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Soar Wingtips
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07-14-2009 11:14
That is how it should be too
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Couldbe Yue
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07-14-2009 11:18
There is no land for sale on the adult region? you can still sell land but you can't put it up for sale as far as I can see. If that makes sense. eta: i've just had to resell land to shift it around some groups and it's still working for selling to a specific person I've got a block of 3072 that is waiting for someone to make me an offer I can't refuse.. It's actually 4808 but I'm not going to sell the waterfront access unless someone makes me a truly delightful offer for the lot. better still, go and buy some of my now useless mainland that has to go to the bots tomorrow. _____________________
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Treasure Ballinger
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07-14-2009 11:20
you can still sell land but you can't put it up for sale as far as I can see. If that makes sense. I've got a block of 3072 that is waiting for someone to make me an offer I can't refuse.. It's actually 4808 but I'm not going to sell the waterfront access unless someone makes me a truly delightful offer for the lot. better still, go and buy some of my now useless mainland that has to go to the bots tomorrow. What's your 'ballpark' (on the 3072 and/or the waterfront, not your useless mainland, lol) Or is that a no no to ask in public, what the ballpark is. Was just curious what people might get for some land in Zindra.....is ok if you don't want to say. |
Couldbe Yue
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07-14-2009 11:30
What's your 'ballpark' (on the 3072 and/or the waterfront, not your useless mainland, lol) Or is that a no no to ask in public, what the ballpark is. Was just curious what people might get for some land in Zindra.....is ok if you don't want to say. I have no ball park as i have no idea what it's worth. The neighbour offered me (with a straight face mind you) 1.5L/ sq m, someone else offered me 2.5L sq m but then there was that full sim that *wasn't* snapped up for 15L/sq m. I don't think anyone really knows what the value of this is until everyone has swapped and the full on land sales/auctions start or until LL get around to telling the 50%ish non english speaking part of the grid. _____________________
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07-14-2009 12:08
As for the "front line people", surely they could have suggested alternatives to the absolute *worst* way to do it in such a way as to highlight that it was a *better* way to achieve LL's objective, and not just a good cry about banning the sex business from the (then) mainland. From what I have heard the lower level people WERE saying how better to do this to accomplish their goals. The levels above them would not budge. Despite what LL is consistently claiming, they seem to have gone into this grudgingly ... and chose to take out their frustrations on the residents that would be affected. _____________________
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Soar Wingtips
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07-14-2009 12:15
you can still sell land but you can't put it up for sale as far as I can see. If that makes sense. eta: i've just had to resell land to shift it around some groups and it's still working for selling to a specific person I've got a block of 3072 that is waiting for someone to make me an offer I can't refuse.. It's actually 4808 but I'm not going to sell the waterfront access unless someone makes me a truly delightful offer for the lot. better still, go and buy some of my now useless mainland that has to go to the bots tomorrow. So how come you are selling Zindra land, I thought you disagreed with that? |
Couldbe Yue
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07-14-2009 12:33
So how come you are selling Zindra land, I thought you disagreed with that? You've got the wrong person there. I don't care about that one whit. I completely disagree with the speculators getting land but LL decided they were ok with that. Let's face it, it wasn't done for any altruistic reason, the most likely reason is that LL want to make sure land isn't sold before the 2 weeks is up is because there's a likelihood of them getting more tier money. It certainly was not because we were up in arms. If it was then they would have put up the list of tickets with their progress status - which is where the most pain is. _____________________
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Soar Wingtips
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07-14-2009 12:39
So you joined the bandwagon, sorry confused, you are selling Zindra land, when there are people waiting to still get there land exchange, why would you sell if you did a swop surely you are running a business?
