Real Estate Agent? how is that Adult content in any way or form?
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-10-2009 07:08
They don't let minors have Real Estate licenses! Are you some kind of realtor fetishist? _____________________
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Lasher Oh
Smelling the coffee
Join date: 3 Apr 2007
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07-10-2009 07:13
I am looking at those southern sims, and putting two and two together... That area of the southeast from Gurumachi to Loamford... Pre-made? One is already spoken for by a Real Estate agent? Cannot access them and a full sim purposefully placed between them and the areas we CAN access? Should I shuffle THOSE sims off my choice list? From Jack's Office hour yesterday ---------------- [11:26] Hasuko ; can we assume that the sims that are not open will stay not open for the reasonable future? or will any be released to public access within the next few days? [11:26] Jack Linden: Hasuko, hard to say because it depends on how much Land gets used by the migration period. [11:27] Jack Linden: It would be nice to have those southern ones up though ---------------- So I wouldn't count on that archipelago being opened up anytime soon, but I hope I'm wrong ^L^ _____________________
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TumbleWeed Loopen
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07-10-2009 07:18
Soar...oh god, once again it seems I jumped to conclusions...............
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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07-10-2009 07:30
Good Morning all from and a wet and dreary Holland. Reading the last 2 pages of posts all I can now see is the real start of the infighting and I am sure I will cover points already covered in this post. These are just my personal views and ignore them if you wish but I feel they need to be said as we are not 5 year old and in kindergarten  My first concern is that people are becoming very suspicious of others and that is NOT a good start to these moves. I agree that the reselling of land just got from LL in Zindra is a big NO NO and from what I can glean when it is reported LL are stepping in and seeming to stop it as did Harry Linden yesterday. I hope that this continues until the sale of Zindra land via auction. Not a bad way of fracturing the sort of solidarity that we were (mostly) showing in the forums, was it? Still Harry seems to be on the ballI get handed note cards/emails from others regarding these changes and the chats they have had with others and firstly let me say that if these emails/notes are posted on external forums, it is NOT against LL rules that is why we are having no problems with LL and the slapt.me wiki or forums and posting this information. HOWEVER that being said I am sure most of this animosity can be avoided, however it is going to take all parties involved in this to start to pull together and work together. As most of what gets emailed to me is, when I read and make a few discrete inquiries because of misunderstandings, language barriers and some peoples ability to adequately articulate themselves and that is not a disrespectful take on others but just the facts. I think that the problem is that all of us are a little defensive- I know I certainly feel a little guilty having gotten my land while so many others wait. I got my ticket in at 10:06, and I went through more than 20 choices before getting our parcel in Yardol. But there are plenty of people who are still in limbo, and I don't blame them for being a little bitter. There are also a *Lot* of people who *don't know* anything about this, and I feel worse about them. If anyone asks why we don't have adult content up yet, the answer is that we're busy coming up with a new build and the sweet lady in charge is something of a perfectionist But I don't mind people *asking*. and I don't see any reason to get all pissed off it. As has been said WE, and I mean ALL of us should start to work together as a team and start to develop Zindra into a fantastic place. There is a group already 'Zindra Alliance' and I have posted details here about it http://www.slapt.me/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=133 people please first go take a look then join the group. It has been formed for all of us to use and we should use it imho. We have the once in a lifetime opportunity to build a strong and sound base for all of this. In all my time with SL this is the FIRST TIME that us customers have ever pulled together in a coherent movement against LL. We can see the BS that LL are giving us and it is public, we all know and realize that this WILL and IS happening to us causing a lot of pain and anguish for many, so we need to put our differences behind us and apologize