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Burning Life '08 General Discussion

Kephra Nurmi
winged bug
Join date: 12 Jan 2007
Posts: 180
09-05-2008 13:46
Moin Dusty,

From: Dusty Linden
If you aren't in the group, get in it! It's called ".:Burning Life:."


*blush* and I waited patiently for invitation ... even send you a notecard explaining what I want to do in Burning Life. Please read it, as I did'nt apply for a parcel, but for the job of helping people to setup parcel media.

So I would need a "Parcel Setting [x] change music and media", "Parcel Content [x] return objects owned by group", "Object Management [x] deed objects to group and [x] manilpulate them" role. Perhaps also "Parcel Identy [x] Change parcel name, description" and the usual other return options to help with objects rezzed there by others by accident.

ciao,Kephra
Shimada Yoshikawa
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 76
Please release my parcel
09-05-2008 19:33
Please release my Theme camp
29-(156) Tropicamerica, Shimada Yoshikawa @ http://slurl.com/secondlife/Burning%20Life%20%28Reaper%29/176/207/24

and give it to someone who can use it. I appreciate you picking my theme, but the parcel I was given is inadequate for the size build I had planned. I may take my chances with the lottery or land grab if I am allowed. But at the moment I'm feeling a less than friendly atmosphere from the staff just because I asked for a larger parcel and questioned how and why things were done. I apologize if I offended anyone, this was never my intention. All I wanted was to do the best build I could for Burning Life.

Hopefully I'll get a big enough lot in the grab, if not, oh well. If I don't end up joining you all, have a great event.
Shimada Yoshikawa
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 76
* Calling for an artist's boycott of Burning Life *
09-07-2008 05:20
Well, just like I said, they found a reason to exclude me. When I filed an abuse report against ***edit*** for harassment and intimidation I was immediately retaliated against by Dusty Linden, who abused her power and interfered in my Abuse report against ***edit*** and claimed it was false (when she wasn't even there when I was harassed), Then used that as an excuse to suspend me for one hour when I was doing nothing more than standing alone in my home.

Then Dusty had the nerve to tell me I could not participate this year. Well fine Dusty, you and your "Mean Girls" club can have the whole playa to yourselves. You harassed, intimidated and abused me. You unfairly besmirched my character and my reputation and you will be held accountable by Linden Labs if I have anything to say about it. What you did was a crime, both in SL and RL. Shame on you Dusty Linden for abusing your power and shame on you ***edit***, ***edit*** and ***edit*** too for covering for these truly unpleasant and angry individuals. I no longer consider you a friend after hearing the lies you tried to tell my own partner. WHat is wrong with you people? Are you that bitter and vindictive that you have to try and destroy my relationship too?

You all literally have made me sick to my stomach this week. I've barely eaten or slept in two days because of all YOUR drama. (Apparently the people who are running this event are too important to be spoken too so beware if you have a question, keep it to yourself or they will ban you too.)

If anyone here really cares about ARTISTS and PEOPLE, rather than just some silly event to glorify Dusty, ***edit***, ***edit*** and ***edit***, then you will join me and others who will be boycotting Burning Life this year.

HARASSMENT AND INTIMIDATION IS A CRIME! ARTISTS SHOULD SUPPORT THE 1ST AMENDMENT, NOT WIPE THEIR FEET ON IT! BOYCOTT BURNING LIFE 2008!
Shimada Yoshikawa
Registered User
Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 76
Burning Woman 2008???
09-07-2008 09:16
This is really blatant sexual discrimination. After reviewing the names and profiles of the Theme camp awardees I have uncovered the fact that it is almost 3 to 1 women to men. So out of 500+ potential applicants, the ALL WOMAN staff of Burning Life selected 38 woman and 14 men (minus myself now that's 13) and they even awarded a camp to an avatar with no profile at all Yay!

This explains why ***edit*** acted like I was lucky to get anything, because she would much rather have given it to another woman rather than a man, and I'm sure she did after I released it.

So Burning Man and Burning Life is now "Burning Woman", so tread lightly gentlemen or you could be the next man banned. I am so disappointed in all of you, this is really shameless. How many other men artists didn't even get a shot because of your gender bias?
Dusty Linden
Administrator
Join date: 2 Apr 2008
Posts: 31
09-07-2008 09:37
You are demonstrating right here, for everyone to see, why I decided not to let you participate at Burning Life this year. You were warned, not harassed and intimidated. You have treated the volunteer staff of this event like they were your paid lackies. I will not tolerate that. These people are giving their days and nights to bring this event to the community. I am the only one here who is being paid to take your abuse. Kindly stop accusing them. Kindly stop spamming the community. Feel free to IM me.

On the subject of sexual discrimination, please remember this is Second Life. There is no easy way to know RL gender. I assure you, our staff is 50/50.

You have a curious definition of crime, discrimination and the 1st Amendment, that I do not share. Nor will the attorneys that you keep telling me about— if they know anything about the law.
Dusty
Shimada Yoshikawa
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Join date: 9 Mar 2007
Posts: 76
Painfully obvious sexism. Double standards, Hypocracy
09-07-2008 09:59
Dusty, no offense, but everything you say is suspect to me now that I see what the real criteria was for handing out parcels and why you all acted like I should be happy to get anything at all. Because you all fully intend to make this a mostly female event.

