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snip...Three - Since I am certain I will not get answers, what is the need for silence?snip...

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If you know you will not get any answers, what was the point of all the public questions? Do you realize how antithetical that is? My god. Don't you people think before posting?

Haney - since you're making a presence in this thread, I would like to ask you a few questions.

One - Why was Disco Duck tempbanned? He was minding his own business and not a part of the event at all. He was working on a project on our land and all of a sudden, wow, banned.

Two - When will Linden Labs inprove its customer service procedures? As I've said before, I can't recommend this game to anyone given its current state - I've already paid my entrance fee, but if I had experienced this level of ineptitude on the part of the administration before my trial was up, rest assured, I would be $9.95 richer. At the least, you can be assured that I'll not become a recurring paid member - nor will I recommend that anybody else play this game beyond the free trial.

Three - Since I am certain I will not get answers, what is the need for silence? Why are the administrators so intent on hiding behing 'violating community standards' without bothering to explain what those standards are? Can you honestly explain to me why someone should pay at least $9.95 to play this game, when they can be banned - temporarily or otherwise - for rules that they are not allowed to know fully? Before you hide behind 'Contact us if you need a judgement call', consider this: Lindens aren't around 24/7. Also, again, Disco Duck. Should he have asked for a judgement call before putting on his purple pants? Please do us all a favor and let us know what colors are verboten; I don't wish to 'violate community standards' with the wrong shade of fuschia.

My god. Don't you people think before posting?

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Well the rules are in the community standards page http://secondlife.com/comstandards.php as well as one of the things you agree to when you make an account. Its also on the forums. They are by no means hiding it.

- He was tempbanned based only on his group affiliation, and this is considered correct by the administrators.

Perhaps then you'd like to explain the case of Disco Duck. He's standing around, minding his own business, and boom, tempban. There has been no communication from the Lindens at all regarding this disturbing event, not even an 'oops, we made a mistake'. Of the various possibilities, Occam's Razor (look it up) indicates that the most likely reason for his tempban was simply his group affiliation. If this is indeed the case, one of two things is true:

- He was tempbanned based only on his group affiliation, and this is considered correct by the administrators.

- He was tempbanned based only on his group affiliation, and this was a mistake.

If it's the first, the logical next step is that nobody should dare to join a group, because the actions of one or more members of the group can result in punishments for other members of the group not involved in those actions. If it's the second, the logical next step is that the administrators owe Disco Duck a public apology. If it's neither, the administrators owe us all an explanation, if only to set to rest the fears many people have of unjust actions on the part of the administrators.

Whichever it is, explanations need to be made. If the administration allows this to go unanswered, all that will accomplish is more and more people will develop theories, and morale and confidence in the game will both plummet, resulting in a less enjoyable game experience for everyone - which will, in time, result in a reduced playerbase, which will result in less paid players - see where I'm going here?

If there are problems in the way things are handled, don't let them fester, drag them out into the light where they can be fixed.

If you had ever been in or had contact with a street gang you might realize that just because some of the gang do not actually hurt anyone that it is a gang and that the proper action is to treat them as a gang. The fact is that the ones that do take the action would not if they were by themselves, it is the rest of the gang that allows them to take action. Further, one must wonder why one would join a gang -- er -- group which is a griefer group--unless they wanted to be part of "it".

If you had ever been in or had contact with a street gang you might realize that just because some of the gang do not actually hurt anyone that it is a gang and that the proper action is to treat them as a gang. The fact is that the ones that do take the action would not if they were by themselves, it is the rest of the gang that allows them to take action. Further, one must wonder why one would join a gang -- er -- group which is a griefer group--unless they wanted to be part of "it".

I was replying to your comment about how we don't know the rules of the game cause they don't tell us. I pointed out where those rules were. If I know what happened, then I would comment further. Asking me why he was banned is dumb, because I have no idea what happened, nor do I care.

I was considering buying a forum membership and joining the group myself, so that I could participate in their entertaining demonstrations. That doesn't mean that I have any interest in griefing anyone.

And my point was that you are only partially correct: They do tell us the basic rules, but they are very very mysterious about what is considered 'violating community standards'.