to the ones we have pissed off and start to move forward as a community. Tall order I hear people say but NO it is NOT, we and I mean 'WE' and not I have built the slapt.me wiki into a wonderful resource and one that is more read than the LL pages on the same project, the Zindra Alliance has been created for all of us having to move to join, activities have been already suggested in the last few pages, so lets try and not turn Zindra into individual gated communities, rather lets take this one time opportunity and build Zindra into one big family, where we ALL HELP each other, we know there is going to be drama etc. but hey SL sometimes needs a bit of drama lol but each of us should focus on the future now and where we are heading. We are strong together and have a strong voice and we have slapt.me for reporting on and I will ensure that all the facilities are put at Zindra's disposal and that means all of you. I will create sub forums in the forums if needed just ask me, the wiki is yours not mine, let us ALL turn this into an advantage not a disadvantage and move forward together and remember it is not each other we should be turning our angst against but LL and that can be done in a professional manner also. I know many are suffering financially over this, we are that's for sure but I am not moaning at others about it, I am trying as hard as I can to turn it into the advantage and focusing on the future at Zindra now, so as has already been said, say Hi to your neighbor, not in a mistrusting way but a friendly way and lets start to build Zindra into a great community continent rather than one filled with mistrust and suspicion for all. This is a chance to show LL that we will NOT be beaten down but we will start to ALL work together and become even stronger through all of this. Thanks for listening to my ramblings, but I do feel strongly about this and want to see people working together and not all this fighting, suspicion and mistrust that there is is it all a dream for me, well I hope not and I do hope that things will change for the betterment of us all when we start to pull together. Just my opinion and thoughts though absolutely. BUt that only works if we all play straight with each other- otherwise there won't be any trust, and we might as well start griefing each other and flinging AR's around. I'll say right now that I and my group will be playing straight, and will try to be team players. We're moving all our operations to Zindra, and good relations with our neighbors is something that we'll value. Hopefully, many others will feel the same. ^V^ |
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Soar Wingtips
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07-10-2009 07:30
Soar...oh god, once again it seems I jumped to conclusions............... This thing has made me a wreck lol hugs |
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Museum Guardian
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07-10-2009 07:34
Also that person is a member of the Zindra Alliance, so I am not sure how much that group is involved in supporting such activities Hi, Soar! Zindra Alliance did not endorse these activities. We are an open membership group for the Zindra residents and our goal is to aid people through the swap phase and after that is complete to build a thriving community. We're open to any Zindra resident, and would welcome your joining the group. (Alt of Jago Constantine of Zindra Alliance - didn't realise I wasn't logged in as myself). |
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Mizery Minotaur
Pissed off with LL
Join date: 13 Sep 2008
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07-10-2009 07:44
I am very annoyed that i only recently heard of this land swap. And it appears that i will not be eligible for a swap anyway because I do not sell anything.
It doesnt seem right that my club with nearly 30,000 traffic and an average of 20 visitors at any given time is going to be "left behind" because xxx freebie resellers get priority. Fuck you Linden Lab. I am not going to pay any mind to this Zindra sham or your age verification. Come get me, I plan to continue doing with my land WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS LEGAL and if you dont like it you can jam it. |
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-10-2009 07:48
I am very annoyed that i only recently heard of this land swap. And it appears that i will not be eligible for a swap anyway because I do not sell anything. _____________________
Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/
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Mizery Minotaur
Pissed off with LL
Join date: 13 Sep 2008
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07-10-2009 07:51
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts.
