Broadly offending content ~ what is it for *you*?

So now he admits its pedophilia but its simulated so it doesn't count. How precious.

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Activities between (amongst?) consenting adults -- what's to misunderstand here? People who get fiction and reality mixed up are scary.

Consenting adults that have to roleplay as nude unsupervised children interacting with nude adults - even more scary.

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Dear, it is not apart of growing up for a child to take nude pictures of her/himself and distribute them in their community. It's not cute. Or charming. It is not the norm and anyone accepting those pictures is guilty of handling child pornography. The absolute sad thing is that you werent aware of that.

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And like I told you if they're there, nude on the beach as well, they're just as guilty.. look up hypocryte in the dictionary. Also dancing while nude, is not a crime.. no matter what age.



No I said I wouldn't stand for my granddaughter to be sexually molested. and ye sI was part of groups that were naturist resorts, that the agerplayers started coming to and got them shut down. One the owner got a 1 day suspension not for him ageplaying but LL showing up and seeing it while no staff was around.The second closed it by himself after the Gteam told him that there may be ageplay going on there and to deal with it.



Acccutrate logs? I copy pasted on of your own sentences in our IM's back to you changing ONE word to make it look like you were a pedo as a point.



Fisrt off you keep calling ageplayers pedophiles, learn the difference.

Pedophile (n) sexual perversion in which children are the preferred sexual object

Ageplay is a type of sexual roleplaying in which a person pretends to be an infant, child or adolescent.

And of course in a previous post you stated you've never been to nor will ever go there, so everything hearsay. I heard Elvis was spotted at a 7-11 outside of Miami last week.

Now because I run a place in SL and own land I'm now responsible for people's progfile content? I'm suppoused to check every profile, every group?

Now sending a group messase saying "C'mon down to the beach, I'm going on air live" is me specifically inviting kids av's or ageplayers? Guess what I wasn't inviting a single person, the group was open enrollment! As for agerplayers joining ummm unless they ageplay, unless me or a beach guard catches them, I'm suppoused to know they are.. how?

Yes I admit AGEPLAYERS have shown up, and when caught have been banned from my sim. Guess what Ageplayers show up EVERYWHERE there's kids, so why don't we close down al lthe adoption agencies kids clubs...etc. If I required people to wear tuxes and ball gowns if kidsare there ageplayes would still show up.

I'd like to really thank you for taking things I said and twisted them to fit in with your "moral majority" beliefs. You wanna deal with pedos? go after the REAL ones who lurk in kids games such as Club Penguin and Toontown.

In the course of hstory things like this have happened over and over again...The Crusades, Spanish Inquisition, Salem Witch Trials.. etc. And all of them were wrong as well.

Oh well. I guess it's time to hit the awesome button.

"Hitler, hitler, hitler."

If this nudist beach is with in the laws which it seems to pretty much be, isn't this deliberate stalking/harassment/griefing?


Threats and accusations of sex crimes. When one is trying to lay charges, you have to wait until there's guilt proven before you try to destroy their reputation. Also probably a bit beyond the ability of these vigilantes, if they are found innocent, you got to leave them alone.

Vigilantes don't realise is that pedo'scould be lurking in SL furniture shops, in a victim support groups, a dance parties, a park... malls just absolutly anywhere they can be inconspicuous.

This nasty slandering and willful attacks on the nudists and child avs rights to be in SL and their parcels of land is out of line and so utterly ignorant.

I've mentioned before I had a gay friend fired from his job working with kids becuase he was gay and therefore a pedo. That was only 2 decades ago.

Ty. I KNEW I left someone out in the history.

*Whips off her pants and waves them in salute.

So you suggested that they make a blog in which they will accuse people of being pedophiles. Remember that an avatar is just an animated drawing, so it cannot be a pedophile. The blog must therefore accuse the people at the keyboards of it. You actually suggested to people that they lay themselves open to libel actions? I was going to ask you if you're crazy, but I realise you're not, because you want others to take the risk instead of you. If you're so concerned about mixed child and adult nudity, why don't *you* create the blog and accuse the males at the keyboards of being pedophiles? And why not throw in a few accusations against nude adult females too? The more reds under the beds the merrier, huh?

