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Somehow the same mess here. I did no ticket, because I have actually only one single and maybe centuries old artwork with a hint of a single blurry nipple in a painting, hanging somewhere in a room. It would be useless for me, to ask for a swap. If you have *something* more adult you can maybe re-open the ticket, making an appeal...sometimes they've done it after some negotiations.

If there is no chance, then you can start to store dollars...and depending on how big is your land... - I saw once 1024 on Nautilus for L$ 400 000...hahaha. (And I would need to move all what I didn't abandon so far - one 2048 and one 8192 - but sure not for thousands of dollar, even not for hundreds).

The same bad joke you can expect on Zindra.

Hey, I avoided 4 months, or 4 months and 3 days now, to hate the so called Lindens.

But slowly...slowly it grows...anger, hate, all that.

K, beside this, it is like it is: fraud. A clear, simple fraud.

I am sitting here in Austria. A friend, lawyer, looked for free into the actual circumstances and the old and new ToS, if there were any chance to do *something* robust.

From my countries consumer protection law seen its a pure and exemplaric fraud.

But...

Nearly no chance to go through such a thing without ruining myself financially, not to speak about the nervs - not for a piece of BS and a bit HD space.

Anyway. I am over and ready with LL and I wish them... ***self-censored***...

They killed the whole spirit of SL and I stay only because of some nice things I made and the friends and artists I met.

Maybe hang, rezz, aaaaall things you have, vendors and whatever, and try an appeal, it worked for 2 residents before, is documented on the slapt.me wiki.

I think, reading the bombardements of MoTD's and blog-entries gives a hint about where LL is thinking where the money will come from.

They started to promote everything which has to do with .org, .com., .edu like the devil would be behind them.

well I will say Amber Linden worked with me during this... I just happen to be at the store when she popped by to see and inspect..

I bet they are working on a bunch now ... crosses fingers for others

sigh... strike 2

NM I saw your place...shame...

It doesn't make any sense for LL to turn down ANYONE. If 10% keep the extra land, that's at least an extra 30 regions worth of tier... probably 3 or 4 times that because most of the people are at low tier levels... that's an extra sixty to two hundred or so grand a MONTH just from not being too picky...

the sad part is they didn't seem too picky when they started.....I mean cheddar land anyone?

Oh! Then LL is saying you are fine on Mature land, right?

Ask them why your land only shows up with "Adult" ticked in the latest viewer if it's not suitable for a swap. Your land does not show up if I do a mature search.

I'm going nuts! HOw long between they inspect your land and when they actually do something with your ticket?

365 days

Thank you. You got my point exactly.
BT

I put mine in within 30 min on the first day....I got my response today.
BT

A transcript of Blondin's latest office hours is now up on the slapt.me wiki http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Office_Hour_transcript_-_Blondin_Linden:_7-15-2009

rather it was a money grab from the beginning or not, it certainly is now. In effect what they are saying is that if I want to continue to live bye the TOS that I signed up for and spent a lot of money on, then I have to buy new land somewhere else...definitely a money grab.

Read the rest...the next wave is a buy only wave..no more swaps. I WILL NOT BUY AND SELL TO MOVE. Come and kick me out..but they wont. The whole move is a sham. They will get a few vociferous vendors to move, they will show this ti the stupid US congress, then they will leave it alone until someone complains about their neighbor. And they will offer a great new piece of mainland at higher prices then they would other wise expect to get. This is pornographic...screwing people for money.

BT

I just put a giant penis on my front porch...I will now ask them to reconsider.
BT

I've noticed people are selling land on the mainland once they have moved to Zindra - it was my impression that if you swapped and answered 'no' to 'are you going to retain your land' on the ticket that you could not sell. A number of people have told me that it doesn't matter if you sell or not. I asked in live help today - and they weren't exactly clear on it either. Anyone know what the ruling is?

There is no mechanism currently in place on the regular mainland that can prohibit anyone from selling land that is in their name or that they have a group ability to sell. If you indicated that you did not want to keep your land on your Zindra move ticket, I believe all that means is that LL will reclaim the land before you are charged tier on it - or before the tier on your new Zindra land kicks in so you are not charged tier on both properties. What you do with it before that time is really up to you as it is still yours.

Edit: of course, it is possible that LL in their wisdom could always just snatch the land away from whoever you sold it to - one never knows.......

I was thinking I read somewhere that LL would be reclaiming your mainland for the swap at a later date... but I don't remember where.

You can choose to keep it or give it to Linden Lab. Those that chose to keep it can do what they want with it. Blondin said at the Zindra Allaince meeting that selling your old mainland was 'not in the spirit of the trade' (frowned upon by LL) - but nothing they will try to stop from happening. Some folks are greedy.
I gave 1000meters of my land away and kept 512M to be able to post PG events at a PG 'portal' on the mainland that folks can then Adult Verify in and continue on to my Adult Land.
I started a group 'Zindra Land Trust to take on donated tier to cover some folks who are not
willing to tier up when the Zindra tier kicks in.
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That checkbox for retaining the swapped land was always kind of hopeless. I knew when I checked it that I was going to dump more land than I swapped, but I would retain some of it and merge it with Mature parcels, so... what to check? Notwithstanding what Blondin said after the fact, about it being "not in the spirit of the swap," Jack had earlier said that residents could do whatever they wanted with the swapped land, specifically including selling it. So I said I'd retain mine, then gave most of it to neighbors, sold some at below bot prices, and rearranged the rest.

As Couldbe has pointed out, it's surely in LL's best interest that people *not* let that land go back to the Governor. They get to keep the tier revenue if it stays owned by Residents; if they have to auction it, there's no telling how long before they get a bid (another thread on this forum), during which time it doesn't pay for the server space.

Remember that Mainland tier even at the lowest, full-sim level, is just a little under L$1/m2/mo. With land prices as low as they are now, LL can't make enough from selling reclaimed land to justify letting it sit idle awaiting auction.

Mine too Mags since per the email I received when my swap was completed it seems to me that if you stated you didn't wish to retain your old mainland parcel LL will reclaim it 2 weeks after your swap date.

“After the two-week grace period, we'll return everything left on your old parcel (aside from the landmark giver, of course) and reclaim it.”

If you have a tenant in mature region obviously what they do in it is up to them, but if they are offering sexual services and put it in their picks with their home as the pick how do landlords stand, only thought of it today

Sorry I should make it clear
within their home