And i have to many things to do already without the need to tp all over Zindra day in day out looking for plots and updating tickets. |
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Sling Trebuchet
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07-10-2009 07:56
From Jack's Office hour yesterday ---------------- [11:26] Hasuko ; can we assume that the sims that are not open will stay not open for the reasonable future? or will any be released to public access within the next few days? [11:26] Jack Linden: Hasuko, hard to say because it depends on how much Land gets used by the migration period. [11:27] Jack Linden: It would be nice to have those southern ones up though ---------------- So I wouldn't count on that archipelago being opened up anytime soon, but I hope I'm wrong ^L^ LL might have had a big Duh! moment by now. When I saw the best oceanfront going first-come to landlocked flatlanders, I put it to Jack that they would *HAVE TO* give waterfront to people swapping from waterfront. But ... they had no idea how many people like that were coming down the line. They had no idea how much waterfront they would actually need to make. They may have some idea now, if they took time to review the waiting tickets during the break in the allocation process. If they just open up those Southern sims as they did before, and it goes to anyone on a first-come basis, the shoreline sims will be swallowed. They must be holding back in order to encourage people to take flat green/granite But ... then they come to tickets that are swapping from and require Protected waterfront. The moment they open up new waterfront sims, there will be a flood of requests for them. They give it all out to anyone... and then... they come to more tickets swapping from waterfront... and so on.... If they don't begin to operate on a like-for-like basis, they either 1) Continue to create protected waterfront ad hoc, leaving empty landlocked behind, OR 2) They eventually begin to say "OK. You are swapping from Protected oceanfront? We don't have any of that left in Zindra. Here's some flat granite that we prepared earlier. You don't like it? Well here is some different flat granite. You don't like that either? Tough! You're SOL." Them's the options. _____________________
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Ian Nider
Seeds
Join date: 20 Mar 2009
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07-10-2009 07:56
I am very annoyed that i only recently heard of this land swap. And it appears that i will not be eligible for a swap anyway because I do not sell anything. It doesnt seem right that my club with nearly 30,000 traffic and an average of 20 visitors at any given time is going to be "left behind" because xxx freebie resellers get priority. Fuck you Linden Lab. I am not going to pay any mind to this Zindra sham or your age verification. Come get me, I plan to continue doing with my land WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS LEGAL and if you dont like it you can jam it. If you've ben offering an adult service of some sort and advertising it, you should be right. [11:21] Jack Linden: Renzo, commercialised can mean for sale, or promoted (such as Search) etc. Somethingbeing Adult but free and promoted would still need to move http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Office_Hours_Transcript_-_Jack_Linden:_07-09-2009? _____________________
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Viktoria Dovgal
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07-10-2009 07:57
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts. And i have to many things to do already without the need to tp all over Zindra day in day out looking for plots and updating tickets. The thing is, if you don't do the ticket dance now, and you do have a public place with naughty stuff, you'll be forced to either shut down or pay for adult land later on. |
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Meade Paravane
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07-10-2009 07:58
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts. And i have to many things to do already without the need to tp all over Zindra day in day out looking for plots and updating tickets. This stuff has been MONTHS in coming. Did you really not know about it until just recently? Regardless of what you hear "on the street," what LL means by "commercialized" is that the land is listed in search. If you're in search, you should apply for a move. Also, these forums are supoosed to be PG.. Can we keep them work-safe, please? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-10-2009 08:00
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts. _____________________
Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/
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Argent Stonecutter
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07-10-2009 08:02
This stuff has been MONTHS in coming. Did you really not know about it until just recently? _____________________
Argent Stonecutter - http://globalcausalityviolation.blogspot.com/
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Lindal Kidd
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07-10-2009 08:02
I am very annoyed that i only recently heard of this land swap. And it appears that i will not be eligible for a swap anyway because I do not sell anything. It doesnt seem right that my club with nearly 30,000 traffic and an average of 20 visitors at any given time is going to be "left behind" because xxx freebie resellers get priority. Fuck you Linden Lab. I am not going to pay any mind to this Zindra sham or your age verification. Come get me, I plan to continue doing with my land WHAT I WAS TOLD WAS LEGAL and if you dont like it you can jam it. Better change that position. LL can change the TOS at any time they please, and they just did, big time. If you own mainland on which Adult Content is publicly available (whether or not you actually sell anything), you need to put in a move ticket NOW, or plan on getting rid of the adult content, or just say to heck with it and shut down. I feel for you...we all went through this anger/denial thing three months ago when the new policy was first announced. _____________________
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Wynochee LeShelle
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07-10-2009 08:03
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts. And i have to many things to do already without the need to tp all over Zindra day in day out looking for plots and updating tickets. [11:21] Jack Linden: Renzo, commercialised can mean for sale, or promoted (such as Search) etc. Something being Adult but free and promoted would still need to move (said Jack Linden in yesterdays office hour) --- If you decide to file a ticket for the move, some of these infos can be helpful too: http://www.slapt.me/wiki/index.php/Main_Page If you stay, it can happen that they force you to move, sooner or later. edit add: afaik the deadline for tickets is the 24th. July |
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Sling Trebuchet
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07-10-2009 08:08
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts. And i have to many things to do already without the need to tp all over Zindra day in day out looking for plots and updating tickets. I believe that 'commercial' is now understood by the team to mean "In Search". If you are advertising Adult content for public use then you are eligible. However, it's possible that if today someone starts to pay L$30/week to advertise their sexbed in their skybox - and turns off their security orb - they might fail. On searching for options: As soon as they opened Zindra for viewing, I suggested that they mark the available lands as 'preparing for auction'. They do with new and abandoned Mainland - *before* it actually gets to the auction queue. It then shows up in Map and on the ground in purple. It can be like that for weeks before it eventually gets into the auction pages. It was bad enough finding parcels when all the land was 'virgin'. It must be an absolute nightmare by now. It would be so much easier if the unallocated land showed up in Map. _____________________
Maggie: We give our residents a lot of tools, to build, create, and manage their lands and objects. That flexibility also requires people to exercise judgment about when things should be used.
