New Zindra Blog Post

The only thing that would have made any sense was offering EVERYONE who has mature land an equivalent parcel of adult land, or if that cost too much coming up with a less insane plan. They had no backup plan if demand was too high, none, so instead they changed the rules.

See my response to argent- I get some lube, and you don't- but we're *both* getting screwed, and that's the big picture.



On the contrary- I realize that many, *many* people are being affected by this. And we have had plenty of trouble with neighbors, landlords on private sims, and getting out Homestead sim yanked out from under us due to the price increases.

We have gone through the same things that everyone else deals with. except for maybe the whole "Either move, or go out of business, we don't much care which" cavalcade of fun



And I sympathize- I honestly do. I've said all along that *all* mature mainland owners ought to be able to swap, and that LL should award Zindra land based on size of holdings being swapped. Under the plan I've been flogging in notecards to every linden who would accept them, the land barons would have been the *first* ones served, because they had the most mature land to lose.

It don't object to your agenda- I actually suggested it back in march- you can search my comments on the Wiki and find them.

What I object to is being referred to as someone who has gotten some kind of *cookie* out of this. I did this because my partners and I *had* to to keep our business.

This is the 4th time we've had to close up shop and move to a new location, and it's getting *very* old.

And the "incessant complaining" has been *at* linden labs- for the past 4 months, on behalf of *everyone* affected by this. Forgive me a sigh of relief that I managed to get my request in fast enough to only have to submit *18* different choices before finding out that we are done with the land swap part and only have spend our time rebuilding our business- essentially from the ground up.

Sorry, but LL isn't doing me any favors- Some people might come out a little ahead on the land deal, but they'll be just as screwed in the marketing and traffic departments.

And some people will get *worse* land than before- again LL's fault for the "first come first served" idea.

^V^

The only thing that would have made any sense was offering EVERYONE who has mature land an equivalent parcel of adult land, or if that cost too much coming up with a less insane plan. They had no backup plan if demand was too high, none, so instead they changed the rules.

Well, if you're going to argue that extreme, I'll get back to my much earlier suggestion. Create a new PG continent instead of a new Adult continent. No one has to be forced to moved at all - problem solved.

Dream on honey, even when Phil was in charge LL had absolutely no intention of allowing its customers a say in what is going on.

After meeting a rather large cross section of the community down the years I'd rather delete and purge trash of everyone one of my items and walk away than let the community have a shot at governing.

Dream on honey, even when Phil was in charge LL had absolutely no intention of allowing its customers a say in what is going on.

After meeting a rather large cross section of the community down the years I'd rather delete and purge trash of everyone one of my items and walk away than let the community have a shot at governing.

Anyone else notice that all the full water sims in Zindra are Mature rating?

Wow. I hadn't noticed that. That means that there is mature land only 12m away from my adult parcel. Don't know how that will help in giving people a "predictable experience" when they look in my direction

When I go to a nightclub or restaurant or coffee shop in RL, I don't need to check the sign on the door to be sure that it is "Mature" rather than "Adult": I know that social convention and civility will keep social interactions within reasonable bounds. But it is almost impossible to go anywhere in SL, with the possible exception of PG sims, and not find oneself subjected to highly explicit sexuality of one form or another.

What bothers me is the people who say they are going to actively encourage making it a hellhole, if they do get land there. Who think it SHOULD be wall-to-wall porn. I don't think they can possibly succeed, but still, Zindra needs as much variety as it can get.

I definitely disagree on this. i've explored the mainland extensively, and while there are indeed plenty of it out there, it is not impossible to avoid it without even trying.

What's the point anyway for a provider of content that is not adult to go to Zindra ? You'll cut access to your place to all not adult-verified residents, reducing considerably your potential audience...

kk, fair enough Argent, and Brenda. Let me qualify then:

1) "Explicit sexuality" for me comprehends explicitly sexual language, even when it is not cybering or RPing. For example, last night at very popular hang out I know that certainly does NOT feature virtual bonking or public cybering, I was nonetheless subjected to an extraordinarily explicit description in public chat of a very graphically sexual online video clip. Frankly, I'd RATHER have been overhearing someone cybering . . .


So, yeah, sorry if I seemed to overstate my case. My basic point still holds, however: there are few sims I know that have a reasonable amount of traffic (I hardly ever get bothered at the empty ones) where I have not been, to greater or lesser degrees, exposed to what some would undoubtedly term "offensive" chat.

Please don't make such a connection between "porn" and "Hell".

Even if Zindra ends up being wall-to-wall porn because obviously it is the only content LL really wants to see moved, that won't make it a "Hellhole". Lots of christians watches porn and enjoy it, sex is a natural thing that doesn't send you to Hell, and if Hell was wall-to-wall porn many of us would have turned satanists just to acceed it afterlife !

What's the point anyway for a provider of content that is not adult to go to Zindra ? You'll cut access to your place to all not adult-verified residents, reducing considerably your potential audience...

What's the point anyway for a provider of content that is not adult to go to Zindra ? You'll cut access to your place to all not adult-verified residents, reducing considerably your potential audience...

Read: "It's July 4th celebrations this weekend here and we want the weekend off"
Gomez

That’s exactly what I thought when I read that too!

*Facepalms* holy crap! what are they thinking? "We've made you all wait for freaking ever, so here's a 5 day delay so we can go on vacation, when we've only processed the first *6 minutes worth* or tickets"

these guys are *so* going up against the wall if the revolution comes!
^V^

Most definitely. LL is famous for totally shutting down during Holiday weekends.

If there's lots of traffic in Zindra, it may prove profitable to open non-adult stores there. Zindra will pull traffic away from the rest of the mainland. Plus, you should have a higher percentage of PIOF/PIU residents there. Shops which deal in racy but not adult items (like fetish latex shops for example) will certainly want stores in Zindra.
I believe some varierty would be good for Zindra so you don't have identical clubs wall to wall strangling each other out of business.

and you lot do know that the land swap has been put on hold, don't you?

For that exact reason greedy land barons are grabbing at it too by gaming the system!

But don't worry.... now you can have 5 frigging days off to do something eles. Yea worry some more about your choices getting grabbed up.

Along with a few mini-baron wantabees