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Io Zeno
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08-31-2006 10:41
And a furry one too! Hmm we've not done a furry one for a while.. how about a gangster one (i think the ebonics thread would do for that) Furry, Ebonics Speaking, Gansta's of Gor!  (or, the old standby, Gay, Bejeweled, Nazi Bikers of Gor...) http://books.adultfanfiction.net/story.php?no=544176437 _____________________
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Anjaleka Virgo
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08-31-2006 10:56
I was in a situation like that when I was 19 (which is to say, eons ago) and not in Gor. That's why I'm hypervigilant about such things in all settings, Gor or not. But anyway, one of the most hurtful things to come out of that was the notion some people had that I must have been asking for it or that "just leaving" would be as easy as getting off the couch to turn the channel. Sorry you got entangled in such bad situation!!! I hope you were able to get out of it relatively unscathed! For people on the 'outside', it CAN be hard to understand why you just didn't leave and that simpy because you were a slave, you were 'asking for it'. Situations can quickly get complicated. It sounds like you made the best decisions you could with the info at hand to get out of your situation. wishing you well  |
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cricket Tiger
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08-31-2006 10:57
Literature Gor itself was created by a man named John Lange, a university professor holding a doctorate in philosophy, writing under the assumed name of John Norman. In a series of twenty-five books, the first of which was published in 1967, he developed and defined the world of Gor and the cultures which populate it. Though fictional, this land and its peoples carry the influence of their creator and his profession, expressing the writer's thoughts and assertions in a form of allegory in which he explores the existence and purpose of men and women, their relationship to one another and their world, and the development of society and culture. The backdrop for this is a savage counter-Earth, whose people can be likened to many ancient cultures of our own world's past, predominantly those of the Greco-Roman age. They are the descendants of people transported to Gor from Earth's classical times, left to develop their own history down a line diverging from that of our own civilization's growth. This fictional setting is utilized not only as a medium for storytelling, but also the environment within which the author develops clearly considered philosophical and sociological assertions, demonstrated through the actions of the characters within the stories and their lives on Gor. Barbaric by the standards of contemporary Earth, these people live in a highly developed and refined society of city-states, whose only true "barbarism" is a life contrary to what is acceptable to our own civilization's current beliefs. "It is not necessary to burn a book, if one does not permit it to be published." They are no more then Savage beast like the old day with the cave men knock then in the head and carry them to the cave .... lol What women is her right mind would come to sl and be subject to this ... this makes me wouder about ppl lifes in general and question every thing ... Kelly ... As you know all of this has all been programed in to Women at birth to be Submissve ... Which i think is totaly .. Wrong and Self Esteem issues come to play here to Kelly Do you think ! Its a Dang Sci-fi book lol ... ppl need to get real life i think and be secure with them self And not sayi9ng all of them but some of these places try to Draw ppl in to this life style and be fore to long they get hooked and cant get out .... .. Then they come to sl Saying how bad there . life is and there master ect is beastteing them ... i said then leave ... they say but i like it ..Some ppl need A Real life Shink Not !! sl to get there help Kelly ... too bad not more ppl like you are out there to help !!!! ZZ to me there is black there is white no shades of grey We are adults and should know better ... Kelly also think of the Co-Dependancy circle too You know it is the narrow minded people that start this kind of crap. Yes this lifestyle is based from a series of books. (bets you are amazed these Goreans can read) yes for most it is role play. And yes we all have fantasies what ever they may be. We should not sit back and judge others because they are different or do not follow the ever perfect lifestyle. Get to know the person from the inside and stop judging covers. But give it a try once. It might also shock the hell out of you to know that there are many Goreans whom that in there real life are very highly educated individuals. With more self esteem then you could ever imagine. Venture out into the grey spots in life and experience something different. And yes we are Adults and should know the meaning of the word SECOND LIFE. Do not belittle these people for living out there SECOND LIFE. |
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Sardonic Undertone
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08-31-2006 13:21
This thread would last till the end. I wonder if it can survive being Godwinned? Not that it's an unfair comparison. It's not unusual to find in Cos a spread-eagled naked woman chained up to a wooden post with an open invitation to be raped by any male passing by. That's a sight that should be offensive to anyone, and all the participants (the woman included) should be ashamed of themselves. It's no less offensive than if you were to find a sim with a dark skinned avatar being lynched by people in white sheets or one with avatars wearing yellow stars being herded onto trains by people in Nazi regalia. The Gorean ideology is abhorrent. Roleplay is just roleplay, yes, but to RP this misogynistic worldview is to celebrate it and give it power. It denigrates women and promotes the idea of male superiority which is a slap in the face to all the people who have fought for equality for everyone. I wonder how many Goreans are part of the MRA movement? And whine and moan about how boys are falling behind girls in our schools (oh noes!!)? Should Goreans be banned? Nah, they'd just slink away and go somewhere else. I like being able to recognize them on sight, or at least after a quick perusal of their profile. |
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Ghoti Nyak
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08-31-2006 13:34
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Ordinal Malaprop
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08-31-2006 13:36
Is there anything which *isn't* "Of Gor"?