I was replying to your comment about how we don't know the rules of the game cause they don't tell us. I pointed out where those rules were. If I know what happened, then I would comment further. Asking me why he was banned is dumb, because I have no idea what happened, nor do I care.

I was considering buying a forum membership and joining the group myself, so that I could participate in their entertaining demonstrations. That doesn't mean that I have any interest in griefing anyone.

W-Hat is not a griefer group.

Well its all in the rules they set. I admit they need to send a complete report on what you did wrong before they punish you for what ever.

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If you know you will not get any answers, what was the point of all the public questions? Do you realize how antithetical that is? My god. Don't you people think before posting?

By whose definition? By your definition or by the definition of those who were not happy with what you did? It is the second that counts.

The gut is will the activity be on someone else's land and be something the land owner will not want on his land? If not sure ask the land owner--simple really. Or do it on your land.

In case it wasn't mentioned before, the 'violating community standards' took place on my groups land in Baku according to the email I received.

Here is the current problem with the game, as far as I see it: Several days ago, I had an abuse report filed against me, I have done nothing wrong in the game as far as I know, followed every rule, didn't do anything offensive. Just seconds after I recieved the email indicating to me that an abuse report was filed against me, I sent an email to whoever it was I was supposed to send the email to according to the email I recieved. Its been 2, maybe 3 days now, and I haven't recieved a response yet. I still don't know what I did wrong, and I still don't know why I was banned for an hour completely out of nowhere. I asked a few Lindens in game if they had any idea why I might have been suspended temporarilly, they said they didn't have access to the abuse reports. Oh.. ok, so I talked to live help - they are volunteers I understand, they too do not have access to the abuse reports. Oh.. ok. So, its been 3 days now, I have done everything that I can possibly think of to find out what exactly I did wrong, and have come to the conclusion its because either
A) I am a member of W-Hat and happened to be logged on when a few other members of W-Hat decided to stage an absolutely, ridiculously non-offensive, non-threatening and hilarious action. Mind you, I was in a different sim, thousands of meters away from them when this happened, and I had just started my account not a day before.
or B) I had on purple pants at the time.

Now, according to wonderfully helpful email I recieved, I "Violated community standards" and since neither A, nor B, involve me violating community standards, (unless the community standards do not allow for purple pants, which seems plausible) I am having an incredibly hard time figuring out just how, exactly, each instance of abuse is really investigated. Because according to the email I recieved, server logs were checked, and an investigation was launched over an abuse report filed by someone. Seeing as I started the account, as I stated earlier just a day prior to the event, and I had logged a total of maybe 4 hours since starting the account, I call shenanigans.
Im not asking for abuse reports to be public, I understand that could be a problem, but given that supposedly each abuse report is investigated with checks to server logs and whatnot, the LEAST that Linden Labs could do is tell someone what they did wrong. "Violating community standards" doesn't tell me anything. And 3 days to recieve a reply? What if I was banned for 3 days? If i was banned for 3 days and proved that I had done nothing wrong, would I be credited for the 3 days I was unable to play the game I had payed for? (Assuming of course I was on a premium account [not happening any time soon if my first week is any indication of how Linden Labs acts])
So please, Linden Labs, anyone who has any pull in this game, it would be so amazingly helpful if you would please actually investigate things, and once you do, actually inform someone what they did wrong. It would be ever so helpful.

If that doesn't explain it well enough for you, then I will give you every single gory detail of what led to my 1 hour suspension: I logged on, started scripting, scripted for an hour, receieved a one hour ban. Thats it. Not sure how to explain it any simpler.

First, there's a fine line between a "demonstration" and a "griefing," which clearly this group cannot see, and bounces between the two with careless ease. Next, to equate racism with a prejudice against your group is rediculous. After all, there are MILLIONS of exceptions to stereotype rules regarding black persons. On the other hand, name one indisputably GOOD thing the goons have done for Second Life that should make us put our pinkies to our lip and go, "Hm, maybe I shouldn't be so quick to judge."

Or, is your only representation these, ahem, "demonstrations"?