Talk me out of adopting a child
|
Toy LaFollette
I eat paintchips
Join date: 11 Feb 2004
Posts: 2,359
|
12-15-2008 22:05
From: Ponsonby Low I don't mean to pry, and I'm not actually asking for information. But it seems disingenuous to say that Avoiding Sexual Things is 'the' reason for having a child avatar. I mean, there's no difficulty in avoiding sexual things in SL. It's quite easy--just don't go to places with 'XXX' or body parts in the description. Couldn't be simpler, really. and I find it easier still when being a child av.... I simply dont wish to take part in it.... my parents may, I dunno  It boils down to what each of us are comfortable with and what each of us wants SL to be.
_____________________
"So you see, my loyalty lies with Second Life, not with Linden Lab. Where I perceive the actions of Linden Lab to be in conflict with the best interests of Second Life, I side with Second Life."-Jacek
|
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
|
12-15-2008 22:06
From: Bella Posaner Any kid AV's willing to say how old they are in RL? My normal response is simply "over 18." I'll add to it that I've existed since the late 1960s, IRL. This should surprise no one who has ever looked in my store before - this is why my focus tends to be on toys a child of the 1970s mighta grooved on.  From: Jedi Quintessa do the kid avs have sex because that would make it abnormal?
serious question i would like to know I don't "have sex" in SL, nor do I do the "click me here and sit on this poseball" that passes for sex in SL. I'm not here to do that. In fact, I could go so far as to say that in playing a kid I'm also sending a message that I'm not interested in having sexual contact in here. From: Jig Chippewa So (asking with seriousness) how does it work? I mean, how do you interact? Is it play or do you react liek adults to situations? Do you meet everyday? Are you an alt and is there an adult Marianne who has sex or fights goblins or whatever? I mean, I have a partner in sl and we talk about real issues we encounter in our day to day work lives and existence. Can you do that? By putting aside the cloak of infancy? I am not coming down on child avatars here - I am just wondering what is "solved" or supplied in teh adoption. Much like any other role play, AFAIK. We act out out lives in chat. If there is a need to go OOC, we're chat in parentheticals or put it between asterisks (different people have different preferences). We'll also often IM OOC. We will definitely talk about our RLs at times, but much like "Lord Spampire of the Dark Realm" isn't going to break RP to talk about mowing his lawn, I'm not going to go on about my taxes without making it clear I'm OOC. It can vary for others, but that tends to work well for us. I note it can get muddled when a parent logs in after getting home from work, and some of the RL can get mixed into the overall a lot more than, say, other RP scenarios. Likewise, when I am working (you see, I'm not *jes* a RP character, I'm also a professional builder and store owner!) in the workshops, or with my work bosses, or whatever, I tend to stay OOC. I am not an alt: I am a main. Heck, I doubt I'd have time for an alt. The "adult marianne" is behind the keyboard, and she has her own life to attend to. She doesn't fight Goblins. Besides her SL daddy is part of the horde over on WoW, so it wouldn't be polite. 
_____________________
  "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world  " - Prospero Linden
|
Adz Childs
Artificial Boy
Join date: 6 Apr 2006
Posts: 865
|
12-15-2008 22:24
who brought up sex and why?
_____________________
http://slnamewatch.com — Second Life Last Name Tracking — Email Alerts — Famous People Lookup — http://adz.secondlifekid.com/ — Artificial Boy — Personal Blog From: Tofu Linden Hmm, there's nothing really helpful there, but thanks for pasting.
|
Shelley Galicia
Registered User
Join date: 8 Aug 2008
Posts: 41
|
12-15-2008 22:32
From: Adz Childs who brought up sex and why? Right. It's only Monday. Let's save that for a Friday thread. 
|
Marianne McCann
Feted Inner Child
Join date: 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 7,145
|
12-15-2008 22:32
From: Adz Childs who brought up sex and why? An *interesting* point, Adz. This was a thread about adopting SL kids, ya?
_____________________
  "There's nothing objectionable nor illegal in having a child-like avatar in itself and we must assume innocence until proof of the contrary." - Lewis PR Linden "If you find children offensive, you're gonna have trouble in this world  " - Prospero Linden
|
Tod69 Talamasca
The Human Tripod ;)
Join date: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 4,107
|
12-15-2008 22:34
Given the stigma the rest of the Real World puts on child avatars, I'd avoid it.
Not that I have anything against people RP'ing being kids.
It's Second Life. Indulge your fantasies. Just remember the Real World repercussions if discovered.
_____________________
really pissy & mean right now and NOT happy with Life.
|
Adz Childs
Artificial Boy
Join date: 6 Apr 2006
Posts: 865
|
12-15-2008 22:39
Found it! From: Jig Chippewa ... I understand why peopel wanna roleplay sex in all manner of situations (been there, done that and liked that) but adoption is just too - well, I'll say it - creepy. ... Yeah I've been there done that too. I guess I don't need to tell you that imagination(tm) is powerful. But, believe it or not, it's not just for fantasy sex!
