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07-07-2009 04:48
From: Lord Sullivan


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07-07-2009 05:11
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Yes and no, eku, I think. A great deal of what we now consider to be "fine art" was made for sexual titillation, as for example many of the nude portraits of royal mistresses that can be found in art galleries all over the world. I am thinking, for instance, of a really beautiful one of Nell Gwynn, made for Charles II, which was almost certainly intended to be royal wanking material:


There is a great deal of debate over whether the woman depicted in the painting is indeed Nell Gwynn. Often as not, she has also been described as Barbara Villiers, an earlier mistress of Charles II.

What is not a matter of debate, is that the painting hung in the royal bedchamber of the king at, the Palace of Whitehal. It was behind a secret sliding panel, disguised as a landscape painting, that had been created for just this purpose.

Before it's sale to a private party in 2007, the painting hung in the National Portrait Gallery, London, where it was titled, “Portrait of a Lady and Child as Venus and Cupid.”
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07-07-2009 05:14
Re: the portrait

She wouldn't make it as a star today, would she? Can't you just see the rag-mag headlines taunting her, pushing for lipo and/or weight loss?
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07-07-2009 05:31
From: Clarissa Lowell
Re: the portrait

She wouldn't make it as a star today, would she? Can't you just see the rag-mag headlines taunting her, pushing for lipo and/or weight loss?


Indeed, standards of "beauty" are much different now. Another image of Barbara:



Barbara Villiers was Charles II's leading mistress in the early years of his reign and became Duchess of Cleveland in 1670. This portrait depicts the King's mistress with her eldest son by the King, Charles Fitzroy, later created Duke of Southampton and then Duke of Cleveland. It is the most audacious of Lely's role portraits as it depicts the mistress and illegitimate son as Madonna and Child.
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Jannae Karas
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07-07-2009 05:39
And one of Nell:



A portrait of Nell Gwyn, who started her acting career at the age of 15 years and in 1669 became the mistress of Charles II, whom she bore two sons. The diarist Samuel Pepys, a contemporary, called her ‘pretty, witty Nell’.
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07-07-2009 07:05
The University of Kansas has land in SL, it's marked at PG, but they show 'adult' artworks there, it is a private estate, so do we expect to see one rule for one and one rule for another here? but of course I don't want them reported, for one of those adult themed artworks belongs to me and is a winner in a '30 best works of art' in the past year competition.
Scylla Rhiadra
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07-07-2009 07:52
From: Dekka Raymaker
The University of Kansas has land in SL, it's marked at PG, but they show 'adult' artworks there, it is a private estate, so do we expect to see one rule for one and one rule for another here? but of course I don't want them reported, for one of those adult themed artworks belongs to me and is a winner in a '30 best works of art' in the past year competition.

Well, of course, there IS a double-standard with regard to this, built into LL's rubric on Adult content: educational content gets essentially a free pass. That's excellent, in my view, but, yes, some sort of reasonably liberal approach should be applied to artistic content elsewhere too.

It occurred to me after posting Nell (or Babs) that a better Western analogue to Shunga might be the early 17th-century "I Modi" engravings, attributed (doubtfully) to Marcantonio Raimondi, after sketches by Giulio Romano. These were meant to accompany a series of 16 erotic sonnets putatively written by Pietro Aretino, and featured a variety of different gods, heroes and heroines, and other famous personages in different sexual positions. They were printed, so were somewhat more akin to modern porn than Shunga, but available only to a limited coterie audience. Copies were hunted down by the Church and destroyed; only fragments remain, although another set of prints, probably by Agostino Carracci, survived.




I have a friend who is producing an inworld edition of these prints. Here's a question: would I be allowed to sell such an edition at my bookstore in a Mature sim?
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07-07-2009 07:53
My goodness, I am pushing the poor moderators of this forum . . .

:D
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07-07-2009 08:08
From: Scylla Rhiadra
My goodness, I am pushing the poor moderators of this forum . . .

:D


Nah you remind me of my 5 yo grandson when he learnt a rude word then ran around trying to get attention by repeating it out loud. ;)
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Scylla Rhiadra
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07-07-2009 13:31
From: Lord Sullivan
Nah you remind me of my 5 yo grandson when he learnt a rude word then ran around trying to get attention by repeating it out loud. ;)

5 yo? I should tell you that I have never age-verified . . .