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Couldbe Yue
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07-14-2009 12:51
So you joined the bandwagon, sorry confused, you are selling Zindra land, when there are people waiting to still get there land exchange, why would you sell if you did a swop surely you are running a business? what bandwagon? ohhh you mean pretending to be a purveyor of smut to get a swap so I can sell it and make a killing? Absolutely. I only hang around here because I like watching the pain people are going through to try to keep their businesses afloat. check my previous posts over the last couple of weeks sunshine if you want to the answer to why I'm selling it. oh and I suggest you either step outside and get some fresh air or at least stop being so aggressively trollish. It's doesn't look good. _____________________
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Lias Leandros
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07-14-2009 13:06
ohhh you mean pretending to be a purveyor of smut to get a swap so I can sell it and make a killing? Absolutely. I only hang around here because I like watching the pain people are going through to try to keep their businesses afloat. _____________________
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Couldbe Yue
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07-14-2009 13:09
If you want out of Zindra then why don't you just stay on your 'useless mainland' and abandon the Zindra Land? I don't know what you're reading to come up with that idea but it's obviously not this thread. /me runs outside to see if it's a full moon. _____________________
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Lias Leandros
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07-14-2009 13:19
I don't know what you're reading to come up with that idea but it's obviously not this thread. ____________________________________ There is no land for sale on the adult region? you can still sell land but you can't put it up for sale as far as I can see. If that makes sense. eta: i've just had to resell land to shift it around some groups and it's still working for selling to a specific person I've got a block of 3072 that is waiting for someone to make me an offer I can't refuse.. It's actually 4808 but I'm not going to sell the waterfront access unless someone makes me a truly delightful offer for the lot. better still, go and buy some of my now useless mainland that has to go to the bots tomorrow. This is why I asked you why would you accept the Zindra trade and then sell the Zindra land. _____________________
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Brieanne Bomazi
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07-14-2009 14:28
____________________________________ This is why I asked you why would you accept the Zindra trade and then sell the Zindra land. Let me speak up for CB here. CB has adult land cause CB NEEDS it. What happened is her lots got split up and she wants them together. One lot is surrounded mostly by someone else. She wants to change that. Not sell outright and be done. She was trying to get her new parcels all together, as least as far as i know, cause CB been at this from day one trying to help make it better ect. ~Brie And an added note.... FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THE SMUT... WILL YOU PEOPLE PLEASE TAKE DOWN THE 20M high LOGOS, and Flashing lights, all your doing is adding to the lag, and general trashy look of an already bad continent. This was predicted to be a new ghetto... seems a lot of folks are going out of their way to make sure that's a true prediction. |
Innula Zenovka
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07-14-2009 15:01
____________________________________ This is why I asked you why would you accept the Zindra trade and then sell the Zindra land. |
Marie Nakatani
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07-14-2009 15:19
Thanks both of you but you shouldn't have bothered. This is an internet forum and there's always a group of people whose only exercise for the day is jumping to conclusions.
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Couldbe Yue
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07-14-2009 15:21
lol logged in with the wrong av.. and I've been so good about that for 4 months now.. Ah well, it's caught most of us at one time or another here..
To restate the previously deleted post.. Thanks both of you but you shouldn't have bothered. This is an internet forum and there's always a group of people whose only exercise for the day is jumping to conclusions. ![]() _____________________
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Lias Leandros
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07-14-2009 15:44
So sorry I was confused about you selling Zindra land. I think it was based on the facetious comments and the rude comment made to Soar when she asked her to clarify.
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Aarya Beerbaum
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07-14-2009 16:07
Yes I was not being rude I just wanted to know why you were selling land on Zindra, a comment was made that it was in seperate parcels, have you requested for that to be changed, now there is more land availible. I apologise if it is mainland you are selling
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Soar Wingtips
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07-14-2009 16:14
Apologies if I was wrong, I assumed it was Zindra land that was being sold, and seemed to be being offered on here.
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07-14-2009 18:05
Can someone explain to me the 4 digit ticket #'s I am seeing? ie: 4500 Mine is 4051-6534338 and requested migration on July 9th. My first 3 choices are gone. I have twice now added comment for new choices. Ticket still shows NEW online. I have not found reference as to how many days out they are. Thanks and sorry to change topic. We have been tracking ticket progress here since the Lindens are not doing it for us: http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions The last ticket we know of that's complete was filed Jun 29th at 10:17 (ie 17 minutes after tickets opened). Right now yours is the last ticket we know of, and you should expect at least a couple of weeks for them to get to you. In the mean time you can track progress here on this thread, or that wiki page. |
Wright Lomu
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07-14-2009 19:57
We have been tracking ticket progress here since the Lindens are not doing it for us: http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Governance_Team_Actions The last ticket we know of that's complete was filed Jun 29th at 10:17 (ie 17 minutes after tickets opened). Right now yours is the last ticket we know of, and you should expect at least a couple of weeks for them to get to you. In the mean time you can track progress here on this thread, or that wiki page. After reviewing the wiki, looks to me like the updates are at least a day behind. the 10:17 ticket referred to was closed yesterday. Anyone out there with tickets that closed today??? |
Tormented Twilight
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07-14-2009 20:12
I don't know if this has been brought up here yet but what is up with the flashing overlapping prims on the roads, the hundreds upon hundreds of prim balls serving no purpose under the uh realistic* sculpty trees, the weird lights on the roads which one has to wonder if they're necessary at all, roads in certain sims that peter off into nowhere, and some really wonky texture mapping/offsets/repeats in certain areas of the linden road (i.e. 5 grates one in front of the other...on *TOP* of the curb! Have you ever seen a grate on 'top' of a curb? I have not.) not to mention parts of the road that glow. I mean...the glowing stuff...that really gets me. I'm not talking about resident builds, I mean they actually glowed out the road.
