Burning Life '08 General Discussion

Hey Burners of Second Life. It's Anthoney Here With Some Special Things...


As You Know Burning Life is September 27th 2008 So I Am Gonna Give You So Headers.

* ------- URL removed by Katt Linden -------------
- u can Find Alot Of News From BL

* http://www.Blog.Secondlife.com - Linden Labs Blog

* And Much More can Be Found In-World Just Search " Burning Life "




Thanks
- Anthoney Biedermann

See You This September !

It is against Forum guidelines to promote your website outside of the Resident Run Websites area.

I understand why you feel you'd like to do so anyway here, but others aren't allowed to do so elsewhere in the forums, so allowing you do so is pretty hard to justify, as a moderator.

looks at edited post and the blog-which-shall-not-be-linked.

looks at rules:
Advertising - Advertising is not allowed on the forums. Posts containing Spam, real-world commercial advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, and solicitations are expressly forbidden. Also, please do not post any affiliate or referral links, or post anything asking for a referral. Such posts will be subject to removal. This includes using the forum private message system to spam other members.

fails to perceive connection.

shrugs.

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Katt, following Sindy's cue above with the intention to not derail this thread about Burning Life, I would very much like to continue this conversation over in the "Forum Guidelines: Discussion with Katt Linden" thread, as I feel this question is not adequately defined in the guidelines.
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Hi all—
I've posted some guidelines on the Burning Life maturity policy, and I made it a new thread so it's easy for people to find:

/347/31/277884/1.html

This looks great, and is exactly what folks have been asking about! Thanks Dusty!

Thee's a place in our forum profiles to put an url. Are those now off-limits?

Is it forbidden to include a link to a tutorial site in an answer to a question?

There are many links to user's websites in the forums. There's never been any mention that these are considered inappropriate advertising. There's a stickied thread in the Texturing forum, for example, specifically to provide links to websites, primarily resident websites. Torley Linden got Jeska Linden to sticky this thread. If there was a policy forbidding links to user sites outside of Resident Run Websites the response should have been to move or delete the thread instead of putting at the top of the thread list for easy reference.

There's a link in a thread in Resident Answers to http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/article4557935.ece?Submitted=true . Is that advertising for TimesOnline?

I'm not sure a good judgment is being made here.

Originally Posted by Katt Linden
It is against Forum guidelines to promote your website outside of the Resident Run Websites area.


So is that ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
page "official"? Or blessed by God in some special way, or what? My understanding was that ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
and ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
were both residents? But ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
links are up on the forum, in the same space ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
has been “removed”?

Why is it not censored and Burninglife.com is? I don't get the difference specifically. No, really I mean it. I am confused.
Is ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
not rubbing elbows with the right people? To the point where his blog link actually has to be removed, from all posts on the “official” forum?
Does paying your own money out of pocket to cover a Second Life event somehow disqualify you to even dare mention the url of your page? Is ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
secretly getting rich somehow by covering an event that lasts a couple of weeks or so on sl for a site he pays for all year long? Inquiring minds want to know. Or is it really down to the fact that his blog is free? (As in free, you know the old definition, not the newspeaks definition.)
Freedom includes the good, the bad, and the ugly.

------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
page does include this disclaimer: Maybe that is the secret?

“Second Life® and Linden Lab® are registered trademarks of Linden Research, Inc. No infringement is intended.”

No infringement taken ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
, except on everyone’s right to free, creative artistic expression at Burning Life.
Oh, before I forget, someone please answer the boy as to whether you are going to Burning Man this year. We can all pretend it wasn’t a “hey, look at me, I am reading your posts” question.

In case this needs to be clarified, this is the definition of “advertising”;
Purchase or ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
, what do you want us to purchase or consume?
If you are going to be censored and cast out anyway, even tho you have played by all the rules, even the NEW ones, which no one can really keep track of... my advise it go to ------- Names removed by Katt Linden -------------
and make that shit into a tee-shirt. There'’s nothing to lose here, because there isn’t anything to be had anymore. The spirit of play is dead in the water. Someone smugly tell me how I will be banned for having an opinion… I feel sorry for people that think they maintain anything worthwhile, because the likes of me will be “taken care of.”

There was some stir about media coverage? And how it has to be PG? My question to the Lindens would be just what is the bottom line on your so called Burning Man replica? Media = profit, we all know that. Man, I am just done. I can be pretty much 100% sure that Larry has no knowledge of this, it only seems right that someone lets him know.

Advertising is a form of communication that typically attempts to persuade potential customers to purchase or to consume more of a particular brand of product or service. Many advertisements are designed to generate increased consumption of those products and services through the creation and reinforcement of "brand image" and "brand loyalty".

Phillip isn't around anymore is he? Tell me how this whole new deal isn't exploiting Burning Man, Burning Life, Phillips Dreams, and anything else that was worthwhile.

1) It's my understanding that both sites are linked to from the Burning Life Wiki page. There's a link there to the Burning Man site also.

2) The fact that we ask *everyone* posting in the forums to restrict their promotion of their own web sites *in the forums* to the Resident Run Websites area isn't anything complicated, it's a simple guideline we ask everyone to follow.

3) You may not use the SL Forums for personal attacks. It is not appropriate to use the forums to accuse others, either, so I'm afraid I have to moderate your post to remove the names of those you're making negative comments about.

I'm not sure why you think asking you to follow the same rules as everyone else is somehow a personal attack or anti-Burning Man or anti-Philip.

