Sweet!

Hey I'm not your alt

I'm Jesus Christ's alt, who's also the alt of the guy who REALLY shot JFK, and one of my other alts is Elvis Presley.

I'm noone's alt either.

Incidentally. Anyone who says she was "trapped" eat this.
http://home.tiscali.nl/~mkentie/Pics/mime4.jpg

OH GOD DO YOU SEE THAT THE LITTLE OLD LADY IS TRAPPING HER!

Why wasnt she suspended ?

18 and up? Yeah right, wrong direction I think.

Bah! I don't need alts. I am not afraid to call someone an asshat with my one and only account.

Have you ever followed any of those people home to see what their apartments are like? Are you not stereotyping them in the same way that you complain of being stereotyped?

Is it not bigotry to say "All those who share our humor are mentally healthy, happy beings. All those who do not, are disturbed individuals".

Then you should read the SL community standards, which I have twice reported you for violating in this thread. Now, I don't want to give myself too much credit but it was only after my filing those reports that Haney Linden posted a reminder not to personally attack people on the forums. Maybe that's only a coincidence and maybe it's not. I don't know, but please reconsider your behavior towards others in these forums.

But, I want to make it perfectly clear that unless a Linden tells me otherwise I will consider any and all smears of the W-Hat group as a whole to be personal attacks against me and a violation of the community standards and I will report them.

If you have a problem with individual members of W-Hat then you should take it up with those people directly or go to the proper authorities in SL. If you have a problem with W-Hat as a group then you should contact one or both of our group's officers and/or the appropriate SL authorities. Getting on the forums and posting, "ZOMG Some guys from W-Hat griefed my gothic bondage picnic, they are all a bunch of immature griefers and they should all be banned!!!!1" is unacceptable since there is no way for anyone here to verify the truth of this accusation and it winds up smearing our whole group.

I only took an interest in this thread when people started attacking W-Hat as a group. I am not one of Ryen's alts and I am not here to defend him. I have no idea whether anything he did was right or wrong as I was not there and not a part of any of it, but whatever the case your problem is with him, not W-Hat. In fact, I may be wrong but I believe that he has only been a member of W-Hat for a couple of weeks at most. I've never even met him (in SL or otherwise) and am not in any particular hurry to do so.

EDIT: DISCLAIMER - I am not an officer of W-Hat and I do not claim to represent it. I am posting here only as an individual member who is tired of being lumped in with other people for things that may or may not have happened. Being in W-Hat is only one part of my SL activity and if you meet me in-world please say hi; I do not carry hard feelings over from the forums.

Uh.. huh. So there!
Talk about making a clear statement of a determination to portray one's own position as that of being victimized thus always intending to portray one's own actions as those of self-defense...

Please explain to me how reporting things I believe to be community standards violations could be anything other than self-defense? Because that is the only action I am talking about here.

P.S. Gee I thought you were done with this thread. So good to have you back, unknown Internet person from the Internet!

Hmm, you maybe a little over sensitive then. I am NOT attacking an individual when I 'attack' A-Hat. I am attacking what I consider to be a griefer organization, SAGoons, and it's mutant offspring W-Hat. If folks don't like be 'lumped in' with the jerks, they shouldn't be hanging with them. If you were to spend your time hanging with a street gang known for stealing and eating peoples dogs, would you be offended when folks rushed out to grab their pets every time you walked by?

That's the thing, we're NOT known for griefing, and we're NOT known for stealing and eating people's dogs. You're fabricating this from whole cloth, we've provided photographic evidence that nobody was being 'surrounded so they couldn't move', you weren't there to make a judgement ANYWAY.

You're acting like the soccer mom from the heartland that's never even BEEN to New York that still thinks people from India are terrorists because they look vaguely Middle Eastern, and I'd like to think you're smarter than this.

LOL Travis was "mimed"

well it woulda been funny if the neg ratings hadnt happened IMHO...

Teddy,

<<That's the thing, we're NOT known for griefing>>

Um - yes you are.

Spreading patently untrue stories about others is defamation.

Firsthand? Cool, give me a list of people that have been personally griefed by the current members of W-Hat, not just 'oh I heard they did something nasty' or 'this one guy used to be a member of them and he was a jerk but they threw him out of the group but still' or any of that rot.

Show me ONE person that has been griefed, firsthand, by a current member of W-Hat.

Just ONE.

*waves* Hello, Teddy!

By whom?

Dang it, it was explained a long time back in several of these threads, but yes - during the months I lived over the road from the HQ in Baku, I was griefed on several occasions by both Masa and Bakuzelas (the officers, right?), we exchanged negative ratings and abuse reports, I was banned from the property (probably still am), Bakuzelas' RLSO explained to me that their sense of humor was different but not condemnable, we hugged and made up, Bakuzelas became a close friend over the time we spent in Live Help, and I moved away.

