land angels group
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-27-2004 01:54
I was curious about all this talk about the land angels group. I was suprized to find that of the 14 members there are some land barons in that group. The members list is like a whos who of the SL forums. A lot of what I have read in the past few weeks now makes a lot of sence. Those who have been the most vocal and insulting tword anyone against anyone in this group. What can I say to this new information?
Not a damn thing.
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Catherine Cotton
Tis Elfin
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11-27-2004 02:00
PUBLIC INFORMATION
Group Members:
Anshe Chung Aura Lily Billy Madision Blue Burke Cristiano Midnight Deklax Fairplay illume Skalligrimson Jauani Wu Krashen Byrne Ladyvelvet Valentino ladyyve LaFollette Lensey Roark Schwanson Schlegel Ursa Falcone
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billy Madison
www.SLAuctions.com
Join date: 6 Jun 2004
Posts: 2,175
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11-27-2004 02:01
catherine i am in that group and i never bash you hun! and also.. alot of the people in that group are in there kinda like a guardian to make sure the founder isnt skimming off the top.
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Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-27-2004 02:03
Billy nope we have never had a bad word between us Yes the founder is none other than Anshe Chung. This explains way too much to me right now. Cat
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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11-27-2004 02:11
the land angel's goal is to create exponential growth of net worth until we own all of SL. we then plan to offer it to microsoft for stock equity.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 02:20
 Its all been BS. Shall we talk about the connection to the GOM via Zeppi Schlegel and La Cadre. Hmm who is a member of that group too? And looky here too; Neualtenburg group... That is realy odd land ppl are connected to the money which is connected to the push for government. Wow neat. I dont know if I should puke or laugh. Its all public knowledge. So I break 0 rules.
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billy Madison
www.SLAuctions.com
Join date: 6 Jun 2004
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11-27-2004 04:33
catherine, we have never had ill words before. And although I *USED* to sell land for a profit i not longer partake in this.. not because the market slumped but because it became too dog eat dog and *some* people will lie cheat and steal to sell there land. But i guess thats just bussiness. The land angels group from what i have seen is on the up and up i have given away a few 1024 meter plots out of it for exchange for plots that are similar to 90 degree mountainside (prim land) so i cant really say that its to get prime land because from what i have seen it stays in the pool of land to be given out.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 05:07
That maybe be the case for what you saw but when I see the same names in the same groups I have to take note. Especialy when the groups go on and on. Now I am not talking about things like Awaking Avatars.
Sl Business Club
Their Motto: "We are real entrepreneurs who see virtual reality as a new frontier and place of development. We have been successful in one way or another to create value and profit in cyberspace. For us, SecondLife is more than a game. It is an opportunity."
Same 3 members as in the land angels as in the Sl Business Club;
Anshe Chung Blue Burke Schwanson Schlegel
These ppl openly say " We have been successful in one way or another to create value and profit in cyberspace. For us, SecondLife is more than a game. It is an opportunity."
Yet everyone is expected to believe that they are being kind hearted souls who are just helping out the less fortunate.
Not unless they are making a profit, as stated by other players in these forums.
People are not as nieve as some like to think.
Billy this is not a reflection on you, only members of the same group you are in who are trying to play all sides of the field.
Shame shame shame on some members of land angels. The more I read the more I want to puke.
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,835
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11-27-2004 05:11
i see island land in Ross is for sale for twice what was paid. does that make the owner a land baron?
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 05:18
Troll What you are doing is against the TOS yet AGAIN. Puts that Troll on MUTE.
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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11-27-2004 05:20
good one! 
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 05:24
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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11-27-2004 08:00
Catherine, Since my name is listed twice here, I guess I am guilty. Of what, I am not sure, please explain to me what I have done wrong. Guilt by association? I see nothing wrong with the charter of either of the two mentioned groups.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
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11-27-2004 08:05
From: Catherine Cotton These ppl openly say " We have been successful in one way or another to create value and profit in cyberspace. For us, SecondLife is more than a game. It is an opportunity."
Yet everyone is expected to believe that they are being kind hearted souls who are just helping out the less fortunate.
Not unless they are making a profit, as stated by other players in these forums.
Because someone makes a profit, does that mean they can't do anything good? I MUST be missing something.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 08:32
In a perfect world I imagine you could. Its not a perfect world. Given your agreement with one charter its pretty self explinatory. Again ppl are not as nieve as some would like to think. Your the one who associated your self with both groups, and from the outside looking in it definatly raised an eyebrow of suspision.
If I was a democrate I could not be a republican. Guilt by association? Perhaps, Your the one who agreed to the charters.
Thats a damn shame, the past few weeks have been a real damn shame. SL may be a game but what part of all this heartache has been fun? None.
