Lab seems not to have any impact on your way of thinking. Such a wonderful happy Place you are in.

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America too, Ian

http://wik.ed.uiuc.edu/index.php/Cyberbullying

http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/05/prosecutors-ask-for-fine-probation-for-lori-drew/

most likely just ageplay groups shut down because of narrowminded nazis like yourself Liar, I mean Lias.

Nude poloroids are just an older version of 'sexting':

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/01/15/national/main4723161.shtml

It doesn't hurt her credibility at all, Liar. The worst part isn't even your hate filled biased basis- its that someone could 'sext' a nude picture to someone. They Just hit the cancel instead of viewing, then they get arrested later for a picture they neither requested or looked at.

"Your honor I am suing for damages because this person called my avatar a pedophile - you can see in these screenshots that my avatar is merely an adult completely nude with these child avatars completely nude hanging out with me. We're just having fun"
Try that in an American courthouse. I'll bring the popcorn.
I believe him being a member of two sanctioned pedophile groups in Second Life and then taking in the members of one of those groups into his group shows quite a bit. You weep for the wrong innocent lives.

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As for what I deleted- YOU just BELIEVE. No proof they were even pedophilic.

As for the quote:

Your honor, I am suing for damages caused by this person who both slanders and libels due to narrow minded points of view. As you can see in these pictures nothing further is going on than in the Golden Gate National Recreation Area, and instead of being in the real world, where we can be certain that children are children, it is in a virtual world where minors are not allowed, thus no children. its obvious we're just dancing, any anything further imferred is from the defendants clearly deranged mind.

Yes, I'll bring popcorn Liar.

http://www.sfbg.com/nudebeaches/sanfrancisco.php

Legal status:Clothing-optional use is permitted in this portion of the Golden Gate National Recreation Area (GGNRA) as long as you don't touch anyone and no one complains. Rangers occasionally visit the area on foot and horseback.

You seem to LOVE the word PEDOPHILE. YOU said they were pedophile groups YOU not SL not LL YOU!

I joined naturist groups that advertised a NATUURIST lifestyle, and because they were openly listed yeah they drew ageplayers. .yes AGEPLAYERS. NOT Pedophiles.

By saying Pedophile over and over again that implies sex with REAL children. Umm myself and the majority of the people at my place don't even have sex with PIXEL children let alone real ones. So yes you're commiting lible, defamation of character and a few other things.

Also by these false accusations you're in viloation of LL's Community Service Agreement namely.

Intolerance
Combating intolerance is a cornerstone of Second Life's Community Standards. Actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole. The use of derogatory or demeaning language or images in reference to another Resident's race, ethnicity, gender, religion, or sexual orientation is never allowed in Second Life.

Harassment
Given the myriad capabilities of Second Life, harassment can take many forms. Communicating or behaving in a manner which is offensively coarse, intimidating or threatening, constitutes unwelcome sexual advances or requests for sexual favors, or is otherwise likely to cause annoyance or alarm is Harassment.

and

Disclosure
Residents are entitled to a reasonable level of privacy with regard to their Second Life experience. Sharing personal information about a fellow Resident --including gender, religion, age, marital status, race, sexual preference, and real-world location beyond what is provided by the Resident in the First Life page of their Resident profile is a violation of that Resident's privacy. Remotely monitoring conversations, posting conversation logs, or sharing conversation logs without consent are all prohibited in Second Life and on the Second Life Forums.

The American Court system would love for some maniac to come to court with screen shots of their avatars nude with child avatars. This action would help push through new definitions of child pornography. The laws need to catch up with technology. Include the 3D images along with the 2D images. Your contributions will be more than welcome.

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Oh, while I'm about it... using the passive voice to refer to your own actions isn't nearly as effective a misdirection as you think.

If there's sexual ageplay going on, you shouldn't need to argue that nudism is de-facto evidence of perversion.

I'm not denying that there is, by the way. I don't know. I do know you were trying to smear innocent behavior in your cause... righteous or not.

Just wondering if anyone on this thread has actually worked with pedophiles in a professional sense or screened folks with psychological evaluations for those tendencies...I have....

Lias...you are dead wrong.

Adult on adult fantasy is a mind thing...not a real life thing. it is NOT the forte of pedophiles. they dont bother with adult on adult fantasy. end of story.

To publicly slander someone without even one BIT of evidence that any RL crime has been committed or intended is horrible. I worry about the RL implications of that MUCH more than any SL ageplay or nudism. Asking folks to publicly shame innocent people on blogs etc IS a crime and should be punished.

SL adult on adult fantasy is NOT a crime...no punishment needed.

You seem to love nude child avatars.

Speechless.

As I suggested, gather up all of your pixle nude child avatar evidence and file a court case.

You outed yourself (for some odd reason). You could have just ignored the thread and left it alone. And nothing is false. You were a member of two groups that had their land seized by Linden Lab for pedophilia. When an adult has sex with a child its pedophilia where I come from. Your new age word 'ageplay' sounds wonderful. But a duck is a duck.


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I have no dount that a case of defamation resulting in financial loss would go to trial in an American court.

Sexual ageplay is a TOS violation which Linden Lab is exceptionally sensitive to. From the comments in this thread, it appears they're aware of the activity going on at the location in question. I presume if there is sexual ageplay, or pedophilia going on there, it will be dealt with pretty quickly.