_____________________
http://slnamewatch.com — Second Life Last Name Tracking — Email Alerts — Famous People Lookup — http://adz.secondlifekid.com/ — Artificial Boy — Personal Blog From: Tofu Linden Hmm, there's nothing really helpful there, but thanks for pasting.
|
Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
|
12-15-2008 23:27
From: Shelley Galicia 49.
Surprised? Just curious where the question would lead to or what you were expecting. Thanks for answering the question, no real reason for asking other than curiosity. I don't quite know what I was expecting, I guess I expected that most would be in 30+
|
Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
|
12-15-2008 23:29
From: Adz Childs who brought up sex and why? I think it's a question that most people, who don't understand about the child AV thing, would naturally be wondering, I admit I was.
|
Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
|
12-15-2008 23:32
I'm usually of the mind set, 'each to their own' but I have to agree with Jig, I find it creepy too. Maybe that's because I don't understand it, it just seems really messed up to me.
|
Oryx Tempel
Registered User
Join date: 8 Nov 2006
Posts: 7,663
|
12-15-2008 23:49
From: Czari Zenovka Which one is Trout? I miss his posts  Trout has left the SL Forum. You can find him over at SLU.  He says hi. [Edited for brevity.]
|
Ulvhedin Teardrop
Registered User
Join date: 14 Sep 2008
Posts: 22
|
12-16-2008 00:45
lolz
|
Loren Twine
Registered User
Join date: 27 Jul 2008
Posts: 45
|
12-16-2008 00:55
From: Bella Posaner Any kid AV's willing to say how old they are in RL? 32. I'm not in SL to be adopted, I'm just here to be. (As for the question about sex... Ew.)
|
ThereWasNo Tomorrow
Registered User
Join date: 4 Jul 2008
Posts: 13
|
12-16-2008 01:06
come on it's the fantasy of some people and it's a roleplaying just don't ruin it XD
|
Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 8,839
|
12-16-2008 01:52
From: Bella Posaner Oh what bollix, I don't have kids in RL and I can see the point, this has nothing to do with having kids in RL or not. If you read more carefully, you would see that I wasn't directing this comment at you, and that it related to a claim of rl expertise, not personal views on the advisability of what might be a 21 year old guy pretending to be a woman "adopting" perhaps a 60 year old woman pretending to be a 6 year old boy. Pep (But if the cap fits, wear it)
_____________________
Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
|
Bella Posaner
Just say it how it is FFS
Join date: 8 May 2008
Posts: 615
|
12-16-2008 01:55
From: Pserendipity Daniels If you read more carefully, you would see that I wasn't directing this comment at you, and that it related to a claim of rl expertise. Pep (But if the cap fits, wear it) Yip I know who you aimed it at, doesn't take careful reading. And I don't wear caps, hat hair and all that!
|
Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
|
12-16-2008 03:46
Once the topic moved to food, I thought we were done... shows what I know.
Your comments have helped a lot... including some inworld.
One thing I've realized (once again) is what a totalistic, black/white mind I have. I wouldn't have thought, for instance, about trial adoptions. I would have just dove in... gone whole hog, like I do with everything else.
But one thing occurred to me after all this, and that is that I don't need to adopt a child avatar to interact with one. Just this morning a little girl and I chatted, and she sold me a goldfish. It was nice, and it was enough for me.
The fact that seeing a child avatar stimulates a maternal feeling in me doesn't mean that I actually have to be that child's mother. Obvious probably to all of you, but I'm a little slow sometimes.
In the end, I'm not going to do it. I really did want to get talked out of it.
But some things have changed. I'm not afraid of talking to child avatars any more. I used to avoid them. I went through the whole consideration of setting up a room and putting a swing set in the yard, and that was fun and interesting.
It's so crazy the way that SL has such unexpected things to do and experience. I never thought I'd ride motorcycles or skydive in SL... and I never thought I'd consider adopting a child.
