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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
12-14-2004 21:24
Christmas Island has been
taken down the land was sold, and my account is cancelled;

Because the
following ppl took what little
christmas spirt I had left this
year.

Antagonistic Protagonist
Lordfly Digeridoo,
Eggy Lippmann
Sensual Casanova
Jauani Wu
Chosen Few
Juro Kothari
Anshe Chung
Blue Burke
pandastrong Fairplay
Jacqueline Richelie
...

YOUR RIGHT THERE IS NO
PLACE FOR PPL WHO ARE
NOT JUST HERE TO MAKE
MONEY OR SCREW OTHER
PPL OUT OF THEIR MONEY

YOU SUCK THE FUN OUT OF
SL FOR EVERYONE

I was attacked in all of these forums today and I have had enough! LL just keep looking the other way these ppl are ruining your game.

general forum
land and economy forum
off topic
shopping topic

good bye!
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 21:30
What? Girl, you come hang out with me. I'll show you how to handle them. I'll make a cute little cottage just for you in Neualtenburg. :D

~Ulrika~
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Moopf Murray
Moopfmerising
Join date: 7 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,448
12-14-2004 21:32
Oh please Catherine, not again.
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
12-14-2004 21:33
cancelled account. so ((edited))
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Moopf Murray
Moopfmerising
Join date: 7 Jan 2004
Posts: 2,448
12-14-2004 21:34
From: Catherine Cotton
cancelled account. so screw you moopf


And a Merry Christmas to you and yours as well.
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TinaStar Dawn
Registered User
Join date: 23 Dec 2003
Posts: 249
12-14-2004 21:38
I'm sorry you didn't find happiness here Catherine. Good luck and best wishes on whatever you decide to do next. I really hope you do have a very merry Christmas and start off with a happy and fulfilled new year. Good bye.
Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
12-14-2004 21:44
From: Catherine Cotton
cancelled account. so screw you moopf

Well, that answers the "Do people still have forum access if their account is cancelled?" question. /smarmytone

Catherine... perhaps a break would do you good. You have a lot to say in the forums, and like me, you're passionate about SL being a creative place.

We all have different views of what SL will become, and LL is determined to make it the Metaverse. What does that mean? It means the Internet, where lots and lots of money is made. Yes, people are interested in making money. It's not wrong in itself, though it is wrong when it's all-consuming.

It's an aspect of people all over the world, by the simple fact that life is not fair. No matter where you may turn, you will find it.

SL, however, is THE most creative environment and community I have ever found. (I'm privvy to the NYC art scene, too, so that statement means something.) Fly around a bit. You see endless builds by people who, by and large, have no formal training in computer graphics. And, for the people who do, there are hundreds of terrific builds and items.

There are a number of us interested in forwarding creativity and not having to make oodles of money. That alone is better than the real world usually is.

Hear this from someone who doesn't particularly like it when you snipe at him, but cares enough about the spirit of creativity to speak out.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 21:44
I'm not just here to make money! I'm here to promote liberty, equality, and fraternity. Stick around and join me.

~Ulrika~
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
12-14-2004 21:53
Cya in a couple months. :)

LF
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 22:00
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
Cya in a couple months. :)

LF
I hate replies like this.

You won't even allow her to own her own decision to leave. Is someone allowed to make their own decisions without your permission?

~Ulrika~
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Prokofy Neva
Virtualtor
Join date: 28 Sep 2004
Posts: 3,698
Alt
12-14-2004 22:03
The person who bought this island for $150,000 is Keke Levy, in Eutopia, the same land-holding group as Catherine Cotton.

Keke has not had a very illustrious career in SL, it seems, with only a few points given for her building skills since she joined in August. She doesn't seem to have any interests or picks...except for the Christmas Island itself....

Hmmm....

You can get so busy in SL and never get out!
Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
12-14-2004 22:04
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I hate replies like this.

You won't even allow her to own her own decision to leave. Is someone allowed to make their own decisions without your permission?

~Ulrika~


The odds are good, is all I'm saying.

She's done this before. Twice or three times, I believe.

My suspension of disbelief is muted, to say the least. :)

Do a bit of investigation as to who she sold the land too, as well.

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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,418
12-14-2004 22:11
Cat,

You and I have had many disagreements in our time on the forums. You made the decsion to leave, so naming (and in turn blaming) the people for sucking out the last of your holiday spirit was a low-blow. As righteous as you can get, you didn't think for a minute that someone wouldn't call you on it, would you?

My disagreement with you was never that there wasn't a place for the creative type to exist in SL, but that there is room for EVERYONE, a thought that for some reason eluded you. Your argument of money=bad is just as one sided as creativity=bad. They both have thier place in SL, like it or not, but you couldn't see that, could you? I won't apologize for my comments, because I believe that making money and making beautiful things complement each other and are necessary for an environment like SL to succeed.

I'm sorry to hear you've decided to leave SL and hope in your new ventures you find what you're looking for.

Remember Cat, a tree that does not bend with the wind will break.
Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
12-14-2004 22:12
From: Prokofy Neva
The person who bought this island for $150,000 is Keke Levy, in Eutopia, the same land-holding group as Catherine Cotton.

Keke has not had a very illustrious career in SL, it seems, with only a few points given for her building skills since she joined in August. She doesn't seem to have any interests or picks...except for the Christmas Island itself....

Hmmm....

You can get so busy in SL and never get out!


