Broadly offending content ~ what is it for *you*?

Hey! you compared me to Forrest Gump? Forrest was a pretty likable guy, always came out on top and always did the right thing. Thanks Argent

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I don't and will never get the adult/child sexual ageplay that existed here. I don't see that in any way shape or form as being the same as asking your partner to dress up as a cheerleader or schoolgirl, physically she still looks like an adult.

However saying that any image of a naked av equals paedophillia is the sort of nonsense that lead to a newscaster in the UK having to explain why she took a photo of her daughter in the bath. I can't remember who the newsreader was right now.

Exactly. its a naturalist beach exactly like the one in San Fran - home of Linden Labs, and its ridiculous. If any childhood nudity = pedo, then every parent would be arrested.

And thats even -if- it was a rl child. SL is 18+, so its adults reliving childhood in a less restricted, more open manner.

I don't want to see someone in a child av in sexual ageplay, but whats going on here is perfectly sterile and safe.

Even reiterating that the "party" here is virtual, as are the children and the naked pixels, nonetheless I don't disagree that many people find that disturbing. For that matter, many people find my sexual orientation disturbing. There's nothing noble about targeting a group to be excluded, but it's a business and there's also nothing in RL to protect this particular group, so they're banned and so it goes.

But I daresay it would be equally wrong to call the Oatmeal fences "the Holocaust" as it is to call sexual ageplay "pedophilia." Both such utterances would be pretty offensive, in fact.

Nobody should confuse taking offense at mismatched toon nudity with doing anything to curb pedophilia. It is at best irrelevant, and quite possibly a damaging distraction.

You forgot to mention doctors. .they see nude children al lthe time AND touch them.

If th Gteam didn't see agaplay and just nudists having harmless fun, and well nothing on my beach has beenchanged.... no warnings to "behave" issued... it's Lias wit hthe problem

Sadly, I don't think she will change, but I will tolerate her opinion (even fight for her right to say it) as long as she is not slandering, harassing or libelling.

If she were to say 'I feel ageplay contributes to pedophilia' then I would be fine with her holding that opinion. Its the rest of what shes doing that bothers me.

Perhaps your confused. This is about dancing naked with naked children - or pretending to do so. These arent children on a family outing - these are random -unaccompanied minors getting nude to hang out with adults (virtually). It is a disturbing concept - especially since the person running said facility has been a member of two groups cited by Linden Lab for 'crossing the line' when it comes to depiting children in Second Life. And he is inviting these same members to his group where he invites child avatars.

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No.

If my doctor stripped nude to 'touch' my child - his next job would be making license plates.

Ah ASCIIrider I posted several pages ago I was dropping it - and we had a two hour conversation last night. But people do not want to drop it - so on and on it goes. Your choice.

But remember there were twp ARs at your beach just last night because of an nude adult avatar propoitioning a nude child avatar - and do not forget that member of yours standing nude on the beach with a gag ball in her mouth. You say you cannot control what is happening when your not there. You say you cannot check out the profile of every member. And then I say you have created a atmosphere that attracts pedophiles and you are not responsible enough to make sure it does not occur. Therefore, you need to remove the naked child avatars - since you claim you have no positive control.

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These are consenting adults at a keyboard, having a fantasy, they are not minors.

Lias, I hope you have a sexuality or love or some form of affection in your life....

What if your sexuality was called some of the worst things on earth and you knew it wasn't. What if you were threatened and insulted for it.

That's what you do to people you don't approve of, even when they try to explain to you that your wrong about them.

I hope you think about this, you claim to be doing all this from care, yet all you have done is cause a massive stress and it turns out, over nothing but your own offense.

You're fixated o nthe dancing... upppp I'm sorry but people using a dance machine to dance in sync. You keep treating it like they're bumping and grinding! when tye're just clicking a danve machine and using the dances in it... OMG! SL should shut down now.

and for the last time GET THIS THROUG YOUR THICK SKULL! LL did NOT close the places OR the groups. BOTH voluntarily ended their places. and both closed the groups themselves.. no wait one still exsists as a group, just not a place. Boith former owners are still in SL. And as for crossing the line.. LL said possible.

