But you can 'see' into a sim placed on a corner, that has to be considered adjacent, surely?
Have a look down in the dAlliez isles for an example of how that works.
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-22-2006 13:52
But you can 'see' into a sim placed on a corner, that has to be considered adjacent, surely? Have a look down in the dAlliez isles for an example of how that works. |
ReserveBank Division
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03-22-2006 14:03
For your reference, there is a resident economic summit on the horizon. A group of like minded people will be getting together to decide what kinds of economic systems we as residents can pioneer and evolve, to help solve the economic problems which plague our world. Whatever this forum has been doing, its obvious that it has been a failure... The Value of the Linden Dollar has continued to decline. The Economic Forum is a Waste.. You figure, after several years, they would have worked out the primary issues which plague SL, chief among them "Money Supply Inflation" and "New Land Glut" _____________________
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Shaun Altman
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03-22-2006 14:14
It's back! Seriously, Shaun, ReserveBank Division is a joke alt, it's not worth it. I thought that with the summit coming up, it would be a good time to put Mr. Division to the troll test. He spends so much time banging his head against the wall here, that I was curious to see if he had any interest in actual action, or if like most folks in this forum, was all talk. I think I have my answer. It's such a sad state of affairs that not 0.0001% of the effort that people put into WHINING and MOANING about problems on this forum, and screaming that "someone should DO SOMETHING or the SKY WILL FALL", is spent actually coordinating, networking, and DOING SOMETHING themselves. People must learn to accept that it is up to Linden Lab to provide a virtual world platform, and it is up to US to use it. _____________________
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Shaun Altman
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03-22-2006 14:19
And, more generally, has the boycott of the land store ended yet? If so, under what terms? If not, what are the terms under which the boycott will be called off? I would like an answer to this question though. Could one of the people running the boycott please comment? _____________________
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Argent Stonecutter
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03-23-2006 07:35
No, I understand that the game costs money to run - the fact that 'premium' users like me who pay a monthly fee to play the game are subsidising the freeloaders who have basic accounts is another matter altogether. A friend told me last night that what I had done with an odd sized 512 plot I acquired was really good, and she'd love to see what I did with a full region. Well so would I, but my life just doesn't allow me $1200 on a virtual plot of land plus $195 a month just to play a game. The sad thing is that free account players can do exactly the same as I do, perhaps just renting a plot of land, never paying LL anything, and cashing out all their profit. |
Argent Stonecutter
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03-23-2006 07:39
And what exactly would be the noticable difference for the end user, if those values for wind were simply faked each time the function was called? |
Lewis Nerd
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03-23-2006 08:09
You figure, after several years, they would have worked out the primary issues which plague SL, chief among them "MoneySupply Inflation" and "New Land Glut" The primary issue which plagues SL is a small group of people having too much control and influence, and a few irrelevant individuals who feel they have something worthy of saying, giving the impression they are some sort of authority on the matter by issuing 'decrees' as to how things should be, rather than worrying about how things are. Most people are quite happy to play the game without being too concerned about land or money, and just have fun. The day I rely on a computer game and non-existant land and items to make a sole real life living will be the day I know that I have finally gone insane. Lewis _____________________
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Fade Languish
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03-23-2006 08:15
The primary issue which plagues SL is a small group of people having too much control and influence, and a few irrelevant individuals who feel they have something worthy of saying, giving the impression they are some sort of authority on the matter by issuing 'decrees' as to how things should be, rather than worrying about how things are. Most people are quite happy to play the game without being too concerned about land or money, and just have fun. The day I rely on a computer game and non-existant land and items to make a sole real life living will be the day I know that I have finally gone insane. Lewis Issuing decrees on how things should be? Sounds a bit like you. Most people... what you've asked them all have you? You seem very concerned about land (not enough) and money (I don't want to pay that much). You might want to play a game and that's fine. I don't (unless it's C+C Generals!). |
Shep Korvin
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03-23-2006 08:46
The day I rely on a computer game and non-existant land and items to make a sole real life living will be the day I know that I have finally gone insane. Oh, I dunno... I make a (rl) living from writing computer programs... they only exist as virtual entities - it's not like they're a thing you could touch... or hold. So I guess I already make a sole living from selling non-existant items. And it's not a bad living, either ![]() |
Neil Protagonist
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03-23-2006 09:12
Not being a land baron and only owning one sim, I still see this as fundamentally flawed. If you want to "reserve" a piece of land, all of a sudden it goes up for auction?? Where is the reservation in that? It makes more sense to not reserve and to just purchase a sim and say "I'd like this next to my current sim please" Unless I am missing something (entirely likely, this stuff is confusing as is, let alone with this added bizzaro behavior)
But it does seem to me that the lindens didnt think this through or perhaps did and didnt let us in on the real reasons behind this. Either way I'm confused as to why anyone would participate. And in response to Mr. Nerd's post: I made a living off of making video games prior to coming to work in sl full time, so for me its just a matter of changing from one game project to another, the only difference is here I dont have someone else telling me what content I need to generate......oh and I get paid less here, but the creative freedom is worth it. _____________________
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05-09-2006 06:40
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05-09-2006 09:48
Yep, she always does things like this, but never does what she says. ![]() Kinda hard to trust people like that eh? hehe _____________________
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Anshe Chung
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05-09-2006 10:04
This land store is still one shameless rip off and totally faulty and badly designed idea. But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. And our customers are most important.
