Announcing the Second Life Land Store Boycott

You are right Moopf

In your example you still need 12 auctions to protect one 6 sim continent's expansion.

Can you make similar map for how to protect one multi-continent area with 106 sims? Can you somehow estimate how many auction this would require? Maybe 200?

Now, lets assume I try to grief you. You start bid for your voids and on every auction I just bid up to 20% of what you already invested in protecting voids. For example you already bought 5 voids for 150$ total, then I start bid 30$ on next void. Then 36$, 39$, 43$, 48$, etc. How high would this go after, say 100 auction? Is this called "exponential"? Even in the case I finally win one void and I am the unlikely type of griefer who do not just default, then for every US$ I paid, I wasted 5 US$ of yours.

This is just so silly!

I agree, also the fact that the only time we see Anshe post in the forums is when she's either calling people tourists or she thinks she is gonna lose out on making dollas...

Yes, and we all know that large landowners never grief others, and are subject to the same rules and penalties for such actions.



Everyone knows you already get anything you want, LL has even edited the Terms of Service JUST FOR YOU when you were buying and reselling accounts, stop trying to play the "poor little me" garbage.

I disagree. Reserving island locations is like paying for extra IP address because you'll need them in a few months. For some, reserving island locations might even parallel defensively buying a phonetically-similar domain name. Making these charges reemburseable is unnecessary.

Anshe is a God... Get on Your Knees Little One...
Do as your told, boycott the Evil Linden Empire..

Only a fool pays for extra IP space.. When somebody is
saying you gotta pay for more IPs, I tell'm, "So long sucker,
I'm NAT'ing".

Ahh. A mighty fine example of critical thinking skills on your part.

I'm not sure that analogy works. If you pay for extra IP addresses, you've recieved what you've paid for. With these reservations, you're not actually recieving an island. It's just an option to buy.

My big problems with this are that it's done by auction, that the reservations only last 3 months and that you still have to pay the ridiculously large moving fee should you not be able to expand where you currently are.

... and of course, having obviously read every post in this thread, she seems to have conveniently overlooked both times I have asked that question.

Third time lucky?

Anshe, when was the last time you logged in to play the game just for fun? Is there actually any fun in the game for you, or is it just purely a business that you care nothing about except profit?

Lewis

This is an attack in the form of a question. If you think anybody is going to respond to this then you are very optimistic.

Actually, like the question even matters. So what if she logs in for business rather than fun. So do I. So what.

Are you getting all judgemental on us again?

It's a perfectly straightforward question, which I wouldn't have asked if I thought it would break the RoC.

I don't expect a response. I wouldn't consider myself important enough for Anshe to waste her time on a minor nothingness like me. After all, I'm not even a customer of hers.

Doesn't mean it can't be asked, along with the obvious relation to the "Turn your back on Governor Linden" protest which arose when the removal of telehubs was announced.

That campaign obviously failed as there was no reversal. Any reason why this campaign shouldn't fade into oblivion once the same realisation arrives - before the next one begins?

Lewis

I just think that if all you are doing is making money, rather than playing the game, you're missing the entire point of the game in the first place.

As a point of note, I have no opinion either way on this subject as it's not something I ever see as affecting me. However, whilst we have the right to question anything LL may do - we don't actually have any right to expect any changes.

Lewis

No, it isn't.

You will find that if you don't attack Anshe, but speak to her reasonably, she will be happy to spend time with you. Your statement above is another unwarranted attack.

Why do you care what Anshe's motivation for logging in is? Hell, the only reason I've logged in in the past six months is to (a) release my land to public so I could tier down and (b) funnel stipend from my alt to my main account for sales on LindeX.

And, quite honestly, if you weren't acting like a tool you might get a response to your (entirely loaded) question.

Maybe you're missing the point that there are dozens of points of the 'game'. Some have one, some have more than one. Don't assume everyone shares the one reason that you do, and that if they don't, they're somehow missing the point. It's quite ironic really.

SL is what you make it.. whether its for fun, or for business.. Some people even find running a little empire fun. So remember, just cause your fun is one set of activities, doesnt mean that its what everyone considers fun.

Like sports on TV.. some people like to watch it. Some dont

Hrm Lewis we could reverse that when is the last time you logged in the forums to do anything but grief land barons? I'd certainly call asking an irrelevent question 3 times griefing and you have a long history of whining because land isn't free. And just because Anshe has a long history of trying to preserve her best interest... like umm everyone in this game you and LL included doesn't mean she's not right on this one. And unlike reversing telehubs she only needs the support of other island owners and only needs inaction. That need for inaction along will place most island owners with her. People have to act to reserve a spot. That places all passive's effectively with her in not bidding. Also other continent builders are speaking up and complaining. In order to win this one LL needs to movitate people to action motivational tables are reversed this time.

ps when is the last time Phillip Linden logged in just to have fun?

I agree with Anshe on this one. We won't be be reserving any void sims.

This latest decision by LL has pretty much removed my last reservation about dropping support for our second sim too. I expect that island tier is going to go up in the near future and it's already past the "sweet spot" for anyone not sub-leasing to others.

It's a shame too, because we have a compelling build in Chaos and a couple of interesting projects in the works. RL had put those on hold, and I think LL may put them permanently on hold.

One thing that hasn't been mentioned, mainly because only current estate owners that attended the last concierge meeting will be aware of it. We were told that the new reservation system would initially not come in to effect in areas that already house estate sims. I think it was 6 mnths, I would have to check, but estate owners are free from reservations being made near their sims for a period.

As it currently is designed, you do not have to return to auction to renew your reservation.



The auction is there to allow for conflict resolution between two residents who wish to reserve the same space.



Reservations cannot be place beside another reservation.

Except it doesn't where two sims are like this:

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You'll have people trying to reserve two different spots, which an auction will not resolve. As many sims are in this type of configuration at present, I suspect this will be a very common occurance.

How does an auction allow for conflict resolution in this instance?

It's always nice to say that an auction is for any other reason than to inflate prices, but it rarely is. This just seems like a mad grab for more revenue.

PS. or are you hoping this won't occur often because people will pay the ridiculous cost for moving an island?

Chris, can you confirm and give details regarding my post above yours s'il vous plait?

In both cases you're paying for the ability to add additional services. Reservations are a value-added service. I see no reason why LL shouldn't charge for them.

Rather than discussing whether there should be reservations, it might be more productive to discuss what form they should take.