If you realy expect me to believe some prerehersed story about how someone can screw over a community one min. and help it the next, then you are sadly mistaken.
Lets be real about this those in all those same very powerful groups knew exactly what they were doing when they joined them.
Eyes wide open.
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,835
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11-27-2004 08:39
i agree completely! something must be done about player who buy land for 273 USD and then sell it three weeks later for 150k L$ = 600 USD. that markup exceeds 10% by ten fold! 
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Ryen Jade
This is a takeover!
Join date: 21 Jun 2003
Posts: 1,329
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11-27-2004 09:03
Heres an idea.
Linden labs, listening?
ok good!
Land can no longer be 'sold' by the player, you release the plot and it goes right back in linden labs pocket and back up for auction.
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Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
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11-27-2004 09:05
From: Jauani Wu i agree completely! something must be done about player who buy land for 273 USD and then sell it three weeks later for 150k L$ = 600 USD. that markup exceeds 10% by ten fold!  Are you seriously saying its ok for you but not for me to make a profit? People who live in glass houses shoudn't throw stones. Attention please according to this poster I am not allowed to do what he does and make a slight profit. I paid much more than that ask Anshe she lost the bid to me. I thought the land baron group would be happy to get their mits on it. but but if you divide it up into 45, 512 m2 plots you can still break even. Get real.
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Schwanson Schlegel
SL's Tokin' Villain
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,721
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11-27-2004 09:30
/me scratches head. I better drink some.....something and revisit this thread. I need to catch up with you guys.
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Anshe Chung
Business Girl
Join date: 22 Mar 2004
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11-27-2004 09:34
Catherine, I hope you have nice Thanksgiving weekend. Maybe you visit some friends and have nice feeling and good time. All the best to you. Take care 
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Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
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11-27-2004 09:40
Catherine, normally I would agree with the issues you are raising but the fact that you are indeed doing the same thing invalidates any of your complaints with land barons.
You were called on it. You chose to call Jauani a troll twice before actually admitting it. I don't understand your logic behind bashing the land barons and then going out and doing the same thing.
I hate drug dealers, but are you going to see me selling in an alley somewhere just because I can make a profit?
I'm not saying land baroning is on the same level as dealing drugs, just a moral analogy.
You cannot lash out against land barons and then turn around and do what they do, at a markup that even exceeds whay they usually use.
I wish I were in the financial situation to be a land baron. I doubt there are few people in this game that, separated from the drahma, in private wouldn't mind being a "land baron". I really wish one of the land barons would "open up their books" to let me see how it works and what kind of money they are really making, maybe one of the land barons should start a class or something. I'd pay if it was good solid info.
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
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11-27-2004 09:51
catherine, if this incident isn't enough, many of us were around for your "blow out" sale in grignano too 
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 09:52
From: Aaron Levy Catherine, normally I would agree with the issues you are raising but the fact that you are indeed doing the same thing invalidates any of your complaints with land barons.
You were called on it. You chose to call Jauani a troll twice before actually admitting it. I don't understand your logic behind bashing the land barons and then going out and doing the same thing.
I hate drug dealers, but are you going to see me selling in an alley somewhere just because I can make a profit?
I'm not saying land baroning is on the same level as dealing drugs, just a moral analogy.
You cannot lash out against land barons and then turn around and do what they do, at a markup that even exceeds whay they usually use.
I wish I were in the financial situation to be a land baron. I doubt there are few people in this game that, separated from the drahma, in private wouldn't mind being a "land baron". I really wish one of the land barons would "open up their books" to let me see how it works and what kind of money they are really making, maybe one of the land barons should start a class or something. I'd pay if it was good solid info. One plot of land does not a land baron make. Besides do you know how much US $ I paid for my land? No. Do you know if I am making a profit? No. Therefore your listening to heresay and not to fact. They are good at side tracking issues like this. Been there done that. I put my lot up for sale for my own reasons. Apples and Oranges. Selling one plot is not nearly the same. Now this has been an interesting side track to the discussion but is not the topic at hand. I have heard a lot of hype but these ppl dont have a leg to stand on. Cat
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Catherine Cotton
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11-27-2004 09:58
From: Jauani Wu catherine, if this incident isn't enough, many of us were around for your "blow out" sale in grignano too  Yet more heresay and rumor again. Realy did you also know that LF offerered me a certain amount for 2 city plots? No Did you know those city plots hold twice as many prims? No Were you privy to a private conversation between me and LF on the final selling price? Again No. Heresay, rumor, lie, take your pick. Again, side tracking the issues been there done that. Next.
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Aaron Levy
Medicated Lately?
Join date: 3 Jun 2004
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11-27-2004 09:58
Well, yeah, I do know how much you paid for it, it's not at all heresay. https://secondlife.com/auctions/auction-detail.php?id=0026195094
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