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Oryx Tempel
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08-08-2007 15:53
From: Colette Meiji
Poor Furries



Hey, they can wear wigs too. It's only fair... :p
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08-08-2007 15:56
From: Wilhelm Neumann
porn you can't advertise it i dont think at least this is what i remember can't put up billboards of nude people outside the place where the porn is i just put it in the post you didn't read it?


You don't use punctuation so I can't understand half of what you say.

But yeah...walk around SL for a day and you'll see porn in plain sight.
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Oryx Tempel
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08-08-2007 15:58
From: Chilly Charlton
All I have asked Linden Labs to do is either buy some of the islands back or give me a couple of months rent to figure out what to do with them.



Why would they buy back your island? If you sold someone a car and they used it to run over a granny, you wouldn't buy it back, would you? You certainly would feel no obligation to do so, even if they said "but it's SO UNFAIR! I don't want the car unless I can run over grannies. Sure, I could turn it into a taxi service, but that's too much WORK."


I think we're just splitting hairs now...
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Wilhelm Neumann
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08-08-2007 15:58
From: SqueezeOne Pow
You don't use punctuation so I can't understand half of what you say.

But yeah...walk around SL for a day and you'll see porn in plain sight.


but its not supposed to be there its um 'broadly offensive" and yes typing standing up means i tend to skp things like punctuation or it would not get done at all.
Bradley Bracken
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08-08-2007 15:58
From: Chilly Charlton
Yes,

All I have asked Linden Labs to do is either buy some of the islands back or give me a couple of months rent to figure out what to do with them.

Now it would be one thing if they said YES OR NO to these requests but they are SILENT.

I have called concierge.

I have submitted a ticket.

I have contacted Lindens personally.

NOT EVEN A NO OR YES ANSWER.

I have waited OVER A WEEK for replies and reminded them every other day.

In the meantime while I wait for information which I need to make decisions they continue to suck USD out of my account for tier. They will take another $300 tonight.

THEY WILL NOT ANSWER YES OR NO.


Now you're back to customer service again, Chilly. Which is it? Service or fraud?

You said it's not about the money so your decision should be easy. Close your account now BEFORE they take the $300 and accept your losses.

SL service sucks. No big news there. SL is extremely unstable. No big news there. You chose to invest money in an unstable, poorly serviced environment. You didn't know that before you invested? You should have done your homework.

I'm not unsympathetic. Some lessons are hard. Accept this as an experience, learn from it and use it to work towards having a bright and happy future.
Novis Dyrssen
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08-08-2007 16:00
From: Wilhelm Neumann
also it was advertising banned not the casino advertising pron is banned to i think in fact so it ageplay ads and a few other ads. Now me I didnt see that they would ban casino's although many did, but they have banned certain types of ads before and not banned the actual activity


Hm, I remember very clearly that they were referring to current US law when they banned the advertising. Granted, one couldn't be a hundred percent sure that they would ban the act, too, but again - if they said "This is shady with US law, ppl, do not advertise it because it might be illegal"... I would have thought it might indeed be illegal and spend a few thoughts of different means of... hairdressing. ;)

From: Wilhelm Neumann
In any event I think people were pretty mean in this case and his request expectation is not unreasonable and he has been here for longer then most of the avatars posting to this thread.


Maybe his request is not unreasonable. His tone of voice for sure is. Throughout this thread he has been pretty bitchy and speaking of fraud and deception repeatedly, suggesting to other users to "be evil". If I were LL? I wouldn't give him a single penny after this rant.

And he might have been around longer with other avatars, but this one is registered since January 2007. So if this avatar is indeed the island owner, he could not have bought it "years ago".
Oryx Tempel
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08-08-2007 16:02
From: Novis Dyrssen
I would have thought it might indeed be illegal and spend a few thoughts of different means of... hairdressing. ;)


Like calling it "hayr" in Places/Search?
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Wilhelm Neumann
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08-08-2007 16:03
From: Novis Dyrssen

Maybe his request is not unreasonable. His tone of voice for sure is. Throughout this thread he has been pretty bitchy and speaking of fraud and deception repeatedly, suggesting to other users to "be evil". If I were LL? I wouldn't give him a single penny after this rant.

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yeah i get bitchy too when 797897 people jump all over me and say strange stuff I think you would too in fact i was "snotty" at one point in this thread myself and for the same reason of 798797 people jumping on me and flaming me and I had no idea why other then i was posting like everyone else except i was all for showing some compensation for the mega hair sim
SqueezeOne Pow
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08-08-2007 16:03
From: Wilhelm Neumann
but its not supposed to be there its um 'broadly offensive" and yes typing standing up means i tend to skp things like punctuation or it would not get done at all.


You use your toes for punctuation? Tell me where you get your keyboard! ;)

But seriously, "Broadly Offensive" is kind of separate from advertising bans.

Ad bans=don't advertise it

Broadly Offensive=don't have it in SL. Period.

Anyway, recent LL history dictated that gambling was most likely on it's way out. All the smart business people put 2 and 2 together and started re-thinking their business models. There were a bunch of companies on WSE that had announcements to that effect after the gambling ad ban.
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Novis Dyrssen
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08-08-2007 16:04
From: Bradley Bracken
Close your account now BEFORE they take the $300 and accept your losses.


Can't do that. An account is closed only at the end of a billing cycle, in this case the billing cycle for the premium membership.
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08-08-2007 16:04
From: Wilhelm Neumann
yeah i get bitchy too when 797897 people jump all over me and say strange stuff I think you would too in fact i was "snotty" at one point in this thread myself and for the same reason of 798797 people jumping on me and flaming me and I had no idea why other then i was posting like everyone else except i was all for showing some compensation for the mega hair sim

WILLY!!!! PUNCTUATE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!! *I'm sorry for yelling*
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Domaiv Decosta
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08-08-2007 16:05
From: Chilly Charlton


THEY WILL NOT ANSWER YES OR NO.



