Something to be Said about Gorean Life

I almost spit out my coffee on the keyboard at work... Would not have been a good impression.

I have one to add: why not just revert back to the apes with lesser intelligence like our pre-decessors were? No chance either to blow up the Earth with our humanbuild toys of war anymore; a real abuse of human kind's abilities there I'd say.


/bow
That was something I said last evening at BDSM school for submissives too... The submissive holds the power, not the Dom/me. A lot of people, especially outsiders, seem to miss that point.

Oh no... as Dom/me I now should be examining my head; I'm being abused by submissives to their desires ...
/ponder

/choke

Violence is everywhere... But I dare to say, in BDSM kind of relations, be it D/s, be it Gor, femDom, ageplay or whatever your choosing, there is LESS violence then in normal domestic households for RL or even in SL in other sim settings (pushers, weapons all over the place....)

Reason why violence is less in BDSM community is because people know it is with much more depth and emotionally involved if real violence would show up. There are not many people really into that kind of living.

That set aside, I agree with the people posting/stirrin up. They're on a crusade and on my ignore list. No reason for me to fuel them.. Without fuel they will go be the annoyance somewhere else.

You are just a weak earthling. Unlike the men on Gor where the true nature of men and women is still known. ( Sorry, i had to crack a lame joke)

Stfu Steven and get back in the kitchen where you belong!!!!!

Chauvinist!

edited for precisions sake

I know that as well. Im aware people are violent. Im also aware that bdsm has some violence but its controlled violence and they know the limits of the other person have safe words or what have you.

You don't know what the hell your talking about, these things above were almost staples of Rome from the first days.

Military overextension was essentially it, financial instability and power struggle.

FYI no war has EVER been faught over moral value.

The bottom line is if you haven't roleplayed in gor for a long period of time, don't comment on it. You don't have the expertise to pass any kind of valuable judgement. You hear horror stories which, are rumors mostly and obscurred versions of the truth.

It's kind of like people from other countries that comment on how horrible America is, yet they have never been here. The media shapes and warps your view of what is really going on. It's the exact same thing. Try seeing first hand what it's like and you may feel differently. If you have no interest in doing so and have never done so, then your opinion holds little value.

Really now slip, have you raped many gerbils? Well if you haven't done it obviously your opinion on this is null and void. No matter that the observation of such act, close study et al or hell even gut reaction may entirely be spot on, the fact that you haven't ACTIVELY joined in on the raping (of gerbils) makes your entire viewpoint on the subject unimportant. You are mainly going off of horror stories, rumors and obscurred versions of the truth.

Try raping a gerbil first hand some time, if you have no real interest in doing it then your opinion holds little value.

FYI your argument is kinda shitty

The bottom line is, if you haven't been a Scientologist for a long period of time, don't comment on it. You don't have the expertise to pass any kind of valuable judgment. You hear horror stories which are rumors, mostly, and obscured versions of the truth.

Do you see the comparison I'm drawing here?

<----roleplayed in Gor for a long period of time

Though even if I hadn't.....

Go fuck yourself for telling me what I can and cannot comment on. Your second paragraph goes on about how the media warps people's view of America, and here you are trying to tell me not to exercise one of the fundamental rights that being American gives me. It just goes to show that your "you don't know anything till you're one of us" argument is rhetorical nonsense, the same bullshit used by some JWs and Mormons that ring my doorbell on Saturday morning. The fact that you're defending people who abuse your RP, thus giving it the bad name it has, by saying they aren't in the significant number they are, coupled with your fallback to rhetoric to defend them and the system itself, allows me to draw comparison of Gor to some Fundamentalists IRL. That's scary, man.

Rape is from the latin "rapere", and means, "to steal, plunder or rob". In fact, I'd speculate our word "rob" is cognate with "rapere". The core of its meaning, though, is an unwanted appropriation of property without the owners consent. It was, initially by metaphor, and perhaps by the story of "the rape of the sabine women" (a story about Rome's stealing of women from a neighboring city state, who were likely *raped* in the modern sense as well afterward) pushed toward our current conception of the term.

However, as I noted, its core meaning is something done without consent.

So how can a consented-to action be rape?

Distasteful: perhaps. Certainly Gorean roleplay is something I'm disturbed by...but my response to this feeling of being disturbed is by not participating in the roleplay myself.

So you're willing to listen to the concerns from those of us who spent time immersed in Gor sims, then?

NOte no response.

he's busy raping a gerbil so he can comment on my post, I know it

Poor thing. It's going "Squee, Squee!"

Thanks for the soda through my nose.

I'm all for the reinstatement of Darwinism. People didn't act up as much when they were eaten by lions.

Let's begin with the Christians who post the anti-abortion threads.

Well if the gerbil has a baby I think its the best route. What kind of mutant child would that be?

I can and I just did. You have very little experience with gor as you admittedly said you did. You heard what...a few women that had bad experiences on it that were probably seeking attention and you assume you know how it is to every degree? There are two sides to every story. You know very little about Gorean Roleplay. Yet you feel you as though you have the entire realm figured out. Just as it's your right to write what you want and give your opinion, it's my right to say that you don't have enough knowledge about the realm to give an unbiased opinion.



Actually, if you read what I wrote - it referred to people who are *not* American that have never been here, bad mouthing America to begin with.



Yes - except we don't ring your doorbell nor do we try and convert people. People come willingly and we do not bother people who are not of realm that roleplay there. No one forces you. No one rings your door on a sunday morning with the Book of Norman (Author of the Gorean Novels) and says, "Hey, would you like to be gorean? What about your children?! Here's a collar...come submit! Or here's a sword...come fight!"