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Lorelei Patel
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08-31-2006 13:37
Is there anything which *isn't* "Of Gor"? Feminists of Gor? _____________________
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Ordinal Malaprop
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08-31-2006 13:37
Feminists of Gor? Good call! |
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Ghoti Nyak
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08-31-2006 13:38
Is there anything which *isn't* "Of Gor"? "Open Sims Of Gor"? "Furries of Gor"? "Universal Freedom of Gor"? Hmmmmmm.... -Ghoti _____________________
"Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
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Ghoti Nyak
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08-31-2006 13:38
Feminists of Gor? Awesome. -Ghoti _____________________
"Sometimes I believe that this less material life is our truer life, and that our vain presence on the terraqueous globe is itself the secondary or merely virtual phenomenon." ~ H.P. Lovecraft
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Carly Sonic
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08-31-2006 13:38
I wonder if it can survive being Godwinned? Not that it's an unfair comparison. It's not unusual to find in Cos a spread-eagled naked woman chained up to a wooden post with an open invitation to be raped by any male passing by. That's a sight that should be offensive to anyone, and all the participants (the woman included) should be ashamed of themselves. It's no less offensive than if you were to find a sim with a dark skinned avatar being lynched by people in white sheets or one with avatars wearing yellow stars being herded onto trains by people in Nazi regalia. The Gorean ideology is abhorrent. Roleplay is just roleplay, yes, but to RP this misogynistic worldview is to celebrate it and give it power. It denigrates women and promotes the idea of male superiority which is a slap in the face to all the people who have fought for equality for everyone. I wonder how many Goreans are part of the MRA movement? And whine and moan about how boys are falling behind girls in our schools (oh noes!!)? Should Goreans be banned? Nah, they'd just slink away and go somewhere else. I like being able to recognize them on sight, or at least after a quick perusal of their profile. First of all, have been to Port Cos quite a few times and have NEVER seen a naked woman spread eagle chained to a post with an open invitation to rape her. Infact, have NEVER seen that anywhere in SL Gor and have been to well.. all of the cities. I am NOT being degraded in anyway in my CHOICE to be a slave in my SL. In my RL I am a very strong woman who holds a pretty prestigious position in her company and manages a department full of about 98% men. So, do I have a problem with women who are strong, respected and independent, not at all. However, in my SL, my fantasy world, having a strong Master who adores his girl, who cares for his girl and who protects and takes care of her.. well, that's something that I enjoy in my SL, not to mention my RPing is very relaxing and nonstressfull after a long stressful day in RL. You dont have to be a part of that RP and you dont have to like it. But, insulting those who are enjoying a RP of their own choice is just wrong. |
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Io Zeno
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08-31-2006 13:40
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Lost Newcomb
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08-31-2006 13:42
First of all, have been to Port Cos quite a few times and have NEVER seen a naked woman spread eagle chained to a post with an open invitation to rape her. Infact, have NEVER seen that anywhere in SL Gor and have been to well.. all of the cities. I think you haven't seen much of Port Cos. As a furry, I visited there and saw all that before getting thrown out. What you need to do, go down the gangplank, take a right, take a left, go up the path, past the big flying eagle like thing, then containue on past that till you come to this thing called a kennel. There you'd see all that. _____________________
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Io Zeno
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08-31-2006 13:43
I think you haven't seen much of Port Cos. As a furry, I visited there and saw all that before getting thrown out. What you need to do, go down the gangplank, take a right, take a left, go up the path, past the big flying eagle like thing, then containue on past that till you come to this thing called a kennel. There you'd see all that. I'm going and bringing a picnic basket! _____________________
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Zephria Zapata
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08-31-2006 13:54