Careful, ,there may be child av's around when ya do that. .then they'll come after you as well.

It's sad that some have such narrow minds..... and instead of broadening them they want everyone else to fit into their tunnel vision. There's enough REAL LIFE problems out there to deal with the stuff in a virtual world........

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.....!!!!!!! Oh wait if they did that they couldn't hide behind their online names!

SL's slogan is Yor World, Your Imagination, not narrow minded minority's world, NO Imagination.

I've asked Lias to show me where I was breaking any US laws, or the LL TOS, CS or Ageplay policy but allowing ANY av to be nude. and I included links to the protect act.. LL's clarification on ageplay...etc.

The ppl... .when they're wrong. .they just get wrong louder and louder..... in hopes that makes them right. I have facts and LAW on my side not morals and speculations.

It's funny all these so called moral majority activists who think they know what's best for us... are the ones who's leaders we see on the news fornadultery, embezzlelment etc.

Now the topic of this trea, what *I* find broadly offensice is the narrowminded who have to use their suppoused high morals to try to force everyone into their mold.

Carfeul. That describes a number of forum regulars

This sounds frighteningly like something I'm dealing with in RL.

I fly kites. Single line kites. Dual line sport kites that do tricks. Once in a while I try out a quad-line kite when I can, but I don't own one so I fly other people's.

I'm 40 years old. I do this for physical therapy and because I enjoy it.

I have had the police called to the parks where I fly kites more than once, because I'm there flying a kite. Why? Adults don't fly kites. Therefore the only reason why I am in a public park flying a kite, is that I'm a pedophile there to attract children for my sick, disgusting, twisted sexual perversions.

This particular attitude is absolutely out of touch with reality, and extremely offensive. Even the police call it what it is when they show up and find out what's going on, and it's a word which I guess I'm really not supposed to say in these forums because it might offend somebody. Let's just say it means a pile of waste left behind by a male cow.

The idea of a nude adult avatar dancing with the nude avatar of another adult who's chosen to make their avatar look like a child means there's pedophilia going on is no more accurate or logical than the RL assumptions being made in the above case.

When are we ever going to see sanity actually take root in the world, either the real world or the virtual one?

It's called "fun", Lias. I had it. It may have not been ~YOUR~ flavour of fun. But, I had a blast as a kid and I continue to be bubbly, hyper, and creative because of it. You can ask many of the people that know me. Yes, I do have my problems and my emotional downs, yet I'm usually often a hop, skip, and jump away from becoming the life of the party. (^_^)

It's called "fun". (^_^)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fun

Try having fun one day. You'll be a better person because of it. (^_^)y

I know that kind of event. (>_<

I read Manga... Lots and lots of Manga. And I have a favorite book store. I used to be able to get outta work before school's out and get my books in peace. Usually once a week, 3 to 8 books, working from a list of series that I'm reading. (^_^)

I had one day of drama. I got out of work late and the mall was packed. When I got to the Manga rack, the place was swimming with kids who's parents decided that the bookstore makes a great babysitter. (>_<

I'm look'n for my books, going down the list, probably had 3 by then when mall cops show up with a red-faced angry mother saying that I been eyeballing the kids in the store the whole time. (>_<

I have selective mutism... From the abruptness of the accusation, my frustration over having to find ways to "excuse" myself to get the books behind the kids, and whatever... I don't think I was able to respond with much more than crying a little. (>_<

Gladly, the people who work at the store know me well, came over and explained that I'm a regular and spend up to $60 a week off that rack. The mother and her kids were removed from the mall and the other kids were chased out as they weren't really there to buy anything. (=_=)

Of course, now, after that event I stopped going to the store and buy my Manga on Amazon. People aren't worth the drama. Really... Considering the time, energy, and stress required to start an uproar and panic; I'd like to know what would happen if these people ACTUALLY went out of their way to do something honestly productive. (T_T)