I'm not defending them. In every realm and every walk of life, you will always have someone who abuses or takes advantage of a system. . But like all people that don't approve of this specific realm, they see one person doing it and assume we're all like that.

Assuming that Gor is this horrible realm is exactly like people who do not play Second Life assume that we are all pedophiles because age play goes on within this game. Are you going to be anti-second life now? Or how about assuming that just because there is a large amount of black people in prison, that the entire race is to blame for America's crime and poverty? Your doing the EXACT same thing with Gorean Roleplayers. Because a few people take advantage of this realm in a negative manner, YOU assume that we are ALL like this.

Slip, I did spend many months in Gor before leaving. Are you ready and willing to set aside defenses, quit taking any criticisms personally and really discuss my concerns?

I also spent quite a time in Gor as I've stated twice. I didn't do so with this av, but that's what makes alts beautiful.

TBH He argues like a Gorean Kevn.

But I'm talking about one select group of society who seem to have a collective case of stupidity. Don't you think there's something a little ridiculous about the Gor lifestyle? Every Gor I've met takes it very very seriously and puts themselves up on a high horse about their lifestyle. If they weren't all humorless, preening biotches I might have a little respect for them. Yeah, you'd have to be strong to wear some of the get-ups these girls and guys wear. Leather queens galore. I bet it's hard to stand in the WA with your ass hanging out for everyone to see and comment on. Poor Gors. So oppressed and underdressed.

Bullshit. Do you have any idea how many Gorean Masters parade around SL telling non-Gor Slaves how horrible they are and how their Masters are a farce?




The difference being that the majority of ageplayers are not child abusers, the majority of black people aren't criminal, and unless you were somehow born Gorean that doesn't even draw as a parallel.

Because MOST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE REALM on SL and other online communities take advantage of the realm in a negative manner, I see it for what it is. Did you think, perhaps for a moment, that the reasonable Goreans are so only in minority?

Mabye you ran into some bad people in your time in gor lorelei and corvus but that doesnt mean its all bad. I've run into a bunch of bad non rp'ers but that doesnt mean i run off and say the human race is bad. There are concerns I'm sure but they are your concerns and you yourself dont need to be involved in Gor. Your showing intolerance be it from some bad experience or whatever. It still doesnt give the right to start a thread claiming some of the stuff this thread has claimed and it also by no means gives anyone the right to say a person should be banned for partaking in such things.

My guess is you two got involved with people that were not very serious about the Gorean RP that were likely doing it for shits and giggles. There are alot of people like that but they dont last to long in Gor by any standards. It still concludes a method of intolerence even by personal experience to go along with some folks who basically think we outta out people for RP which is just an off way of thinking. I dont care who you are its not your place to say out such and such a group because they rp'ed something i didnt like.

In the sense of Rp'ing like Anti-semites i can see asking LL to do something because its targeing an entire group of people. Gor isnt targeting anyone or anything specifically. They choose not to let furries into their RP sims but thats simply the rules they came up with for that area and its their rights if they own the sim. Now Im appalled at people that read threads like this on rp'ing be it ageplay, gor, or furries that go out and start stuff over it like shooting at people. Buying land next to a place and harassing the owner and patrons, nuking sims that partake in that roleplay.

You only add to the RP community thinking that your the bad guys when people go off and do that. Even with push being able to be off now its still the principle of that actions they take against RP groups in general and that is the biggest problem. You may not like it but why start hateful threads over it. If you dont like it thats your choice and your in no way shape or form forced to get involved with it. If you see a gorean or a slave or whatever type of rp'er shopping, or anywhere just leave it alone. Dont whip out a gun or something or start cursing at / harassing them.

I dont like Gor either but i understand what its supposed to be about. Now alot of people in SL do abuse it but that by no means (and yes im saying it again) gives us the right to control any other community in world. Look what happened with furries. They retreat to their own sims now and alot are hateful towards people that dont partake in the RP because of attacks made on them. Furries are nice, some bad eggs but generally a well mannered group that dont feel the need to go out and do things to other people. Dont see a furry shooting at a human (well mabye in weapons testing but thats besides the point). Its not a problem that people have a problem with Gor. The problem inlies on how they wish their problem to be treated by LL and how they make gregarious comparisons trying to tie it into Rape scene RP and other stuff which is still a form of RP. (a note to people rape scene RP doesnt mean non consentual because it has the word rape in it. They are recreating a scene like that. As i expressed like a burglar breaking in in r/l (burglar being the husband) and tying up his wife and having his way with her)

I respect people's rights to their opinions even if most of them are off base or biased due to bad experiences you still have the right to an opinion. You however shouldnt try to get your opinion of ohhh thats icky to be a bannable type of situation.

Ummmmm Gorean women wear silks not Leather but thats besides the point. Sure some things are goofy about Gor. But then so are alot of things human beings in general do. Mabye you ran into some people with a superiority complex hehe. It still doesnt account for for a line like if they werent all such and such. Mabye the ones you met but you should not be by any means applying that to the community as a whole. I know some fantastic people in gor that act in a normal upright way that a normal person would. Again you ran into some problems with it. The Gor's are opressed by people that make threads to try and pull down the entire RP community but they arnt under dressed. They choose to dress that way Silks can often be see thru and the males quite often have alot more clothing on.

Also sounds to me that you ran into D/S people rather then Gor if they were into alot of leather stuff. It still also doesnt account for saying they are weak willed. They know what is gratifying to them and do it in RP in a virtual world. That by no means makes them weak in any form.