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Anshe Chung makes reservation for 48 sims

Blakar Ogre
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05-09-2006 04:36
Well while everybody is heralding the doom and downfall of LL, it's economy, ... Anshe seems to disagree enough to reserve 48 sims. I can't blame here, if she uses the publicity Business Week brought her she should be able to pull it off.
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05-09-2006 04:54
True, but ACS fights the same fundamental battle LL does. It's pretty easy to attract thousands of signups with flash and glamour. It's extremely difficult to retain them for more than a few weeks.
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05-09-2006 05:44
I noticed that as well. Has me thinking AC intends to create a separate virtual world. After all, even if people use open source systems like Croquet, it's glaringly apparent that hosting it and defending it against griefers is a significant issue. Griefers apparently don't have the sense to see that their actions largely reinforce a hierarchical structure and send independents into the arms of corporations capable of ensuring some level of security (even if it's only a perception).
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05-09-2006 06:03
From: Blakar Ogre
Well while everybody is heralding the doom and downfall of LL, it's economy, ... Anshe seems to disagree enough to reserve 48 sims. I can't blame here, if she uses the publicity Business Week brought her she should be able to pull it off.

It might be formally correct that th say that she is reserving 48 spots on the grid. Through the protection mechanism for sims and reservations this is in fact a reservation of 500 spots on the grid. :)
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05-09-2006 06:03
I remember this - - when I read this thread about reservations.. wow...

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05-09-2006 06:11
A reservation covering 48 regions? That's a first, I wasn't aware that there were any Native American areas in game, it should be interesting. Now, who's going to make the rest of the Wild West?

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05-09-2006 06:16
From: PetGirl Bergman
I remember this - - when I read this thread about reservations.. wow...

/130/a2/93321/1.html


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I'm still waiting for the public apology from Philip that she said she would need before she bid on any more sims. :D
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05-09-2006 06:18
From: Lewis Nerd
A reservation covering 48 regions? That's a first, I wasn't aware that there were any Native American areas in game, it should be interesting. Now, who's going to make the rest of the Wild West?

Lewis


...maybe some dresed like this:-))


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05-09-2006 06:54
From: Dana Bergson
It might be formally correct that th say that she is reserving 48 spots on the grid. Through the protection mechanism for sims and reservations this is in fact a reservation of 500 spots on the grid. :)


Funny thing is there are atleast 2 positions where someone could pocket a sim.
Kelly Nordberg
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05-09-2006 08:02
From: Jon Rolland
Funny thing is there are atleast 2 positions where someone could pocket a sim.

Depends on which area she is trying to protect there are actually many positions that can screw up the pattern. I counted 8.
Desmond Shang
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05-09-2006 08:24
To me it looks like a very inexpensive blocking move on Dana's future, besides the obvious side benefit of "kinda staking out" some territory.

And so the Risk game begins in earnest.



Anshe was against reservations in the beginning - not her idea, not her rules. So you can hardly blame her when she starts to play the game the way she was made to play it.

When push comes to shove, this is how the reservation auction system is designed to work. Handed a reservations sword and tossed into a free-for-all arena with a bunch of hungry land barons, how does anyone react?



Like many small nations, Caledon has to play this game as well but I use a 'not worth it' mode of defence.

Even with the high cost of moving it's cheaper for me to spend several hundred dollars to move the entire country overnight, rather than piss away the same amount on speculative bids.


Also, this system heavily favours the gadfly. Catch someone napping, and you could lock up a critical development region fairly easily, and feign innocence. "But I just liked that spot!"

And all of it is so unnecessary. Coordinates for sale. Pfft.
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05-09-2006 08:33
Desmond I did not realise you had expanded into 4 sims, the orginal sim was almost the only other place here that was the near equal to the beauty of Dreamland. I will take another look if you do not mind a visitor as with 4 sims you have a much bigger canvass.

As for Anshe and Dreamland they deserves their success. I know they work damn hard at it.
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05-09-2006 08:37
From: nimrod Yaffle
I'm still waiting for the public apology from Philip that she said she would need before she bid on any more sims. :D



I believe a certain land baroness was directing her discontent at the time towards the new Land Store scheme where is would cost beaucoup $L's to develop and protect large, multi-sim continents such as Dreamland.

I don't believe the requested apology was contingent upon ANY future sim acquistions- by evidence of the huge, multiple sim orders that have occured since the Land Store ruckus was played out in the forums.

Meanwhile, Dreamland has continued to be greatly expanded and further developed without utilizing the Land Store via what appears to be a long standing bulk order arrangement with LL used by several of the large land barons. The boycott of the Land Store by the land baroness appears to be ongoing sans the 'apology' from management.
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05-09-2006 08:48
From: Desmond Shang
To me it looks like a very inexpensive blocking move on Dana's future, besides the obvious side benefit of "kinda staking out" some territory.

And so the Risk game begins in earnest.

Also, this system heavily favours the gadfly. Catch someone napping, and you could lock up a critical development region fairly easily, and feign innocence. "But I just liked that spot!"
I am not sure if the cluster, we are building currently to the west of the mega reservation discussed here, had anything to do with the location of those reservations. There are still some locations left on the grid where such a block would not hurt others.

Honi soi qui mal y pense... :)

What is more than obvious, though, is that a number of residents have begun a game of Go. I like the analogy better then Risk. With just one cleverly placed stone you can inflict a lot of damage on your opponent in a Go game.

Our cluster has been attacked twice in the last 10 days by reservation bids from residents that were tactically placed to inflict a maximum of harm (blocking expansion) with a minimum of effort. In both cases those reservations made no business sense in all. In one case the griefer even positioned his own reservations such that he himself, had he won, would have no expansion potential left at all. And in both cases the resident in question was less than a month old, had no ratings, no picture, no picks ...