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Mizery Minotaur
Pissed off with LL
Join date: 13 Sep 2008
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07-10-2009 08:08
How am i supposed to request a sim when i have no idea what the traffic is going to be like there? Its not unusual to have 30+ in the club. Dump me on some sim with a busy store and there is a big problem- a problem that will negatively impact both me and the store owner.
Seriously I dont care about granite or ocean front- I am more concerned with the traffic level of the sim and there is no way for me to know which plots to elect as i have no idea who else is going to get dumped into the sim. |
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Valerius Constantine
*I* am adult content!
Join date: 5 Jun 2008
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07-10-2009 08:11
Word on the street is that the swap is only available to "commercial business" and Linden alts. And i have to many things to do already without the need to tp all over Zindra day in day out looking for plots and updating tickets. Advertised/public sexual content (have we heard from anyone who got a swap for violent content?) seems to be what wins you the golden ticket. ^V^ |
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TumbleWeed Loopen
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07-10-2009 08:13
lol hugs Thanks....I so need it, I've been all over the place emotionally on this mess for months now, none of them good. And it did VERY much seem that Gurumachi was "set aside" and appearances deceived me, yet again. I need to stop, I need this over with. I need LL to stop screwing up EVERY possible part of this plan! |
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Mizery Minotaur
Pissed off with LL
Join date: 13 Sep 2008
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07-10-2009 08:16
Because I dont spend my time haunting the forums and blogs. I spend my days IN WORLD.
Where do you work, a monestary? This stuff has been MONTHS in coming. Did you really not know about it until just recently? Regardless of what you hear "on the street," what LL means by "commercialized" is that the land is listed in search. If you're in search, you should apply for a move. Also, these forums are supoosed to be PG.. Can we keep them work-safe, please? |
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Couldbe Yue
one unhappy customer
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07-10-2009 08:16
How am i supposed to request a sim when i have no idea what the traffic is going to be like there? Its not unusual to have 30+ in the club. Dump me on some sim with a busy store and there is a big problem- a problem that will negatively impact both me and the store owner. Seriously I dont care about granite or ocean front- I am more concerned with the traffic level of the sim and there is no way for me to know which plots to elect as i have no idea who else is going to get dumped into the sim. that's the luck of the draw I'm afraid. LL don't care about things like that, they just want you to move. _____________________
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Mizery Minotaur
Pissed off with LL
Join date: 13 Sep 2008
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07-10-2009 08:17
Anyway, thanks for the "commercial" clarification everyone. I am not sure I am going to bother with this though. I bought my land as "mature" and in good faith. If Linden Lab want me to move they can come move me.
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Jannae Karas
Just Looking
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07-10-2009 08:18
How am i supposed to request a sim when i have no idea what the traffic is going to be like there? Its not unusual to have 30+ in the club. Dump me on some sim with a busy store and there is a big problem- a problem that will negatively impact both me and the store owner. Seriously I dont care about granite or ocean front- I am more concerned with the traffic level of the sim and there is no way for me to know which plots to elect as i have no idea who else is going to get dumped into the sim. Yes, this is one of the problems that will likely occur in some areas. That is why it is better for all, that Emigre's swap all of their land and take larger Zindra parcels, even if they don't use it all for adult content. Two or more popular clubs and another couple of high traffic stores in one sim equals lag and customer lock outs. Kind of like hair fair. Then the real fighting between business owners will start. _____________________
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