New Zindra Blog Post

I agree, that they deserve something. But I can't go into details about what they deserve.

The front line Lindens that deal directly with customers...those guys have earned my respect for doing their job with friendly and professional attitudes under extremely trying conditions. The policy setting Lindens who set this debacle in motion and then apparently did zero planning to implement it deserve a public shoe-throwing.

My sentiments exactly and I hope that the lindens on the front line convey to the management exactly how the customer base feels, as LL doesn't listen to its customers, but me thinks it will, as always continue to fall on deaf ears in the boardrooms of LL as they plough forward with their next cock up.

Others have replied to this too, but I just wanted to note the irony in attempted to insult someone for spending time at one location online rather than another. When you say "in world" you mean Second Life, which is also on the internet. This is just a variation of someone trying to insult someone else by telling them to go outside, or get out of their mom's basement.

As an insult though - fail. Because the "just go outside" insult guy would laugh at you just as you're laughing at forumites.

All of that said - it's true that it was only recently announced within Second Life, and for months unless people heard about it through someone who did visit the forums, no one seemed to know about it. So maybe you should actually be grateful to those people who read the blogs and forums.

OTOH isn't it better than spoiling the view for their neighbors by putting up some skyscraper monstrosity?

Also maybe they haven't built it yet but plan to. People often put up ban lines during construction.

Linden Lab could have
1 - Sent a mass e-mail to everyone who is registered for Second Life.
2 - Put the message at the start screen and make sure everyone clocks a link in order to continue signing it. The Link would take them to the Adult Content Fact Page.
3 - Send a in-word automated instant message with a link to the Adult Content Fact Page to every account.
4 - All of the above.
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But they decided to make sure the 6 million person customer base remains in the dark about such a sweeping change. And then add insult to injury (by saying 'you should have read the blog') when thousands negatively impacted by this change complain too late.

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I just got a message from the guy with the sex farm near my mainland plot. He heard about the adult changes, but didn't think he needed to be in any hurry to do anything about them. I hope I've helped him get an appropriate sense of urgency.

Seen in light and realistic, we have it to do with Landlord harassment (LL is the Landlord), fraud, impertinence, incompetence, lies and a strategy to demoralise/discourage/confuse us customers in a psychological war of attrition along the months, also in present and for sure in future again and again.

On all levels including the economical level.

Beside this, we can add all what you said about information-politics: they have not the dignity and not the courage to inform all residents as effective as possible. This they avoid like the devil avoids the holy water. Again: they have no courage! Nothing.

The best we can do, is to play our things as comfy as possible, to believe them never again and to believe them never again a single word, also: to give as less money as possible to them and to hold distance to the protagonists of LL and to ignore them as much as we can, while making the best we can with the experience, tools and skills we have, to play that thing (SL) halfway in a way , so that it will be hopefully still fun and interesting, but with the company itself, especially with the heads of the company, the board.members and with the CEO I am personaly ready like I am ready with nothing else on this planet.

They have really luck, that no one knows them on globe. SL went through the medias in 2006/07, but "Linden Lab" is a No Name in the commercial world, a small nothing and afaik with the worst reputation in its own country, means F-rated.

If they were a big name, they couldn't act like this. The medias of the world would folding them to origami and throwing them and their zero-reputation into the trashcan of business-history, because they treat their customer base like dirt under their feet-nails.

This is seen from a paying customer view and we have all legitimations and rights to see it as it is, because we are the victims of this mess - our only problem as creative people is, that we have no adequate alternative platform to build a similar world on HD's to design and express what we can design and express.

Enough said again.

One thing that LL seems to have done right- The "Ray Berdeyna" land in Yardol, and the land belonging to the person who sold it to "looli" in the first place, were "abandoned" by Sejong Linden on 12 july for "land abuse".

Anyone know the whole story?

^V^

Well said Limonella... not to mention.. on my land, we have people that rent space for private homes/sky boxes. While the lots are marked... Private residence, doesn't stop folks from wandering into private homes and making themselves comfy. Adding ban lines to these parcels means we don't have *security* orbs running, means less scripts, and less lag. Our sim, Rhianna, is set up, if your walking, there are *walk* ways between the ban lines to the back, and all the ocean out front is open. Its a no-added-lag solution to a common problem.

