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Silly Fool
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12-25-2004 01:41
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Anne Vindaloo
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12-25-2004 01:41
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Anne Vindaloo
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12-25-2004 01:45
i wouldnt want to tempt you into a tos violation now... i think youve had enough for one week ***edited to add reply to ryens additional edit and all you had to do was wait a week kthxbye Actually, its only 5 days!But wow! Arent you just the hateful bitch! FILL YOUR HEART WITH ANGST! |
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Lisse Livingston
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Join date: 16 May 2004
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12-25-2004 02:15
Ryen is a relatively new member of W-Hat and his views should not be taken to be representative of the rest of the membership. Neither of W-Hat's officers have posted to this thread, and until that happens this is not a conversation about what W-Hat is or is not, no matter what Ryen or anybody else says. I wish you people would be smart enough to separate the actions and attitudes of a small group of people from those of a much larger group. This game would be a hell of a lot less irritating then. So if what I glean of W-Hat from this thread is incorrect, then could you perhaps explain to me in a PM what it is? I'd love to know, having been a neighbor for so long, and totally unaware that it was connected to anything outside of SL. I am only going on what I read in this thread, having no other information. And if being W-Hat members is irrelevent to what happened that night, why is it even being raised in this thread? *color me confused* _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
Join date: 18 Jun 2003
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12-25-2004 10:18
Hay guy that was a good idea to post without reading the thread. Or without fully comprehending the situation. As for devlins post - ![]() OH YEAH! ![]() _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
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Join date: 18 Jun 2003
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12-25-2004 10:23
Actually tren, this is my friends account. I am Ryen Jade, my game consists mostly of building, scripting, 2d design, and animation. I also enjoy sharing items with my friends as well as chatting with them. I am not in SL for the money, since every one of my objects is priced 100L$ or lower. Also tren, may want to do some research into who you are talking about, since I have been in world for over a year and a half now and am a well recieved community member. In fact, my witty responses such as this on is what makes me a well known figure. What? This wasnt witty? Ok then, tren, find out what this means, im sure my w-hat breathern know :downs: Edit: Ursa, before I respond I want you to know I respect you, and I dont want this reply to change that. If you read her response you will see that, while see does make a good point, her head is still up her ass. I hate how newbies are joining second life today thinking its a way of life. Hate to tell you, it isnt. Second life is a game, I said it, SECOND LIFE IS A GAME there! I said it! Second life is a game. Not a porno, not a 'club' (whats the fun of going to a club in a virtual world? Isnt clubbing about the adrenaline rush?), not a money tool, not a marketing tool. Second life is a game, it is ment for you to join and have fun, not have virtual sex (stupid), not go 'clubbing' (stupid in a virtual world), it is ment as a communication tool, as a place where you can share your creations with the world at the click of a mouse. Where you can share ideas, and frankly these people who are either in the game for money or to support those trying to make money, while simultaniously creating a tremendous amount of drama and ruining everyones fun (see catherine cottons reason for leaving, while I agree she needs a break from SL, she made some good points on SL's current state). Frankly I think I may forge my age and try to get into the teen grid if it will get me the fuck away from the drama created here. I joined Second Life to have fun, I never read anything about "DRAMA!" on the front page or I would have stayed the fuck away. I never read anything about "HAVE FUN AND GET SUSPENDED!" on the front page, but I will be telling people my full experiances with second life when they request it. I really hate to say this, but it seems all of www.somethingawful.com hates second life as of now. Why? Because of this single incident. I really think LL shot themselves in the foot with their policy, "guilty until......well guilty anyway because we dont want to admit our mistakes" is possibly the worst administration, well, ever. Hmm, I just relized I went on a massive rant, please forgive me, but I think it was needed to get some of these things off my chest. Shh, *whispers* Hehe, Ryen thinks he's witty. *snickers* ![]() _____________________
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Devlin Gallant
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12-25-2004 10:26
Our rules are simple: treat each other with respect and without harassment, adhere to local standards as indicated by simulator ratings, and refrain from any hate activity which slurs a real-world individual or real-world community. they said it right there. Hmm, Goons aren't very good at following the rules them, are they? _____________________
I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
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Devlin Gallant
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12-25-2004 10:29
Please don't use the forums for personal attacks. Quick, someone grab Haney's eraser while he's posting so he can't edit anymore posts. I am missing all the good stuff. _____________________
I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
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Devlin Gallant
Thought Police
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12-25-2004 10:36