I would take their silence as a no.
Novis Dyrssen
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08-08-2007 16:06
From: Wilhelm Neumann
yeah i get bitchy too when 797897 people jump all over me and say strange stuff


He was bitchy way before the strange stuff started...
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08-08-2007 16:07
From: Brenda Connolly
WILLY!!!! PUNCTUATE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!! *I'm sorry for yelling*


WE DON'T WANT HIM TO FALL AND HURT HIMSELF!!!
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Wilhelm Neumann
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08-08-2007 16:07
From: Novis Dyrssen
Can't do that. An account is closed only at the end of a billing cycle, in this case the billing cycle for the premium membership.


well they are also private sims I am not sure what you do if you no longer want a private sim and you dont need to be premium to own a private sim.

Can you just press abandon?

I actualy never thought of what one does with a private sim if they can't stick around to sell it ?

I dunno say you have real world financial problems and need the money to pay your mortgage because you got a huge paycut or had to get a lower paying job? do you just abandon if you can't shoulder the tier or will they continue to charge you even if you abandon your estate? (well i'm assuming that there is even an abandon option..)
Argos Hawks
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08-08-2007 16:08
From: Oryx Tempel
OMG so now you're telling me that hair grows on TREES?? My mother's last words, were, in fact, "Hair doesn't grow on trees, dear. Make sure you save every last hair just in case you need it."

Boy, was SHE wrong!

Hair does not grow on trees. I have seen it grow on strawberries though.
Novis Dyrssen
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08-08-2007 16:09
Uhm, if he weren't premium, could he cash out any money he made inworld? Not sure there.
Colette Meiji
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08-08-2007 16:09
From: Wilhelm Neumann
well they are also private sims I am not sure what you do if you no longer want a private sim and you dont need to be premium to own a private sim.

Can you just press abandon?

I actualy never thought of what one does with a private sim if they can't stick around to sell it ?

I dunno say you have real world financial problems and need the money to pay your mortgage because you got a huge paycut or had to get a lower paying job? do you just abandon if you can't shoulder the tier or will they continue to charge you even if you abandon your estate? (well i'm assuming that there is even an abandon option..)


I think you could sell private Islands pretty quick, Just contact one of the bigger Land brokers.
Wilhelm Neumann
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08-08-2007 16:10
From: Brenda Connolly
WILLY!!!! PUNCTUATE FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!!!! *I'm sorry for yelling*



i am typing standing up in short spurts my back is too bad today sorry but that's the reality of having a back full of arthritis and propping your keyboard on top of your monitor and refusing to use text to speech software. If i stopped posting everytime my back bothered me i would be posting one post every 3 weeks and would never ever communicate with anyone ingame at all (and no i'm not gonna get lazy and start using voice just cause it would be easier)

anyhow i will stop posting i can't stand still any longer (ouch)
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08-08-2007 16:10
From: Novis Dyrssen
Uhm, if he weren't premium, could he cash out any money he made inworld? Not sure there.


Yeah you dont need to be premium to use LindenX or Process credit.

Just "Payment Info on file"
SqueezeOne Pow
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08-08-2007 16:13
From: Wilhelm Neumann
i am typing standing up in short spurts my back is too bad today sorry but that's the reality of having a back full of arthritis and propping your keyboard on top of your monitor and refusing to use text to speech software. If i stopped posting everytime my back bothered me i would be posting one post every 3 weeks and would never ever communicate with anyone ingame at all (and no i'm not gonna get lazy and start using voice just cause it would be easier)

anyhow i will stop posting i can't stand still any longer (ouch)



. ... . .. ; . .. , !??!!

here, that should cover ya. ;)

Why don't you put your computer somewhere where you can sit or otherwise be in a more comfortable position?
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Oryx Tempel
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08-08-2007 16:16
From: Argos Hawks
Hair does not grow on trees. I have seen it grow on strawberries though.



Wow... I wonder how many strawberries it would take to make one wig, if you had to pluck those hairs one by one. Be a good job for campers, no?
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08-08-2007 16:16
From: Colette Meiji
Yeah you dont need to be premium to use LindenX or Process credit.


Ah, okay.

Wilhelm, using punctuation marks is hampered by a bad back...? *looks confused* My punctuation keys are just beside my regular ones... and if you can hit those... ;)
Novis Dyrssen
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08-08-2007 16:17
From: Oryx Tempel
Be a good job for campers, no?


Now THAT is a seriously cool idea! :D
Chilly Charlton
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08-08-2007 16:17
This rant comes after over a week of trying to communicate with Linden Labs directly and being given nothing but lip service and being stone walled and NOT having questions answered yes OR no.

I waited, believe you me I waited. When I say

"BE EVIL"

I say it not rushing off half cocked I say it having had patience and belief in Linden Labs that they could actually do what was right for once.

They do not seem capable of that. There is only one thing they seem capable of and that is:

"BE EVIL"

If they even told me "no there is no way we can do what is right and compensate you in any way" Then I could dump the islands at a stupid price and call it a loss. Right now I am still holding them waiting for an ANSWER.

But instead they act like they are going to get back to me with some type of answer and then they don't at all.

Imagine Linden Labs were to say it is now against the TOS for anyone to rent out any land EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY

Oh and by the way everyone renting land out is stuck with your islands and you owe us rent?

I do not see the difference.

And don't hold your breath it can happen to anyone because LL has a motto which is:

"BE EVIL"
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