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07-14-2009 23:12
There's doing your job, and then there's doing your job, I guess. My problem with these people (LL management) is that they don't have the business sense that God gave oatmeal. There are so many different ways to do what they want to do- ways that don't throw their entire customer base into upheaval. Surely they could have picked one of *them*? As for the "front line people", surely they could have suggested alternatives to the absolute *worst* way to do it in such a way as to highlight that it was a *better* way to achieve LL's objective, and not just a good cry about banning the sex business from the (then) mainland. There are a lot of good *business* reasons for LL to be doing this in practically *any* other way. You would think that LL would *reward* an employee that said "we can do this with a lot less ill will on the part of our residents, and a lot more effectively besides. here's my suggested plan, what do you think?" However, at this point, it is too late for there to be major changes in the way this is being handled. there is only time for *changes*, not major revisions of goals or direction. The fact that we didn't get something better than what is happening indicates one of three things. Either nobody thought of anything better, Lots of people thought of something better but didn't (or felt like they *couldn't*) say anything to the decision-makers, or the decision-makers ignored a lot of better ideas from the rest of LL and bulled ahead with their own toxic plan. I don't see how the board can be absolved in *any* of those scenarios. Either they are a pack of fools, or a pack of *malevolent* fools. The front-line people are either a pack of fools, or they are a pack of *frightened* fools (who think that going along with a customer service *disaster* is a good way to preserve their job- anyone see the flaw in that logic? No customers=No job) I'm not saying that it's all the front-line people's *fault* though. But there *is* an opportunity here for anyone with a good idea to process swaps *faster*. the way that they have been working on the swaps that they *have* been working on indicates to me that these aren't very senior people, who have to keep checking back with the "home office" before making a decision. The rate of swaps being processed seems to me to indicate extreme caution, or a severe staff shortage. Especially given that the non-English speaking customers will only be finding out about this in dribs and drabs, they will be processing swap requests until *doomsday*. And that's not even considering the *other* mature landowners (or even PG landowners) who deserve to swap their land for something that has a content rating at least *close* to what they signed up for. I think that LL will eventually have to do something for them too, otherwise, they will simply have too many cheesed-off customers, and lose too much money. In any case, it would be the right thing to do, and would insulate LL from legal action- which the LL board seems to be doing back flips to try to accomplish of late. My point isn't that I'm some sort of marketing/business genius whose advice LL needs to take to survive. My point is that I'm *not* a marketing/business genius, and even *I* thought of this stuff. which means that LL must be staffed and run by people with less business acumen than *I* have. A frightening thought indeed. ^V^ Beside the fact, that this has to be urgently quoted for truth, I allow myself the additional remark, that Linden Lab doesn't use their ressources to inform the people about what Linden Lab is doing, but people using Linden Lab's ressources to inform Linden Lab about what Linden Lab is doing, while Linden Lab doesn't use their ressources which we filled with informations about all and everything, to invite them to learn about what they are doing and to learn to avoid to do further what they are doing... Another drama is - while you mentioned correct and applicable their status being - fools - that we couldn't invite the management to watch TV with us, or too see modern acting in a modern theatre, or to enjoy watching modern dance, or to invite them into a cinema with a good program (a Fellini movie or something like that), or to visit a museum or a contemporary gallery with them, or to show them the internet in all its diversity, or to go with them into a well sorted library, because they would make drama's, calling the police and the national guard and the congess and mummy and pa' and grandmother and grandpa' and a priest, because they think it would be real, what they are seeing there on screens, stages, canvas, as sculptures, actors or even literature... And as I said relative often in my very early posts along the very early threads: we wouldn't be able to offer them a helpful glass of water, if they start to hyperventilate or to faint, because - of course - fishes and frogs had sex in this water before and this along millions of years, not to mention that all water on earth was used by zillions of animals, plants and humans before, because it is a never ending circle system... I still think, that they drink filtered and sanitized sand or small stones from himalaya-regions, if they are thirsty. Just to complete the quoted totaly true analysis, which I would sign with document-safe ink and many of us here too. |
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07-15-2009 02:22
I don't know if this has been brought up here yet but what is up with the flashing overlapping prims on the roads, the hundreds upon hundreds of prim balls serving no purpose under the uh realistic* sculpty trees, the weird lights on the roads which one has to wonder if they're necessary at all, roads in certain sims that peter off into nowhere, and some really wonky texture mapping/offsets/repeats in certain areas of the linden road (i.e. 5 grates one in front of the other...on *TOP* of the curb! Have you ever seen a grate on 'top' of a curb? I have not.) not to mention parts of the road that glow. I mean...the glowing stuff...that really gets me. I'm not talking about resident builds, I mean they actually glowed out the road. I can't imagine residents moving to Zindra are going to want to put up with that for too long. The grates to which you refer may be something different from what I'm seeing, but the things I see on the top of the curbs seem to be intended to represent photovoltaic panels, and light fixtures. Looking more closely at the construction of those funky superglowing lights, I realize that they're gonna look pretty dumb without glow, but the glow really has to go. We asked Blondin to get them to remove glow, along with the wacky light feature of the sidewalk potted trees, and the insane scripted road-divider prims. But really, the whole road system needs replacing to make it functional. God knows it's primmy enough that a one-for-one replacement would be easy and do a much better job of spanning the sim borders--even without using megaprims, to which the Moles seem congenitally allergic. |
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07-15-2009 02:23
After reviewing the wiki, looks to me like the updates are at least a day behind. the 10:17 ticket referred to was closed yesterday. Anyone out there with tickets that closed today??? This is why we keep asking for ticket numbers both open and closed ![]() For those that are worried about giving their ticket number, it is perfectly safe and nothing will happen if you do it is purely a reference number and of course one we can track as to the work being done on them so all help ia appreciated ![]() _____________________
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