No way to tell gender huh? It was pretty easy for me, I just went down the list and looked up the profiles. Did you know you gave one lot to someone with no profile at all? Potential griefer there, good job. Fair enough, maybe you didn't realize you were being biased, but there it is, 3 to 1 women to men. Unfair and discriminatory to many male artists who could have been selected.

You're under investigation and I intend to take this all the way to corporate if I have to. Neither you or your staff has behaved maturely or professionally since day one. I am not spamming anyone, I am simply discussing Burning Life in the appropriate general discussion forum. YOU on the other hand are making threats and insults just like your staff did. More threats, more intimidation.

Please follow your own rules Dusty or don't bother quoting them.

Edit me all you want, everyone knows who is responsible for this.

In the meantime, for the good of the community and the future of Burning Life in SL, you really should remove yourself from this event staff and turn it over to someone less gender biased. IMHO.
Hern Worsley
Registered User
Join date: 11 Aug 2006
Posts: 122
09-07-2008 23:45
Already seeing lots of great stuff going up all over the Playa and i think everyone who visits will be in for a treat.
Buckaroo Mu
Alpha Geek
Join date: 17 Oct 2006
Posts: 106
09-08-2008 07:50
From: Shimada Yoshikawa
ARTISTS SHOULD SUPPORT THE 1ST AMENDMENT, NOT WIPE THEIR FEET ON IT! BOYCOTT BURNING LIFE 2008!


This will be my only comment on this subject (although I'd love to say more): The First Amendment guarantees the Right to Free Speech. It does NOT guarantee a venue nor an audience. Too many people in this country forget that little caveat.
Kalel Venkman
Citizen
Join date: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 587
Amazing stuff
09-08-2008 08:33
From: Hern Worsley
Already seeing lots of great stuff going up all over the Playa and i think everyone who visits will be in for a treat.


I'll second that - amazing stuff going up already, demonstrations of visual effects you'd never think possible in SL and some really inventive design work.
Daaneth Kivioq
Wandering Philosopher
Join date: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 157
09-08-2008 10:13
From: Shimada Yoshikawa
... the ALL WOMAN staff of Burning Life ...


ROFL!!!

Forgive me Shimada, but you are pretty damn clueless.
Speaking as a male (RL & SL) member of the BL staff, I am kind of insulted too. We have a great team, and I certainly wouldn't characterize it as sexist in any way. In case you have forgotten - this is Second Life. In SL I can choose to be a woman, an anthropomorphic cat, a robot, a dragon, a llama, or an amorphous blob. Making baseless accusations on the apparent sex of someone's AV is not only wrong, its laughable.

See the rest of you on the playa.
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Dagmar Kohime
Yep, I'm good with that!
Join date: 14 Apr 2007
Posts: 110
09-08-2008 12:49
From: Hern Worsley
Already seeing lots of great stuff going up all over the Playa and i think everyone who visits will be in for a treat.


Absolutely right :) The talent that continues to show up at Second Life events, especially BL is just awesome. Makes me want to keep logging in.

Can't wait til opening day...whether or not I end up with a parcel :-D
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Arawn Spitteler
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Join date: 23 May 2008
Posts: 17
Trash Fence
09-08-2008 15:55
This year, I want a Trash Fence, so the bare nipples won't be polluted by any PG Sims.
Also, I'd like SVC-2931 to be unmisfixed, in time to deliver party wide teleporters.
Where does a Basic Account with No Payment Info on File sneak ahead of the line for a camp ground? I'm the reason the arts are celebrated.
Dancien Graves
Not Nice
Join date: 12 Sep 2007
Posts: 111
09-08-2008 17:14
From: Dusty Linden
Shimada,

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Dusty




:)
Iyoba Tarantal
Registered User
Join date: 15 May 2008
Posts: 279
Any way to get half a land-rush or lottery plot
09-09-2008 09:16
I don't know if any one has noticed but Burning Life cuts right across Rosh HaShannah. I'm also Shomer Shabbos. I'd love to have some Burning Life land so I can help others make tube dresses (Yes, you can wear a prim and it looks great or at least different.) and set up a small building area sandbox, but I'm not going to be able to be around a lot of the time. It wouldn't be fair to just set up and skip out.

I'd love to split one of the smaller plots or one of the larger one with someone who is keeping better hours so at least the plot stays staffed. Any ideas here?
Qie Niangao
Coin-operated
Join date: 24 May 2006
Posts: 7,138
09-15-2008 05:13
Perhaps now would be a good time to announce (somewhere?) the rules for art on Central Playa. (I'm guessing I'm not the only one who can't find such rules if they're already posted, and whose crappy machine couldn't TP fast enough to grab a first-come parcel, and didn't get lucky in the lottery.)

