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Jauani Wu
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Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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11-16-2004 13:54
if you have 5 credit cards and so does your spouse, that's

10 CC x 5 avs/CC = 50 avs
50 avs at annual premium accounts = 50 x 72 USD = 3600 USD

initial referal L$ income = 1000 L$/av x 50 avs = 50 000 L$

bonus income for 150 rating points (50 avs rating each other) = 200 L$/wk
annual L$ income = (200+500) L$/av/wk x 50 avs x 52 wks =
500 x 52 x 50 = 1 820 000 L$

Available Land Baroning Land tier = (512 m2/av x 50 avs) x 110% = 28160
land tier savings = approx 125 USD /month * 12 months = 1500 USD.

safe estimate of land trading profits (excluding tier savings) = 20 000 L$/month * 12 months = 240 000 L$

Total L$ income = 50 000 L$ + 1 820 000 L$ + 250 000 L$ = 2 120 000 L$

2 120 000 L$ x 4.1 USD/1000L$ = 8692 USD

Total Earnings (including tier savings) = 8692 + 1500 - 3600 = 6592 USD

IRR = 6592 profit/3600 investment = 183 %

GOOD LUCK! :)
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Catherine Cotton
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11-16-2004 14:19
(Offensive language deleted.) I have read at least two posts like this today, odd behavior from someone gaming the system.
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feniks Stone
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11-16-2004 14:23
ugh math...


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Merwan Marker
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11-16-2004 14:26
yawn.....


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Tiger Crossing
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11-16-2004 15:10
Yeah... *I* sure don't want to have to juggle 50 accounts while baroning land for a year.

IDont01 Playfair
IDont02 Playfair
IDont03 Playfair
IDont04 Playfair
...

:)


(Appologies to any "IDont Playfair"s out there.)
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Jauani Wu
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11-16-2004 15:25
From: Catherine Cotton
I have read at least two posts like this today, odd behavior from someone gaming the system.

odd assertion from someone who has had no contact with me in world ever to know what the heck they are talking about.
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Jauani Wu
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11-16-2004 15:28
From: Tiger Crossing
Yeah... *I* sure don't want to have to juggle 50 accounts while baroning land for a year.

IDont01 Playfair
IDont02 Playfair
IDont03 Playfair
IDont04 Playfair
...

:)


(Appologies to any "IDont Playfair"s out there.)


from what i understand, you don't need to actually log in premium accounts every week to benefit from thier income. all the alts would have to be logged in two or three times ever. once to donate tier to the land group and to rez a cube. once to rate all the alts. and at the end of the year to give the main account all the annual L$ earnings.
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Vuuduu Hoodoo
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Join date: 16 Nov 2004
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11-16-2004 15:28
From: Jauani Wu
odd assertion from someone who has had no contact with me in world ever to know what the heck they are talking about.


If anyone is in the market for an alt I'm available.

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blaze Spinnaker
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11-16-2004 15:44
I think Ju is simply performing an interesting theoretical exercise. It is the economy forum, after all..

If people come in here to post STFU about stuff like this, well .. geez!
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Surina Skallagrimson
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11-16-2004 17:33
From: Jauani Wu

bonus income for 150 rating points (50 avs rating each other) = 200 L$/wk
annual L$ income = (200+500) L$/av/wk x 50 avs x 52 wks =
500 x 52 x 50 = 1 820 000 L$



This part doesn't work... as the user numbers increase during the year, your position on the ratings board drops and you get less bonus. 200 down to 75 then nothing at all.

A 150 rating (50 in each catagory) wouldn't even start you at a 200 bonus by todays values.
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Jauani Wu
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11-16-2004 17:39
i have around 500 rating and i get almost 500 L$ for my ratings every week.

ok let's say it's 100 L$/week, then that is a reduction of 260 000 L$, or 1079 USD.
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Catherine Cotton
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11-16-2004 19:34
Quote:
Originally Posted by Catherine Cotton
I have read at least two posts like this today, odd behavior from someone gaming the system.


and quote from Jauani
odd assertion from someone who has hand no contact with me in world ever to know what the heck they are talking about.
end quotes.



I find it ironic that you who has been gaming the system at least threw being a land baron, now you are giving complete instructions to ppl on how to also game the system.
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Trifen Fairplay
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Join date: 19 Jul 2004
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11-16-2004 20:07
um gaming the system,.. land "barroning" is actually know as land trading. For some reason some people don't understand the concept. It's not gaming the system, the system is set up to allow this. Get of the land angels' cases'. Also this is the economics forum I don't want to see any flaming over numbers, get a life! try this method of logic, over ignorance.