If I had the nerve, I would have approached this lady and asked her, "What would you do if someone showed you that I have a shorter criminal record than your kid's Sunday School teacher?" (>_<

I hate to be the one to point out the stupidly obvious (well, no, I don't *hate* it, per se, but meh):

Pedophiles' preferred targets of their misplaced amoury are CHILDREN. NOT adults PRETENDING TO BE CHILDREN, but REAL-LIFE CHILDREN. As such, the claims that there are so-called pedophiles in SL I find specious at best. While pedophiles MAY be in SL, the LAST thing they are probably doing is playing with some other ADULT in a kid avatar. EVEN IF they were, the entire affair is between CONSENTING ADULTS of legal age of majority. EVEN STILL, no SEX is going on because there is NO "sex" in SL. Pixel sex is, at best, soft-core porn, and very bad soft-core porn at that.

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good witchhunt and burning-at-the-stake kegger.

This whole thing smacks of bad political posturing the likes of which Mark Kirk and Jack Thompson would be envious of.

Only one thing I've yet seen has been badly offensive to me.
No 2 things.
No 3 things.
1. random men passing me photos of their man-bits in pre-cum state (I never asked, they ain't pretty, and I can get them in RL so why would I want a crappy photo anyways?)
2. some of the groups listed on profiles like "Rape this slut hard" and "cumslut schoolgirls".
3. a "nice little girl" I saw about 2 months ago - it sticks in my mind. tammie bekkers. She might be a 50yr old bald fat grubby man, but he/she/it is exercising that tag line to the full of "Your World, Your Imagination", coz before I saw her profile groups I'd never thought about having sex with dogs or members of my own family (still don't as a matter of fact). strange fantasies some people do have.

(I go back to quietly reading my library book at the back of the church now.)

I'm thinking more Tail Gunner Joe, myself.

And some MAY think the station I DJ for promoted naturism by the name, no it doesn't... just a coincidence.. it's named that for raw, uncut uncensored internet radio.

Myself and a few DJ's happen do do the shows in SL, but we're not a SL station, nor do we endorse SL. We're a NET station.

Do you have any idea what can of worms you have just opened up?

Leave out the entire discussion above concerning the behaviors that you find offensive. Totally leave that out.

You've just encouraged everyone out there with an ax to grind to:

1) Write a blog concerning any activity which they find disturbing and offensive, and to post accusations and pics.....scan up....the list is very long according to some people......

2) Give a platform for mentally disturbed people to accuse any enemy they have run across in SL....think about this for a minute or two.....

3) Threaten the anonymity of everyone participating in SL....

4) Encouraged people to take any actions that they disapprove of, from SL to RL.....and threaten RL legal action.....

#5 through #500.....this list goes on.

Do you have any idea what you are doing???

Of course she does, stirring up s**t, and instigating others to do her dirty work so her hands are clean. Let them take the fall for her moral beliefs.

They'd rather do this and hide behind a screen name than go after REAL problems in REAL life.

Was that his porn name?

Wow, I guess the next time I go to the park to fly kites or model rockets I'll make sure to borrow a decoy grandkid from the neighbors so I've got a good explanation for why I'm out there.

Joe McCarthy or Joe Abernathy?

Judging from the last page of comments we can now see why pedophilia is alive and well in Second Life; Statements like 'its fun, were just having a good time , it's my right to pretend to get nude with children'. Lovely.

Lol, Phil, I have yet to see a lawsuit over a negative blog about an avatar - your talking nonsense.

I do find it amazing that there was posted information that ASCIIrider was a member of two pedophile groups in Second Life that Linden Lab shut down. He had invited everyone from one shut down group into his group. But the crew that just posted obviously sees nothing wrong with salvaging the remains of a online pedophile group and re-locating them so they can hide behind a nude beach scenario and continue their activities.

This is another case of SLers not willing to police themselves so outside parties have to step in and do it for them. So continue to circle the wagons around your pedophile friends. Such loyalty is hard to come by.

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