Here is the current problem with the game, as far as I see it: Several days ago, I had an abuse report filed against me, I have done nothing wrong in the game as far as I know, followed every rule, didn't do anything offensive. Just seconds after I recieved the email indicating to me that an abuse report was filed against me, I sent an email to whoever it was I was supposed to send the email to according to the email I recieved. Its been 2, maybe 3 days now, and I haven't recieved a response yet. I still don't know what I did wrong, and I still don't know why I was banned for an hour completely out of nowhere. I asked a few Lindens in game if they had any idea why I might have been suspended temporarilly, they said they didn't have access to the abuse reports. Oh.. ok, so I talked to live help - they are volunteers I understand, they too do not have access to the abuse reports. Oh.. ok. So, its been 3 days now, I have done everything that I can possibly think of to find out what exactly I did wrong, and have come to the conclusion its because either A) I am a member of W-Hat and happened to be logged on when a few other members of W-Hat decided to stage an absolutely, ridiculously non-offensive, non-threatening and hilarious action. Mind you, I was in a different sim, thousands of meters away from them when this happened, and I had just started my account not a day before. or B) I had on purple pants at the time. Now, according to wonderfully helpful email I recieved, I "Violated community standards" and since neither A, nor B, involve me violating community standards, (unless the community standards do not allow for purple pants, which seems plausible) I am having an incredibly hard time figuring out just how, exactly, each instance of abuse is really investigated. Because according to the email I recieved, server logs were checked, and an investigation was launched over an abuse report filed by someone. Seeing as I started the account, as I stated earlier just a day prior to the event, and I had logged a total of maybe 4 hours since starting the account, I call shenanigans. Im not asking for abuse reports to be public, I understand that could be a problem, but given that supposedly each abuse report is investigated with checks to server logs and whatnot, the LEAST that Linden Labs could do is tell someone what they did wrong. "Violating community standards" doesn't tell me anything. And 3 days to recieve a reply? What if I was banned for 3 days? If i was banned for 3 days and proved that I had done nothing wrong, would I be credited for the 3 days I was unable to play the game I had payed for? (Assuming of course I was on a premium account [not happening any time soon if my first week is any indication of how Linden Labs acts]) So please, Linden Labs, anyone who has any pull in this game, it would be so amazingly helpful if you would please actually investigate things, and once you do, actually inform someone what they did wrong. It would be ever so helpful. Being a member of Ass-hats, err W-hats, or SA Goons is reason enough to be suspended. ![]() _____________________
I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
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Blast Luchador
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12-25-2004 10:51
Being a member of Ass-hats, err W-hats, or SA Goons is reason enough to be suspended. ![]() Whoa!!! Zinged!! Man you got fresh ideas, fresh new RIPE ideas. You should do something about black people next, because I believe I saw a picture of one stealing some dude's VCR! Quick!! SL is in danger! edit: merry christmas :> |
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Anne Vindaloo
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12-25-2004 11:02
So if what I glean of W-Hat from this thread is incorrect, then could you perhaps explain to me in a PM what it is? I'd love to know, having been a neighbor for so long, and totally unaware that it was connected to anything outside of SL. I am only going on what I read in this thread, having no other information. And if being W-Hat members is irrelevent to what happened that night, why is it even being raised in this thread? *color me confused* PM means Private Messaging, mainly used on Forums. |
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Anne Vindaloo
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12-25-2004 11:03
Being a member of Nig-, err Nego's, or Black People is reason enough to be beaten by the LA PD. ![]() Fixed |
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Devlin Gallant
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12-25-2004 11:04
Whoa!!! Zinged!! Man you got fresh ideas, fresh new RIPE ideas. You should do something about black people next, because I believe I saw a picture of one stealing some dude's VCR! Quick!! SL is in danger! edit: merry christmas :> He was prolly a Goon then. _____________________
I LIKE children, I've just never been able to finish a whole one.
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Disco Duck
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12-25-2004 11:48
Being a member of Ass-hats, err W-hats, or SA Goons is reason enough to be suspended. ![]() Way to read a post. |
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Bran Brodie
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Join date: 5 Jun 2004
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12-25-2004 12:26
I have been suspended for 7 days! (This is Ryen Jade, Cashuea Gilman is a friends account 1) It appears that your nastiness has finally been repaid--in part at least. 2) The spirit of a ban is to keep you out, this implies that using another account violates the spirit of the ban. But Hey (spelled correctly) you are Ryen so why should we expect for you to "take it like a man" when you can weasel your way back in. 3) To quote you from many posts: "Go Away". _____________________
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Anne Vindaloo
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12-25-2004 12:33
1) It appears that your nastiness has finally been repaid--in part at least. 2) The spirit of a ban is to keep you out, this implies that using another account violates the spirit of the ban. But Hey (spelled correctly) you are Ryen so why should we expect for you to "take it like a man" when you can weasel your way back in. 3) To quote you from many posts: "Go Away". hay guy way to read the thread. Dumbass. I find two things incredibly hilarious about you. 1.You have never met me, we have never exchanged words, and you hate me with such a passion it is like I ate your unborn child right out of your womb. 2.Your head is so far up your ass you dont relize that by saying "HAY" it is a parody on "hey", AND YOU TRY TO CORRECT MY SPELLING ON IT! To quote silly fool "laughable" |
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Teddy Kennedy
AKA PopeCrunch
Join date: 14 Dec 2004
Posts: 136
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12-25-2004 12:49
He was prolly a Goon then. You know, if you are going to keep up the goon hate, that's fine, but you really really might want to reconsider your sig. It just makes you look like a complete idiot. And really, you're probably not a complete idiot, we all have moments. Just, c'mon, man, you're killing me. |
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Bran Brodie
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12-25-2004 13:03
I said: It appears that your nastiness...