I decided not to, but it was worth considering. It didn't hurt me... although it gave my friends some anxious moments.
|
spinster Voom
Registered User
Join date: 14 Jun 2007
Posts: 1,069
|
12-16-2008 04:08
Glad you made your mind up, and it's great to come across somebody who thinks so carefully about what they do. From: Key MacMoragh ... putting a swing set in the yard ... Nothing to stop you doing this anyway, for any passing kids, or just for yourself. I have a tyre swing which I love, and I only wear a kid avie about 1% of the time - I'll happily swing away in full evening dress or a robot avatar. p.s. sorry for the gravy hijack 
|
Avawyn Muircastle
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 528
|
12-16-2008 04:26
From: Marianne McCann My normal response is simply "over 18." I'll add to it that I've existed since the late 1960s, IRL. This should surprise no one who has ever looked in my store before - this is why my focus tends to be on toys a child of the 1970s mighta grooved on.  I don't "have sex" in SL, nor do I do the "click me here and sit on this poseball" that passes for sex in SL. I'm not here to do that. In fact, I could go so far as to say that in playing a kid I'm also sending a message that I'm not interested in having sexual contact in here. Much like any other role play, AFAIK. We act out out lives in chat. If there is a need to go OOC, we're chat in parentheticals or put it between asterisks (different people have different preferences). We'll also often IM OOC. We will definitely talk about our RLs at times, but much like "Lord Spampire of the Dark Realm" isn't going to break RP to talk about mowing his lawn, I'm not going to go on about my taxes without making it clear I'm OOC. It can vary for others, but that tends to work well for us. I note it can get muddled when a parent logs in after getting home from work, and some of the RL can get mixed into the overall a lot more than, say, other RP scenarios. Likewise, when I am working (you see, I'm not *jes* a RP character, I'm also a professional builder and store owner!) in the workshops, or with my work bosses, or whatever, I tend to stay OOC. I am not an alt: I am a main. Heck, I doubt I'd have time for an alt. The "adult marianne" is behind the keyboard, and she has her own life to attend to. She doesn't fight Goblins. Besides her SL daddy is part of the horde over on WoW, so it wouldn't be polite.  Help! What does OOC mean? I've seen this posted several times and I cannot for the life of me figure out what OOC means?
|
Gabriele Graves
Always and Forever, FULL
Join date: 23 Apr 2007
Posts: 6,205
|
12-16-2008 04:38
From: Avawyn Muircastle Help! What does OOC mean? I've seen this posted several times and I cannot for the life of me figure out what OOC means? Out Of Character
|
Pserendipity Daniels
Assume sarcasm as default
Join date: 21 Dec 2006
Posts: 8,839
|
12-16-2008 04:40
From: Avawyn Muircastle Help! What does OOC mean? I've seen this posted several times and I cannot for the life of me figure out what OOC means? OOC = Out Of Character and it describes when you are typing/talking/generally behaving in a manner which is inconsistent with your current role play. Usefully indicated by double parentheses ((OOC words)) in chat. By the way - this must be the nicest thread (overall) I have ever read in RA. I am delighted (although I can not say that I have helped in any way, other than to offer the sort of conversational diversions that are sometimes of assistance when considering weighty moral issues - white gravy or brown?) that you have been able to make a better decision than otherwise. If only rl decisions were as considered, much less some of the nonsense that is battled about here. Pep (Goodwill to all men - and women - and men pretending to be women - and . . . oh you know what I mean)
_____________________
Hypocrite lecteur, — mon semblable, — mon frère!
|
Avawyn Muircastle
Registered User
Join date: 24 Jul 2008
Posts: 528
|
12-16-2008 04:46
From: Pserendipity Daniels OOC = Out Of Character and it describes when you are typing/talking/generally behaving in a manner which is inconsistent with your current role play. Usefully indicated by double parentheses ((OOC words)) in chat. By the way - this must be the nicest thread (overall) I have ever read in RA. I am delighted (although I can not say that I have helped in any way, other than to offer the sort of conversational diversions that are sometimes of assistance when considering weighty moral issues - white gravy or brown?) that you have been able to make a better decision than otherwise. If only rl decisions were as considered, much less some of the nonsense that is battled about here. Pep (Goodwill to all men - and women - and men pretending to be women - and . . . oh you know what I mean) Thanks Pep and Gabrielle. Now I understand what the above poster was saying.
|
Jig Chippewa
Fine Young Cannibal
Join date: 30 Oct 2006
Posts: 5,150
|
12-16-2008 05:08
From: Gabriele Graves In reality I am not, it seems more that you home in on something harmless and want to make those who participate feel bad when in fact it is very innocent. Then if you "feel bad" - is it "very innocent"? I know I never feel "innocent" for most of teh time. And asking questions is just me.
_____________________
Fine Young Cannibal
|
Imnotgoing Sideways
Can't outlaw cute! =^-^=
Join date: 17 Nov 2007
Posts: 4,694
|
12-16-2008 05:34
From: Bella Posaner Any kid AV's willing to say how old they are in RL? I was never born. (^_^) I always was. (^_^) I'm a demon goddess from the third level of hell and I use Second Life to connect myself to this feeble mudball and its meatsack residents. (^_^) It's 'real life' that's the game. (^_^)y
|
Key MacMoragh
grrr....
Join date: 16 Sep 2008
Posts: 659
|
12-16-2008 05:42
Don't be hard on Jig, people. I still might adopt her.
|