Is it 50-prim max, no megaprims, sim-friendly scripts, PG on PG sims, and... otherwise anything goes?
GavinLeigh Wake
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Join date: 8 Jan 2006
Posts: 38
Open Playa Art
09-15-2008 09:26
From: Qie Niangao
Perhaps now would be a good time to announce (somewhere?) the rules for art on Central Playa. (I'm guessing I'm not the only one who can't find such rules if they're already posted, and whose crappy machine couldn't TP fast enough to grab a first-come parcel, and didn't get lucky in the lottery.)

Is it 50-prim max, no megaprims, sim-friendly scripts, PG on PG sims, and... otherwise anything goes?


I don't think they are having any open playa art this year at the festival. Last year you could place a 50 prim maximum object on the playa, but I think they decided not to do that this year. Instead they created art spaces on the playa, with higher prim limits.

I couldn't find an official post on this anywhere... although I do remember reading about it. If I am wrong then I am sure someone official can chime in on this.
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Qie Niangao
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09-15-2008 13:35
From: GavinLeigh Wake
I don't think they are having any open playa art this year at the festival. Last year you could place a 50 prim maximum object on the playa, but I think they decided not to do that this year. Instead they created art spaces on the playa, with higher prim limits.
Ah. That would explain... so much. Anyway, thanks for the response!
Shadoe Landman
CnSL Owner/Designer
Join date: 23 Apr 2008
Posts: 30
Art Spaces
09-16-2008 03:50
From: GavinLeigh Wake
I don't think they are having any open playa art this year at the festival. Last year you could place a 50 prim maximum object on the playa, but I think they decided not to do that this year. Instead they created art spaces on the playa, with higher prim limits.

I couldn't find an official post on this anywhere... although I do remember reading about it. If I am wrong then I am sure someone official can chime in on this.


You're correct.
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Marianne McCann
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Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
09-17-2008 11:21
So I'm a newbie to BL, and I'm working on my site, and I find myself with a question after looking at some of the other works out on the virtual playa. What is preferred: a reality-based installation that looks like it could exist in Black Rock and following the rules of Burning Man, or a "NPIRL" site beyond the straints of the real playa? What's best to aim for?
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Kathy Morellet
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Join date: 26 Jul 2006
Posts: 809
09-17-2008 14:22
Well, I've never been to Burning Life before and I know nothing about Burning Man but, my take would be that SL is _not_ RL so I would go for the "NPIRL" build while keeping the concept behind Burning Man in mind.

And, if that makes no sense at all then just don't mind me ;)
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Join date: 17 Nov 2007
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09-17-2008 15:26
From: Marianne McCann
So I'm a newbie to BL, and I'm working on my site, and I find myself with a question after looking at some of the other works out on the virtual playa. What is preferred: a reality-based installation that looks like it could exist in Black Rock and following the rules of Burning Man, or a "NPIRL" site beyond the straints of the real playa? What's best to aim for?
I did both. =^-^=
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Shadoe Landman
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Join date: 23 Apr 2008
Posts: 30
Realistic vs. Art
09-17-2008 23:01
From: Marianne McCann
So I'm a newbie to BL, and I'm working on my site, and I find myself with a question after looking at some of the other works out on the virtual playa. What is preferred: a reality-based installation that looks like it could exist in Black Rock and following the rules of Burning Man, or a "NPIRL" site beyond the straints of the real playa? What's best to aim for?


I've seen plenty of both. Mine's a combination. I think it can be crazy as long as it's artistic. Mainly they don't want you "camping" in a plain brick building that's neither art nor realistic for a temporary campsite. I haven't been to Burning Man, but I looked into it and it has lots of art camps.
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Marianne McCann
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09-18-2008 06:43
From: Shadoe Landman
I've seen plenty of both. Mine's a combination. I think it can be crazy as long as it's artistic. Mainly they don't want you "camping" in a plain brick building that's neither art nor realistic for a temporary campsite. I haven't been to Burning Man, but I looked into it and it has lots of art camps.


Okay, looks like I'll be doin a combination of both. I like the idea of working within some of the RL constraints that would be present on the actual playa. Nice to not have near as much dust an stuff. ;-)
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Gumby Roffo
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Join date: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 26
09-19-2008 00:39
From: Shadoe Landman
I've seen plenty of both. Mine's a combination. I think it can be crazy as long as it's artistic. Mainly they don't want you "camping" in a plain brick building that's neither art nor realistic for a temporary campsite. I haven't been to Burning Man, but I looked into it and it has lots of art camps.


What may appear as a brick building to you , may be someones interpretation of the theme. There are varing skill levels amungst the plot holders, Some good, some great.
I have seen a build on the playa with 5-6 prims that has a very strong message, just put together beatifully.

Oh and we campped last year with out problems !
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09-19-2008 01:20
From: Buckaroo Mu
This will be my only comment on this subject (although I'd love to say more): The First Amendment guarantees the Right to Free Speech. It does NOT guarantee a venue nor an audience. Too many people in this country forget that little caveat.


QFT.

Technically, it doesn't even protect free speech from non-government entities, it just stipulates that the government can't pass laws repressing it. In a private venue the company can tell you to STFU as they see fit.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech . . ."
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