Yes, I was griefed. Yes, I got over it. No, I hold no current grudges against anyone in the group. But the question was - "has anyone been griefed by a current member" and the answer, in my case, is yes. Being pushed off the edge of the Sim while AFK right next to my own land (on the Linden-owned road) is griefing.

I was partying at Luskwood last night and had a smashing time. Not too long before that, I was partying at Baku and very much had the same sort of time hanging out with friendly individuals who were there to have fun. I am a friend to members of the furry AND W-Hat subcultures (bless you Toffler), and more, since some people are BOTH. Where I get good vibes, I'll go. I'm not here to waste my time on negativity because life is full enough of pain and suffering already. If I want grief, I'd read more about the 8.9 mag quake in the news, and that is tragic indeed.

One thing I've long liked about the W-Hat land in Baku is that it's like a city, but gone twisted with some surreal, cartoonish touches. I used to attend events lots there like I mentioned before, and for the most part, the goons (I'm generalizing here, and of course I am also on the SA forums, so label me as you wanna *grins*) have treated me well.

Wheeeeee! Cheerio, and onto the next paragraph . . .

I've come across some rude individuals who shouted obscenities at me as I walked across the street into the W-Hataburger and shot me with pixelguns, yes, but I'm here to focus on those who have done me well, and that, by far and large, has been a majority of the W-Hatters that I have encountered. Curious note: the aforementioned mainly seems to include the W-Hatters who are ALSO long-term SL Residents or intend to be, and aren't just signing up for SL to run their free weekly trial like a "flash in a pan" and then vanish. You can look up their profiles, then get to know them personally, and then you'll have a better idea. But it ain't gonna work by proxy. Sitting down and having a good listen is sooo important. So again and again, it comes down to the individual.


MISC. QUESTION: MASA, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE LEMONADE BY THE CHAIRSITTING GAME?!? DON'T CHAIRSITTERS GET THIRSTY?!?!!


Really, all this text-talk and occasional picture is starting to bore me. I feel that perhaps in some ways, an inworld "cultural exchange" would be more welcome and lively, and facilitate realtime communication as opposed to the start-stop herky-jerk of "POST-WAIT-REPLY!". Not to mention the... multimedia!

Needless to say, ^ Cromulence was at the Luskwood party. Some seemed alarmed that he was in W-Hat by way of group affiliation, but I will say that from what I saw, dancing along, we just partied. He didn't raise hackles or cause trouble, to my knowledge. And I feel that on here, he expresses himself quite articulately and politely.

That was merely my personal experience.

Jeff, your group came to several events at Club Elite last week. I spoke to you and another of your group who said you were just there to have fun. At one event, you were all wearing crates. One of you was brandishing a gun and another had explosives all over himself. I asked them to put them away and got no response, so I booted them.

The following night, several returned this time with Hazmat suits and proceeded to harass some of my customers, calling them sluts and whores.

The 3rd night, they showed up in invibility prims and my sim crashed. This also was a sim with NO history of problems. My event was ruined and most of the customers did not return. Further investigation uncovered several C4 objects under the floor of my club, all belonging to a member of your group (who has been banned).

I have been contemplating filing abuse charges on everyone in your group, but I believe that it was just a few who are the troublemakers. If I were you, I would leave that group of losers. If there are ANY more occurences, I promise that I will file abuse charges against every single member of that group, as will many of my regular customers.

Your groups activities caused many of my customers to leave, and my sim crashing while your members were there (some brandishing guns and explosives) was not coincidental IMHO. Also, C4 packages belonging to a member of your group were found under the floor after the crash. I have not reported these incidents, but should they occur again, i will report the whole group. If you have any class, I'd leave that group of losers.

You would like to think I am smarter than this, Huh! Well, I'm NOT so there! Uhm, err...wait.

Awww, shucks! Yes, I had a good time. I like going to Luskwood because it's one of the few areas in SL that isn't just a bunch of malls, clubs, and suburban tract housing. Usually I just avoid crowds in SL but I was feeling strangely social so when I saw a big group I dropped in for a little while. Didn't win anything though. Maybe next time!

I am a cherub. I CAN'T lie. Besides, where have I spread any untrue stories? If you look at what I posted anywhere about W-Hat, and SA Goons it's all OPINIONS based on my experiences and observations. When I start accusing you of smoking turkey droppings or something, then it becomes lies. Uhm, unless you DO smoke turkey droppings. You don't do you?