The idea sounds good in theory, but the ratings amount would be less, the land tier you gain is not even half a sim, half a sim is ~100$/month for a year is ~$1,200, which sure beats $3,600, also you can go one day to every party and rate your booty off, and you can get quite the ratings without alts. You never have to log in as alts nor feed CC numbers to LL. This seems simpler, cheaper, and less likely to irritate that spousal unit.
Jauani Wu
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Join date: 7 Apr 2003
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11-16-2004 20:12
ex:
From: someone
odd behavior from someone gaming the system.


good luck mounting a proper legal case against me for serious amounts of cash for posting "libel" against your anonymous avatar personality. because i'm sure you can claim untold amounts of RL damages for which you must be compensated for volantarily starting a flame war on a private forum.

funnier than claiming to have a case against me would be trying to actually receive paymet of a single penny off a student who is over 50 k in debt! haha haha haha. americans are so funny with their "i'm going to sue you!"
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Alan Palmerstone
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Join date: 4 Jun 2004
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11-16-2004 20:14
To really do this you have to go to an awful lot of trouble:

get 5 credit cards (ok, not so bad, just reply to all the offers you get in the mail) - 1 hour to fill out the applications and mail
get married (easy, yet could potentially wipe out half your profits if you get caught in one of Blake's love hotels) -One minute, but the maintenance time can be a bitch.
get 5 more credit cards (again, just reply to the offers you normally throw away, but you will also have to convince the spouse that this is not just another one of your crazy schemes)- Another hour
set up 50 accounts (This is really tedious, but say 5 hours due to bathroom breaks, etc.)
Log in to each, add them to group and rate all the others (1 hour for each one)
When you factor in the labor, the stipend will still give you a profit, but not so much to make this worthwhile, unless you are paying temp workers to do your data entry. You will need to be a land baron, as you indicated.

This requires a lot more work and a lot more capital (some lindens, but mostly $US). If you are a baron already, this just sounds like how it probably works now for some of them.
Trifen Fairplay
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11-16-2004 20:16
Jauani Wu don't sweat it, she is intitles her opinion even if we don't agree. :rolleyes:
Ryen Jade
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11-16-2004 20:19
Ok, this is getting harsh. Im requesting a linden to close this thread before it goes any father.
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Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
Trifen Fairplay
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11-16-2004 20:23
your one to talk about harsh, you flame anshe and put a pic of a door,.. don't talk :cool:
Trifen Fairplay
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11-16-2004 20:25
i love you all :P
Ryen Jade
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11-16-2004 20:26
From: Trifen Fairplay
your one to talk about harsh, you flame anshe and put a pic of a door,.. don't talk :cool:


But anshe deserves it :cool:
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From: Korg Stygian
Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
Catherine Cotton
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Join date: 2 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,001
11-16-2004 20:28
From: Jauani Wu
catherine, seriously, i have no idea about your medical condition.

if you are going to pick on me with with disparaging remarks of - (edited for offensive language) and post libel about me "gaming the game", then don't turn around and play the wounded victim when i reply with similar sillyness

ex:


good luck mounting a proper legal case against me for serious amounts of cash for posting "libel" against your anonymous avatar personality. because i'm sure you can claim untold amounts of RL damages for which you must be compensated for volantarily starting a flame war on a private forum.

funnier than claiming to have a case against me would be trying to actually receive paymet of a single penny off a student who is over 50 k in debt! haha haha haha. americans are so funny with their "i'm going to sue you!"



Fine Jauani Wu lets play this little game then shall we...

(edited for offensive language)

There the truth is out and I feel so much better now.

Hugs you Jauani and good like on your high school math quiz this week honey :)
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Ryen Jade
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11-16-2004 20:29
From: Catherine Cotton
14 queens wants sex



I think I love you :D

two words

OH SNAP!
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From: Korg Stygian
Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
MrsJakal Suavage
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Join date: 18 Jul 2004
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11-16-2004 20:30
ROFL, no offense Juani but that was hilarious :p
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Catherine Cotton
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11-16-2004 20:43
From: Trifen Fairplay
um gaming the system,.. land "barroning" is actually know as land trading. For some reason some people don't understand the concept. It's not gaming the system, the system is set up to allow this. Get of the land angels' cases'. Also this is the economics forum I don't want to see any flaming over numbers, get a life! try this method of logic, over ignorance.

The idea sounds good in theory, but the ratings amount would be less, the land tier you gain is not even half a sim, half a sim is ~100$/month for a year is ~$1,200, which sure beats $3,600, also you can go one day to every party and rate your booty off, and you can get quite the ratings without alts. You never have to log in as alts nor feed CC numbers to LL. This seems simpler, cheaper, and less likely to irritate that spousal unit.



look i know your his new boy toy its kewl ya gotta come to the rescue no hard feelings.

I used to be his bitch too :) love you!

hugz
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Ryen Jade
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11-16-2004 20:45
Now catherine is my bitch! :D
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From: Korg Stygian
Between you, Ryen the twerp and Ardith, there's little to change my opinion here.. rather you have reinforced it each in your own ways


IM A TWERP, IM A TWERP! :D

Whats a twerp? :confused:
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