I honestly hope that Linden Lab will change some of the procedures regarding reservations auctions to stop these silly games. They do nothing to further the development of Second Life. They are just a new way to needle and bully other residents that you hold a grudge against.
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05-09-2006 09:11
From: Dana Bergson
I am not sure if the cluster, we are building currently to the west of the mega reservation discussed here, had anything to do with the location of those reservations. There are still some locations left on the grid where such a block would not hurt others.


However to someone who operates under the Win-lose mentality, moves like these which cause maximum damage to others, maximum benefit to one self at minimal cost is the best option in their mind.

AC is certainly not a believer in the seven-habits.
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05-09-2006 09:30
From: Elror Gullwing

I don't believe the requested apology was contingent upon ANY future sim acquistions- by evidence of the huge, multiple sim orders that have occured since the Land Store ruckus was played out in the forums.

Yes she did. It when they billed her account and it was suspended for a day on April 1st because they billed her for the sims all at once. She said she woul no buy anymore sims until she got an apology from LL "Because nobody intimidates the stronghand of Anshe." Too bad I don't feel like finding the post. :p
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05-09-2006 09:41
From: Dana Bergson

What is more than obvious, though, is that a number of residents have begun a game of Go. I like the analogy better then Risk. With just one cleverly placed stone you can inflict a lot of damage on your opponent in a Go game.

Our cluster has been attacked twice in the last 10 days by reservation bids from residents that were tactically placed to inflict a maximum of harm (blocking expansion) with a minimum of effort. In both cases those reservations made no business sense in all. In one case the griefer even positioned his own reservations such that he himself, had he won, would have no expansion potential left at all. And in both cases the resident in question was less than a month old, had no ratings, no picture, no picks ...

I honestly hope that Linden Lab will change some of the procedures regarding reservations auctions to stop these silly games. They do nothing to further the development of Second Life. They are just a new way to needle and bully other residents that you hold a grudge against.


When I made my reservations at 1048,1030 I asked a business woman to the south of me what her intentions were and told her mine. As a result of those conversations I moved my original reservation 5 tiles north and she thanked me for it. Since then I think I read the LL can move my sim should I decide to buy if they want so I really didn't guarantee that location. You might talk to them if someone has a single sim that is blocking your larger development to see if they can be moved.
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05-09-2006 09:57
It is much more like a Go game... but with a lethal twist. The critical element is the cash dynamic.

If you are the most powerful, there isn't a spot on the grid you can't win - it's more a matter of intelligent financial coverage.

If you are small enough, it's simply cheaper to move than to get into a contest in the first place.



From: Paulismyname Bunin
Desmond I did not realise you had expanded into 4 sims, the orginal sim was almost the only other place here that was the near equal to the beauty of Dreamland. I will take another look if you do not mind a visitor as with 4 sims you have a much bigger canvass.

As for Anshe and Dreamland they deserves their success. I know they work damn hard at it.


We are 100% open to visitors and please consider yourself an honoured guest. (though for conversation, I'm sadly a bit socked in for the next few days moving people into our new port town)

Such invitation is extended as well to those who have their own sims "in competition" too - at the end of the day we have more goals in common than otherwise.

I fully respect what it takes to operate Dreamland and if I make it to say, twelve sims, I'm going to need some assistance to operate Caledon too.
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05-10-2006 00:00
From: Kelly Nordberg
AC is certainly not a believer in the seven-habits.
Who knows. There is always the matter of interpretation. I have been a huge fan of Covey and the Seven Habits since I stumbled over his books some 10 years ago. Strengthened my believe that you can be happy, successful in business without becoming an egotist.

There are many who think otherwise. Looking at the business landscape these days, Steve Balmer's business ethics seem to have more followers than Stephen Covey's. :)
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05-10-2006 00:30
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Who knows. There is always the matter of interpretation. I have been a huge fan of Covey and the Seven Habits since I stumbled over his books some 10 years ago. Strengthened my believe that you can be happy, successful in business without becoming an egotist.

There are many who think otherwise. Looking at the business landscape these days, Steve Balmer's business ethics seem to have more followers than Stephen Covey's. :)



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..and a life with only inside out feelings - without taking in the one from outside in - are dangerous...

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05-10-2006 05:28
From: Blakar Ogre
Well while everybody is heralding the doom and downfall of LL, it's economy, ... Anshe seems to disagree enough to reserve 48 sims. I can't blame here, if she uses the publicity Business Week brought her she should be able to pull it off.



Maybe she bought insurance from Lloyds of London as
a hedge against an economic collapse.
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05-10-2006 05:45
From: Dana Bergson
Who knows. There is always the matter of interpretation. I have been a huge fan of Covey and the Seven Habits since I stumbled over his books some 10 years ago. Strengthened my believe that you can be happy, successful in business without becoming an egotist.

There are many who think otherwise. Looking at the business landscape these days, Steve Balmer's business ethics seem to have more followers than Stephen Covey's. :)


From what I've seen in just the last 2 months, ego maybe to only thing that AC has more of than land in SL.

Everything that AC had said on the forum only serves her own purposes. Granted if you are her customers, she treat you like gold. However if she perceive any threats at all.... watch out.

It is so approprate that she portraits herself as the dragon lady....
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05-10-2006 05:48
From: Kelly Nordberg
Granted if you are her customers, she treat you like gold. However if she perceive any threats at all.... watch out.


Maybe she does, but not all of the people that work for her. This is at least my experience which caused me to give up all my AC land.

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05-10-2006 05:54
/139/80/97580/1.html :D
"However, intimidation do not work with Anshe. Nobody can buy, bribe, scare or strong arm Anshe Chung."

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