Last part you say I invite these people.... ummmmm I invite people to a group that had open enrollment and their friens TP them in....

GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!. Quit dealing in your fantasy worlds where the things get twisted into what you want them to be..... There's a nice suite open at Hotel Reality..I suggest you check in soon.

According to that logic - banning child pornography does nothing to curb pedophilia.

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No, your fixated on the dancing.
You told me a Linden shut one down without discussion after he recived the Abuse Reports. I am only going by your words. And well he should have.
Again, what you told me last night. You invited them into your group.

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If they were RL young children it wouldn't be any less disturbing if they were clothed. You're expected to watch your kids on a beach whether it's a nude beach or not. These quote-kids-unquote can't drown, sunburn, or drop their ice cream cones in the sand.

And this segues us back to the OPs question: 'What is broadly offensive to you': And I replied people using avatars to get nude and interact with nude children.

Its all about perceptions. The Virtual Concentration Camp was perceived as broadly offensive. Thus, it was removed. You can wiki until the cows come home. If enough people are Broadly offended with your interaction with naked child avatars - then you will need to deal with some repercussions - From SL - from residents and perhaps from some authorities. That is just the way it is.

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Perhaps you are confused, and thinkg harassment and slander are alright. They aren't.

I know I'm not confused.

For instance, I'm muting you for your slander and other offenses, or at least not speaking to you. When you can pull yourself out of your insular little shell and actually use common sense and think openmindedly, we will speak again.

Of course, thats if you're not too busy making license plates or protesting playgrounds and Chuck E Cheese because they have the potential to lure -actual- pedophiles.

True.. the only thing to curb all pedophilia is to kill all the children. No one under 21 left alive. There, no more pedophilia.

It's funny and very sad you assume people defending child avs are "into" them... I have them as a limit personally. Also rape fantasies another thing you, Leedoof & Rock have attacked are actually a no go zone of mine.

I came to the defence of Immy and Asic here, not out of a love for their fetish, but out of a horror at your slanderous and out of control attack. On this thread you have misinterpreted and/or misrepresented peoples words. It's very dangerous when you're accusing people of serious sex crimes. You've threatened to ruin their lives over a unproven and as it turns out, falsr accusation all on a computer game.

Once again I suggest you take a good long look at your own blindspots and motivations. Is it kids you care about? Or victims of rape or pedo?

I know if you came near any friends of mine with problems I'd warn them off quick smart. I'm probably not alone in this either.

Can you imagine anyone trusting for their child in your care after this hysteria?

Uh, but banning child pornography does do nothing to curb pedophilia.

Sigh.

I hereby declare my own thread as a fail, though people generally did stay serious.



What I was hoping for:

<list of stuff people didn't like as individuals>

and, optionally,

<list of stuff people don't really mind, as individuals>

...and from that, learn stuff about what truly offended most people and what didn't.

Maybe even discuss it in another thread.

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What I didn't hope for: acrimonious discussion about the minutiae of hypothetical ageplaying naturists and so forth.

Pep, you were right. Ah well.

I was going to sign off with a recognised classic Michelangelo painting. But now I think the scenes of torture, nudity and cherubs would just stoke the debate further.

Onward we go into this brave new online age, and I shall suggest a term to describe it: NeoPuritanism.

'Fetish' and nude child avatar in the same thought - not good at all. And that's the point
The accusation was that there was pedophilles at his beach - and that was reported 3 times last night - he admitted it happens there - where is the slander? The only way his RL gets ruined is if he continues to 'out' himself so he can defend his right to frolic with nude child avatars.
I don't babysit.

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Exhibit - A: Child-like avatar dancing with an adult avatar... IN A GAGE!!!! (O_O)



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Of course... You'd have to ban the Linden in the cage with her as well. =^-^=

Uhuh... huhuhuh... uhuh... You said "stroke". =^-^=

Well,it was setup to fail. Stoke the fires of intolerance until it blazed out of control. Well done indeed.

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No. It was set up for proper response and feedback. The intolerance came a few pages in. (=_=)