One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! _____________________
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05-09-2006 10:27
This land store is still one shameless rip off and totally faulty and badly designed idea. But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. And our customers are most important. One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! I had a very long response to this Anshe, but as a respected programmer and businessman here in SL I won't post it. All I will say in response is to watch your back. What happens when you bite the hand that feeds you? If you don't like something, don't do it. if you have problems with SL, just cash out and leave. No one cares what you think. You are not as powerful as you think you are. _____________________
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05-09-2006 10:28
This land store is still one shameless rip off and totally faulty and badly designed idea. But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. And our customers are most important. One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! Anshe, you seem quite hostile towards the people that made the program that made you rich. Why is this? _____________________
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Lewis Nerd
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05-09-2006 10:36
Anshe, you seem quite hostile towards the people that made the program that made you rich. Why is this? My guess is because they don't respond when she clicks her fingers for action, and bow in to pressure to amend things to her wishes. Lewis _____________________
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Nyx Divine
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05-09-2006 10:51
One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! If this statement by her Grace is not clear enough let me make it clearer. I swear to god you guys (LL), Anshe may be the top banana and may draw some great attention to SL but she WILL without a doubt, when given the chance, rip a HUGE chunk outta your asses not if, but WHEN, she can. And it may be a huge enough chunk to bring it all crashing down. My advice to LL would be to begin phasing Anshe out of SL. I suppose some of you think this sounds harsh and unfair, but the pure venom she spits towards LL and those who don't support her has convinced me that she is fool enough to be not ONE iota grateful to SL for providing her the platform to generate the kind of income she does and will turn rabid eventually! _____________________
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Seraph Nephilim
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05-09-2006 10:56
But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. As for whether this is good or bad, I can't say, because I don't deal with that sort of volume. I do think that LL is doing a good job of borking a lot of what they touch recently. Now, mind you, I believe they have good intentions. However, theory & communications don't seem to be their strong points. They really need to work on this! |
Over Sleeper
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05-09-2006 11:25
This land store is still one shameless rip off and totally faulty and badly designed idea. But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. And our customers are most important. One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! I had a very long response to this Anshe, but as a respected programmer and businessman here in SL I won't post it. All I will say in response is to watch your back. What happens when you bite the hand that feeds you? If you don't like something, don't do it. if you have problems with SL, just cash out and leave. No one cares what you think. You are not as powerful as you think you are. I agree Games, "Slaves are made in such ways. The last time Longshanks spoke of peace I was a boy. And many Scottish nobles, who would not be slaves, were lured by him under a flag of truce to a barn, where he had them hanged. I was very young, but I remember Longshank's notion of peace. " Do NOT Boycott lest you be hanged by those who lure you!!! March onwards... to the Landstore!!!!! |
Jason Foo
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05-09-2006 19:30
I have 2 cents I can throw in here...
If Anshe is so against the land store, why did she just bid up 48 "void" spaces in the land store? If your gona boycott something, shouldn't you refrain from buying into it? Just my 2 cents. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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05-09-2006 22:53
This land store is still one shameless rip off and totally faulty and badly designed idea. But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. And our customers are most important. One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! Back on the rocker, you! Seriously, making comments like "I may take cruel revenge" doesn't help you any. Sorta makes you come off like an ass, not a good business woman. It's no wonder all the rumors are circulating. _____________________
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Juro Kothari
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05-09-2006 22:55
Do NOT Boycott lest you be hanged by those who lure you!!! March onwards... to the Landstore!!!!! She's doing a fine job hanging herself - she needs no help. _____________________
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Dhalia Unsung
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05-10-2006 07:06
This land store is still one shameless rip off and totally faulty and badly designed idea. But after 4 months of boycott and seemingly everybody else trying to beat each other in pay money for void it is time to move on. And our customers are most important. One day when the balance of power shift I may take cruel revenge though. The plan is to imprison the guilty Linden in charge and force him to play Go for the rest of his life! Miss Anshe, when you say things like that you lose more and more support. It sure sounds like you're digging yourself a hole. Im shocked at what a powerful businesswoman you've become with this sort of venom. No wait, Im not. You'd fit right in at Enron. |