Dumbass. I find two things incredibly hilarious about you. 1.You have never met me, we have never exchanged words, and you hate me with such a passion it is like I ate your unborn child right out of your womb. 2.Your head is so far up your ass you dont relize that by saying "HAY" it is a parody on "hey", AND YOU TRY TO CORRECT MY SPELLING ON IT! You have just made my point, thanks _____________________
Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
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Anne Vindaloo
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12-25-2004 13:05
I said: It appears that your nastiness... You have just made my point, thanks OH GOD HE CAN QUOTE ME THE WORLD SHE IS ENDING OH GOD OH GOD! Edit: OH GOD BRAN BODIE DOESNT LIKE ME OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD OH GOD |
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Darkwing Duck
Flapping Terror
Join date: 20 Dec 2004
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12-25-2004 13:16
Being a member of Ass-hats, err W-hats, or SA Goons is reason enough to be suspended. ![]() Hey Devlin, sorry I couldn't talk the guys into letting you into W-Hat man. It's nothing personal really; it's just, we have standards to keep. Even if we only let one uptight jerk into the community, it could jeopardize our functionality as a group of people who share the same sense of humor. That aside, sorry things didn't work out for ya; now please stop being bitter about the whole thing. |
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Haney Linden
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12-25-2004 13:42
Please review these items from the forums guildelines before posting:
Private discussions – the forums are a public area for the Second Life community’s use. Individuals who have a dispute with each other have other channels of communication to discuss their differences – private messaging, IM within Second Life, or chatting within Second Life. Threads that are addressed to a single individual are inappropriate on the forums. Think before you post – sometimes in the heat of a passionate discussion you may be tempted to say something that on reflection you will regret. If your words do more harm to the community than they might give you pleasure in the short term, reconsider posting. Flaming, Spamming, Trolling – Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), Spamming (multiple posts of the same topic or discussion), and Trolling (a post with an intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are strongly discouraged. If you think your post might be over-reactive, or that it might fall into one of these definitions, please reconsider posting. |
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Torley Linden
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12-25-2004 14:46
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Bran Brodie
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12-25-2004 15:29
Please review these items from the forums guildelines before posting: Hi Haney, Since you are here I'm wondering what the Linden thinking is on banning a person from the Forums and then allowing them to post to the forums with other accounts? _____________________
Someday there will be a Metaverse that puts users first. Sadly LL does not want to be that Metaverse.
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Jade Lily
Cat Herder
Join date: 9 Oct 2003
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12-25-2004 15:58
Whew, that was a lot of reading. I'd like to add a couple of thoughts, if anyone is still reading.
It's true that a group of W-hat members came by the SL Public Library in a flying ship dressed as pirates, and looted my coffee shop of its scrumptuous bagels and hot espresso. The ship fell into pieces over our location, and the pirates came in search of wood to rebuild it. (I'm accepting donations in order to make the needed repairs to the library.) I found the entire demonstration quite entertaining. The creator of the ship also granted mod rights to Shokky so that she could delete the pieces that were left scattered about the land next door. If the members of W-hat were to maintain an opt-in list of venues where they could put on their demonstrations (an idea worth considering?), I would be the first to sign up. Still, not everyone shares my opinion, and I can think of plenty of circumstances under which it would be ill-conceived to put on such a demonstration. So maybe an opt-in list is the way to go? On the matter of SL moderation. I second the motion to make this stuff public knowledge, or at least to provide a better explanation to the person being suspended. Linden Lab has never been afraid to try new things. If it doesn't work out, we can always revert back to the old way of doing business. |
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jaxomlotus Clio
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Join date: 21 Dec 2004
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12-25-2004 16:18
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Hey Devlin, sorry I couldn't talk the guys into letting you into W-Hat man. It's nothing personal really; it's just, we have standards to keep. Even if we only let one uptight jerk into the community, it could jeopardize our functionality as a group of people who share the same sense of humor. That aside, sorry things didn't work out for ya; now please stop being bitter about the whole thing. =================== AHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Now it all makes sense. Devlin, for those interested, was incredibly irritating, following everyone around and telling them his brother is a member of SomethingAwful and he should be allowed to join W-Hat. Then to "impress" us he went around shooting people with watermelon guns. Exactly the kind of image we are trying to get rid of. DEVLIN, YOU ARE NOT 18. THAT'S A VIOLATION OF TOS. Also, regarding Jade Lilly's offer to host our entertainment, thank you very much. I think in general that's the way to go about our improv acts in the future - getting permission from hosts who want us. I'm pretty sure that if a host was known to have us pop in for genuinely funny "street theater" now and then, it would only raise the hosts' street traffic in their area. Or at least provide a good time for all. Thanks for recognizing that publically, Jade. |