Forum Guidelines state: "Flaming, Spamming, Trolling – Flaming (posting a message that is intended to incite anger or directly attack a person or persons), *Spamming (multiple posts of the same topic or discussion),* and Trolling (a post with an intentionally contrary opinion written with the intent of inciting or getting argumentative opinions) are strongly discouraged. If you think your post might be over-reactive, or that it might fall into one of these definitions, please reconsider posting."

Thank you,
-- Katt Linden

Please do keep this conversation thread on the topic of Burning Life '08.

Thank you!

another sl5b fiasco in the works.

In reviewing the Guidelines above (in the link that says "GUIDELINES - please read before posting", I can't seem to find a mention of the policy you are now enforcing. Could you maybe post the link to the forum policy that requires non secondlife.com links to be ONLY posted in the Resident-Run Websites area? It might clear up some of the confusion here and lead to more on-topic posts rather than distracting ones.

Additionally, rather than make this very minor thing into a contentious issue, it seems possible that the forum guidelines could be modified for the Linden-Sponsored Events area or a specific BL-related websites thread could be created within the Events area.

Let's look for solutions to get more people involved and excited rather than creating contention over things that really don't matter much.

The more each "side" digs in its heels the more goodwill gets lost.

Katt, I hope you have just misunderstood what I was saying, and this wasn't an intentional misdirection on your part. I made my point clear in my original posts, which is now such a mess of removed names and censorship that it handily no longer really makes sense. Chalk one up, I won't darken your forum again.
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But fair enough that VicLife<<<<this in NOT a website, and "Void" is not a pronoun)

has been censored... because before, his links were left up and the Burninglife.com ones were taken down.
Although I will never agree with this policy... at the very least it has to seem "fair and balanced", just like Faux news.

Welcome to your nightmare.

Katt, I apologise to you personally for making your impossible job even more difficult, and I am sure you don't get paid enough to play a role such as this. As a matter of fact, it's unlikely than any amount of money could make it worthwhile, but I wish you the best of luck. I really mean that, I am not being facetious.

And whether I am off topic or not, is a matter of debate, for those who know what the burn is all about. I am mostly guilty of reading the writing on the wall. But you are right, this isn't the place. That's why I don't actually play secondlife anymore. I was just looking for some little illusion of freedom. Silly me.

I wholeheartedly concur. Please join us at your earliest convenience in the continuing discussion about this topic in the far more relevant thread at /341/0d/275405/7.html


I disagree, it's too early yet to give up hope on BL08. The very fact that Dusty has released a clear-cut and IMO very reasonable statement on Mature vs PG policies this early in the game gives me hope that some positive lessons have been learned from BL07 and SL5B.

The slightly mis-located* ongoing discussion here about forum censorship with Katt (who is not part of the BL event crew) should not reflect negatively on the work Dusty is putting in to drumming up enthusiasm for Burning Life and answering questions.



*I may say "slightly mis-located" but in fact for those who were burned badly at BL07 and/or SL5B, any whiff of heavy-handed censorship makes this topic feel entirely relevant to the BL08 thread. Still, I would encourage all concerned to move this conversation to the Forum Guidelines thread. Gol'durnit, I /want/ to get excited about Burning Life this year! ;-P

No offense intended, I'm sorry if any of you felt that my moderation was an attempt to shut down conversations about Burning Life, it's not the case at all. I do have to ask you all to try to stick within forum guidelines. In the spirit of sharing:

These are the links from the Wiki
( http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Burning_Life )

Burning Life

* vburn.org Resident Resources Website
http://vburn.org/
* Second Life Forum for Burning Life To discuss the event and preparations (you're reading it: /invalid_link.html )


Additional Burning Life Links

* Burning Life History Past Burning Life Events
http://secondlife.wikia.com/Burning_Life
* Burning Life Flickr Group Post Burning Life Event images here
http://www.flickr.com/groups/burninglife/
* BurningLife.com Unofficial SL Burning Life Festival Commentary Blog
http://burninglife.com/


Burning Man Links and references

* Burning Man website Annual Art, Fire and Community festival
http://www.burningman.com/
* Burning Man on the Wiki Wiki Look- Up
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning_man
* BurningMan Image Gallery Images from Burning Man
http://images.burningman.com/
* Ten Principles Of Burning Man 10 Reasons why
http://regionals.burningman.com/network_principles.html

bah... will do it myself.... bleep..... bleep..... bleepty bleep..... bleep bleep.


Now　I feel safe that I wont disobey any new 'guidelines'

bump

LOL and they thought the bloggers were bad. Now they have a Cartel to deal with...

I sent my form in yesterday and received the port potty package almost immediately
didn't have to sign into any other pages, maybe try re-submitting the form.
Or contacting one of the organisers inworld to make sure they register your interest.

Consistency is your friend on issues like this.

Double Bump.
I volunteered too then hit that login page it'd be nice to know if my application went through.

Somebody in the inworld group asked about something similar this morning, sounded like the sign-up you saw might have been a Zoho docs account sign-up, which Poid said was not necessary for submitting a volunteer application.

Dusty mentioned over in the Theme Camp Proposals thread that you'd get an error message if something had gone wrong with your submission, but otherwise there is currently no message along the lines of "Your application has been successfully submitted".
/347/d1/277895/1.html

I'd hazard the guess that both your applications went in fine, probably just that they haven't got around to notifying folks of anything yet. But definitely follow up with the official organizers if you don't hear anything within a week or so.

I would love to help with this anyway i can !!! i have a few friends that would also like to b a part of this how do i get more info on this ?