Gotta go! All my friends are waiting for me on Club Penguin!!! :)
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07-07-2009 13:34
From: Scylla Rhiadra
My goodness, I am pushing the poor moderators of this forum . . .

:D

There are no moderators. Haven't you figured that out yet?
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07-07-2009 13:40
From: Brenda Connolly
There are no moderators. Haven't you figured that out yet?


Actually Brenda, there sort of is:

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She closed a few threads last month.
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07-07-2009 13:55
From: Jannae Karas
Millie Thompson
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She closed a few threads last month.

Maybe Millie is an art lover? :D
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07-07-2009 14:00
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Maybe Millie is an art lover? :D


Actually she is an artist:

http://chusha.deviantart.com/
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07-07-2009 14:00
Last night me and my sim partner was looking over who has move to zindra. Now we are not wanting to move to zindra we are going for the island deal witch means linden labs would make more hard earn cash off us. But like ever one else we have to wait. Thats cool and all. Now what I have seen moved to zindra must be some thing along the lines of lindens friends. So its who you know not how it was set up.
A golf corse was moved to a whole sim. Kicker was there one was building where you can rent the clubs for the corse. Now how is that sexual content? When I asked the owner of the sim how is your gold corse sexual content? I was yelled at and banned from the sim.
Looking around some more. I seen maybe 10 to 15 shops that should have been moved for what they sale thats cool and all. But what seems to be moved in the most was rental homes. Now Jack said if I got this right they did not have to move as long as it was keept in side.
So from what I see and feel only the people who have linden friends are being moved befor any one else. FYI 1% to 5% ya right Linden Labs try 75%!!
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07-07-2009 14:04
How do you know, Jenn, that the golf course owner didn't have a sex club on their old land? What they had on their old land is the reason people got the swap, not what they put on the new land.
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07-07-2009 14:08
Maybe they play strip golf.
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07-07-2009 14:13
Er.. Balls.. Holes.. Clubs.. Er..

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07-07-2009 14:15
From: Scylla Rhiadra
Maybe Millie is an art lover? :D


LOL probably as she chooses what she doesn't like and locks them as she did recently with the age verification threads
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07-07-2009 14:15
From: Dekka Raymaker
The University of Kansas has land in SL, it's marked at PG, but they show 'adult' artworks there, it is a private estate, so do we expect to see one rule for one and one rule for another here? but of course I don't want them reported, for one of those adult themed artworks belongs to me and is a winner in a '30 best works of art' in the past year competition.



Congrats :) ;)
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07-07-2009 14:16
Milla & Meade....LOL :cool:
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07-07-2009 14:25
From: Meade Paravane
Er.. Balls.. Holes.. Clubs.. Er..

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Sex and violence :) Still we will see what is happening once the tickets re open and LL start on the slow ticket trail again :)

Don't forget everyone to keep an eye on the tracking page and add your ticket number if you haven't already as it is interesting to see the anomalies as they are happening. ;)

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07-07-2009 14:29
From: Dekka Raymaker
The University of Kansas has land in SL, it's marked at PG, but they show 'adult' artworks there, it is a private estate, so do we expect to see one rule for one and one rule for another here? but of course I don't want them reported, for one of those adult themed artworks belongs to me and is a winner in a '30 best works of art' in the past year competition.


The AR nannies will be doing the rounds I am sure, but technically if its PG estate or not they still have to abide by the rules and I am sure there will be plenty filing complaints as always, such a shame. Congratulations on the win though :)
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07-07-2009 14:50
From: Dekka Raymaker
The University of Kansas has land in SL, it's marked at PG, but they show 'adult' artworks there, it is a private estate, so do we expect to see one rule for one and one rule for another here? but of course I don't want them reported, for one of those adult themed artworks belongs to me and is a winner in a '30 best works of art' in the past year competition.


They do indeed have different rules, this was mentioned in the educators brown bag meeting, if it has cultural and educational value then the rules don't apply.
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07-07-2009 15:27
From: Ciaran Laval
They do indeed have different rules, this was mentioned in the educators brown bag meeting, if it has cultural and educational value then the rules don't apply.

this was all i could really find on it..it sounds like a case by case thing..

We may take into account whether apparent or reported adult content or conduct on a particular Region serves only an extremely limited or passive function, or an important educational or cultural function, and therefore would be appropriate for all Second Life audiences.
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