Feminists of Gor? Im not sure if there is such a thing as my research ! there are NO!~! Women that are Gor masters.. and in one tribe of the Gor .. Women can't leave the House or gor ... they are ... Killed if they do So Then in Gor there is no Equality Men rules supreme .... the women areDogs on as leash lol to be trained ... Women Dont need to be trained .. Right ! Smiles This is why i took the word OBEY!!! Out of my marriage vow when i got married in Rl .. I dont Obey No one ... |
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Lorelei Patel
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08-31-2006 13:59
Im not sure if there is such a thing as my research ! there are NO!~! Women that are Gor masters.. Well, technically you're right. But there are mistresses. Free Women, to use the parlance. They can own slaves, both male and female, and many of them do. _____________________
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Carly Sonic
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08-31-2006 14:01
Im not sure if there is such a thing as my research ! there are NO!~! Women that are Gor masters.. and in one tribe of the Gor .. Women can't leave the House or gor ... they are ... Killed if they do So Then in Gor there is no Equality Men rules supreme .... the women areDogs on as leash lol to be trained ... Women Dont need to be trained .. Right ! Smiles This is why i took the word OBEY!!! Out of my marriage vow when i got married in Rl .. I dont Obey No one ... Actually, in Gor.. women can not only own slaves and be their Mistress, they can also rule cities... continue your research and look into Outlaw of Gor. |
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Zephria Zapata
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08-31-2006 14:05
Actually, in Gor.. women can not only own slaves and be their Mistress, they can also rule cities... continue your research and look into Outlaw of Gor. Outlaw !Hum .. which means "Outside the law * which mean the women Rebel Against the whole intistution of Gor ... so they Truely Arent Gor then ? |
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Carly Sonic
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08-31-2006 14:09
Actually, the "Outlaw" in the story is a MAN.
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Alex Fitzsimmons
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08-31-2006 14:10
Outlaw !Hum .. which means "Outside the law * which mean the women Rebel Against the whole intistution of Gor ... so they Truely Arent Gor then ? Um ... no. That isn't how the title is meant, in this case. However, as for women as portrayed in the novels, while it is true they can occupy positions of authority and own slaves, there's always a definite ... secondary role applied to them. Going strictly by the books, that's the way Gor is presented. _____________________
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Vivianne Draper
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08-31-2006 14:31
There are no llamas of gor
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Lorelei Patel
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08-31-2006 14:35
However, as for women as portrayed in the novels, while it is true they can occupy positions of authority and own slaves, there's always a definite ... secondary role applied to them. Going strictly by the books, that's the way Gor is presented. As I found out one day as I found myself the Admin of a city for, oh, about two hours. That sure was ... interesting. Ah, good times, good times. _____________________
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Io Zeno
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08-31-2006 14:35
There are no llamas of gor Dali Llamas of Gor. _____________________
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Vivianne Draper
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08-31-2006 14:38
Sorry but uh, no.. no its not. You have the right to free speech and expression. Therefore you can do the gorean thing and be a slave and uphold the misogynist lifestyle gor promotes. And people can point fingers at you and say yer wrong and lack character for doing so. Because they have the right to free speech and expression too.
I'll defend the Gorean's right to exist with all my might. But unless someone is trying to stifle you, shut you down, and bring an end to it, that's where it ends. If you are going to live and/or RP an alternative like Gor, you better get used to it offending people. And you better get used to those people speaking their minds. It might be insulting to you -- but then again your lifestyle is insulting to others. So it pretty much all works out in the end. You dont have to be a part of that RP and you dont have to like it. But, insulting those who are enjoying a RP of their own choice is just wrong. |
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Vivianne Draper
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08-31-2006 14:39
There are also no Dali Llamas of Gor. And if there were, they would not have llamas to carry their crap cause there are no llamas of Gor.
Gor suffers from a lack of llamas. Dali Llamas of Gor. |