Keke is not my alt but I did get her to join SL and I did teach her to build. She was kind enough to help me get out of SL when I wanted. I have never cancelled my account before but I did today truth be told Anne Bancroft was my alt and that account was also cancelled.

Now just please let me be.
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 22:17
From: Lordfly Digeridoo
She's done this before. Twice or three times, I believe.

My suspension of disbelief is muted, to say the least. :)

Do a bit of investigation as to who she sold the land too, as well.
This does not invalidate the depth of emotion that she feels. Further, her probability of return is not related to the responsibility you have for your actions. If you did something to precipitate this you need to publicly address it and resolve it.

I don't want to see cyclic abuse in these forums, where people expect their victims to get over it and return, only to be subjected again to the same abuse.

~Ulrika~
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Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 22:21
From: Juro Kothari
I won't apologize for my comments, because I believe that making money and making beautiful things complement each other and are necessary for an environment like SL to succeed.
This is an error. It is possible to state things which a undeniably factual in a way that can hurt people.

You should say instead that you will stand by your comments as something you believe in but apologize if they were presented in such a way that was upsetting.

~Ulrika~
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Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,418
12-14-2004 22:27
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
This is an error. It is possible to state things which a undeniably factual in a way that can hurt people.

I agree, sometimes stating things makes people upset, as we've seen.

From: Ulrika Zugzwang

You should say instead that you will stand by your comments as something you believe in but apologize if they were presented in such a way that was upsetting.

I'm sorry, but I disagree. Cat and I are both passionate about our stands and as she would never apologize for her belief, niether would I.

I am sorry that she wasn't able to understand that money and creativity are not exclusive. I'm sorry because as a community, we've lost a great creator.
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 22:34
From: Juro Kothari
I am sorry that she wasn't able to understand that money and creativity are not exclusive. I'm sorry because as a community, we've lost a great creator.
I understand and I agree with you. Personally, I find that monetary rewards help my creativity.

Yet, I think a few apologies is a small price to pay to get back a great creator. How about you?

~Ulrika~
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Hiro Pendragon
bye bye f0rums!
Join date: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 5,905
12-14-2004 22:35
From: Juro Kothari
I'm sorry, but I disagree.

Was this an ironic joke or an obvious oversight? ;)
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
12-14-2004 22:36
From: Catherine Cotton
Christmas Island has been
taken down the land was sold, and my account is cancelled;

Because the
following ppl took what little
christmas spirt I had left this
year.

Antagonistic Protagonist
Lordfly Digeridoo,
Eggy Lippmann
Sensual Casanova
Jauani Wu
Chosen Few
Juro Kothari
Anshe Chung
Blue Burke
pandastrong Fairplay
Jacqueline Richelie
...

YOUR RIGHT THERE IS NO
PLACE FOR PPL WHO ARE
NOT JUST HERE TO MAKE
MONEY OR SCREW OTHER
PPL OUT OF THEIR MONEY

YOU SUCK THE FUN OUT OF
SL FOR EVERYONE

I was attacked in all of these forums today and I have had enough! LL just keep looking the other way these ppl are ruining your game.

general forum
land and economy forum
off topic
shopping topic

good bye!



Rofl hilarious...
Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,835
12-14-2004 22:37
catherine,
i will not take responsibility for your decision. you have shown complete contempt on the forum to anyone who does not share your own values for how to play SL. the response anyone has given to your belligerence is something you have invited upon yourself by baselessly attacking the activities of others in a public forum and at times insinuating conspiracy, collusion, ill intent, or immorality where there was none.
Land Angels Group
Buying and Selling Land
Stfu about money

and lastly, an unprovoked flaming towards me in a thread about a possibiles economic abuse taking place with alt accounts.
gaming alt accounts!

i can understand your desire to escape the stigma that is now attached to your account. i hope in your next SL incarnation, you will be so kind as to respect others choice to apporach SL differently than yourself.

good luck to you. sincerely,

jauani
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Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
12-14-2004 22:38
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
I'm not just here to make money! I'm here to promote liberty, equality, and fraternity. Stick around and join me.

~Ulrika~


I hate replies like this.

You won't even allow her to own her own decision to leave. Is someone allowed to make their own decisions without your permission?

Sensual
Juro Kothari
Like a dog on a bone
Join date: 4 Sep 2003
Posts: 4,418
12-14-2004 22:41
From: Ulrika Zugzwang
Yet, I think a few apologies is a small price to pay to get back a great creator. How about you?


Over the many arguments I've had with Cat on various topics, I have always apologized when I was proven wrong, or on the occassion I gave a harsh tongue lashing.

During the latest threads, I've been been mindful of keeping my tongue lashings to a minimum, and actually posted *less* than I would have if it would've been anyone else.

Many times in the past, I've swallowed the pride and extended the hand in a good gesture, but one can only do that so many times.
Sensual Casanova
Spoiled Brat
Join date: 28 Feb 2004
Posts: 4,807
12-14-2004 22:42
oh... and Goodbye Catherine, I hope your personality is better on KeKe! :D
Ulrika Zugzwang
Magnanimous in Victory
Join date: 10 Jun 2004
Posts: 6,382
12-14-2004 22:44
From: Sensual Casanova
I hate replies like this.

You won't even allow her to own her own decision to leave. Is someone allowed to make their own decisions without your permission?

Sensual
There's no need to attack me. I'm simply putting my neck out for someone who needs a little help right now. I don't get paid for this. I'm doing it because I think it's the right thing to do and I'd want someone to do it for me.

~Ulrika~
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