Speaking of spoiling views.. i SWEAR i think some people are just throwing the NASTIEST builds up they can, for whatever reason. You would think.. new sim, lets all do it right, but apparently that's just asking too much.

~brie

heh- that's why our build is so far a bunch of beach and a couple of sea-side rocks and water builds and a couple of bodies lying around the beach. (building is thirsty work, after all )

We're coming up with something new for the new land- something that goes with it and compliments it. If we want to use the same stuff we had in the other sim, we have skyboxes for that.


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We never use ban lines and dislike orbs, our tenants have hippo security using a white/black box system. In the adult region we are using no public access while building, when we are not there working it goes back to access for all and will be when completed.

I noticed the news about this land here along the last days. Jack said, they will act now strict against cheaters. Maybe he and/or G-team tried it polite, maybe resident didn't react and *poof* the land is gone back into the available pool.

This is ok and there are not much problems with the puppets on the strings, like J. and B. and H. (maybe except S. hahaha) - but the masters of the puppets are the original problem.

J. and B. are since new in kind of peace-keeping mode, still in a very tricky rhetoric way..., but somehow they try to hold things low. Otoh they wouldn't revolt, they are loyal to the gods - it is their income and ever when they are in good mood they like to play a bit cat and mouse with us too..., but they are not the main target of critics. The fish stinks from the head, as ever since a Million years

Got definite reply that the non adult side of business cannot be allocated land to be with the adult business, if it fits on existing then that is ok, hope that helps other people too.

You mean if someone has a build that's partly adult they have to split it? That's... whacko.

I think I know where you can pull some shoes from, to throw.

(Sorry, couldn't resist!)

Actually I haven't seen a case of shoeass in quite a long time...

That's at odds with what they have done so far. Several full sims have been moved, which contain an adult club plus residential and shopping. I think as long as a parcel has adult content, you can move the whole parcel.


Side note:

Ive made a Zindra wiki page, with snapshots as it has been developed:

https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Zindra
https://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Zindra

This is not what a lot of us were told.. i believe the difference is the actual *land owner*. All my land holdings (business, shops, rentals) were owned by the Adult group.. if all your land is owned by group, they will (read SHOULD) allow you to consolidate your land.

Although, we all know sometimes rules are made up/changed as they go.

What i am actually waiting for.. seeing as it was only briefly announced in world, is what is going to happen when they require a new agreement to the tos and the vast majority of SL residents find out what we have all known for months... and this whole circus starts over again... thats when we have the benefit of having gone thru this now... imagine what will happen when the rest of SL finds out...
Example...

I took my alt to a free sex location...38 people on the SIM, not ONE had any idea what i was talking about, including the owner... who informed me that His mature land was fine for what he did, and he would NOT be moving... and *quote* I don't know where you got your info, but that was a rumor.. it will never happen *end-quote*. I sent him to the slaptme wiki... and didn't hear back. I do not think The higher ups in SL have ANY clue whats coming when it goes *global* to everyone.

~brie

Yeh, maybe it means split it up on the new adult parcel, into m and pg sections, even cut the land to make separate ads for each area.

Yes, I'm afraid for them, very afraid.

What also scares me is the amount of private estates that likely wont flag to adult. I mean, why would they? What's the worst that will happen to them? In the meantime they get the benefit of being able to be seen in a Mature only search and if they don't flag, it makes this whole plan meaningless.

All I know is what is reported here in this thread:

http://www.slapt.me/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=143

I would imagine that these estates will eventually get AR'd by the anti adult brigade and forced to flag the estate as adult and I believe there will be those in SL who's whole purpose will be to find the adult material left and AR it.

@Brie: That is all you can do with telling those folks that do not know, if they then cannot be bothered to follow it up and check it out then more fool them. You can lead a horse to water etc.

@Soar: As Daniel says that is at odds with what has been said already as you can consolidate your parcels and move altogether. If people are refused in this instance then they should reopen their ticket and appeal imho.

I do not believe the sh*t has truly hit the fan yet

I saw the future of the Lab. Be prepared for a shocking truth before watching. Here we see the results of wrong business decisions:

http://www.reuters.com/news/pictures/searchpopup?picId=8897911

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