Volunteer to End Your Premium Acct. Stipends

Yeah, it is a shame...or is that sham?

Updated list of residents who are opting out of premium account stipends (L$500/wk):

1. Me (Bloop Cork)
2. Nicole David
3. kerunix Flan
4. Kazanture Aleixandre
5. Mad Wombat
6. Fade Languish
7. Jon Rolland
8. Derrick Cannoli
9. Alexander Yeats
10. Nephilaine Protagonist
11. Andie Ramona
12. Svar Beckersted (welcome on board!)

Updated list of residents who are opting out of basic account stipends (L$50/wk):

1. Rasah Tigereye (two basic accounts)
2. Merhain Speculaas
3. Andie Ramona (also, his two basic accounts)


We're at L$6250 per week. How many more residents do we need? Uh, too MANY!

Keep going! Remember, this is a volunteer program only. If you want to keep your stipends that is perfectly fine. You do not have to state that here. If you want to offer your support but want to keep your stipends, please state it in this thread.

We know there are more of you that are concerned with the affect of too many stipends on the SL money supply. Were are you? Step up to the plate and show your conviction!

Who's next?

Yeah and everytime we pay the flames 500L, a smoke cloud in form of a skull will appear, accompanied by the sound of a dying squirrel.

What would happen if we pitched all our Linden's into the flame at once?

Then we are broke. lol

Edit: I guess Philip Linden will emerge from the flames with a horrible mad man's laughter and runs off for a shopping spree.

There have been a lot of new threads created in the economy forum over the past several days about the Lindex or the Linden. They seem to fall into one of four categories:

1. Hostile treads calling the 15 of us (and people like us) idiots and blaming the decline of the Linden's value on the proverbial "us's". They feel we don't care about SL and are attempting to destroy the economy.



2. Those who don't agree with us but understand our concern and point of view and appreciate that we are trying a novel, grassroots, volunteer approach.



3. Those that agree with us but cannot afford to opt out of their stipends



4. Those that agree with us and can afford to opt out of their stipends but have not. They choose to turn their backs on our grassroots effort.



Oh, I guess there is the need for a fifth category:

5. Those people that do not fall into any of the four categories above




Okay, no more volunteers? Is it only the 15 of us who see a problem with the money supply and can afford to give up our stipends?

We need a charismatic campaign leader. Someone who joins the masses behind us. Someone who can make flaming speeches like William Wallace in "Braveheart" right before the battle.

There are definitely people here that can make flaming speeches. The problem is that they flame the masses instead of joining them!

Least I have kept things civil on this thread

I'll drop my $50L a week!

Jonas, you sure have! You are in the second group of people! I appreciate your input and civility.

I believe I did that last week.

Lewis

I'll have stipend buring parties on Tuesdays where we can all do this together. Also there is a "Buring Iris" ball at extreme where you can come burn Linden dollars any time you want ... in public ... where it's much more exciting to do so!

For me, I'll be burning mine on Tuesdays at the burning party =c)

Although I have already burned way too much this week ... hitting that ball is addictive!

You can also buy a ball of your own for $0 and inspect the script inside to verify the Lindens are being trutly burnt.

Enjoy!

So Chilly, should I add you to the official, volunteer stipend opt out list? Or are you holding your own burning party via Buring Iris balls?

Nick, you've been added to the list. Welcome aboard!


Updated list of residents who are opting out of premium account stipends (L$500/wk):

1. Me (Bloop Cork)
2. Nicole David
3. kerunix Flan
4. Kazanture Aleixandre
5. Mad Wombat
6. Fade Languish
7. Jon Rolland
8. Derrick Cannoli
9. Alexander Yeats
10. Nephilaine Protagonist
11. Andie Ramona
12. Svar Beckersted

Updated list of residents who are opting out of basic account stipends (L$50/wk):

1. Rasah Tigereye (two basic accounts)
2. Merhain Speculaas
3. Andie Ramona (also, his two basic accounts)
4. Nick Vilas (welcome on board!)


We're at L$6300 per week. How many more residents do we need? Uh, TOO MANY!

Keep going! Remember, this is a volunteer program only. If you want to keep your stipends that is perfectly fine. You do not have to state that here. If you want to offer your support but want to keep your stipends, please state it in this thread.

We know there are more of you that are concerned with the affect of too many stipends on the SL money supply. Were are you? Step up to the plate and show your conviction!

Who's next?

Can we have an ingame group? That's 100L more in the sink pot. And I still have a group slot left.

Two questions to ponder:

If it is true that it is mainly due to stipend that the value of the L$ is falling, then...

* Why has the value of WoW Gold, which is constantly created, remained relatively static? (It's a very low value but it hasn't devalued.)

* Why has the value of credits on IMVU, which has a content creation system like SL but has never had any form of regular stipend, nonetheless devalued?

The stipend and/or lack of sufficient sinks is why there is too much money. Lack of faith in LL is why the Linden has totally collapsed recently.

1. LL allowed a LONG term belief they wanted 250L/$1 a belief they recently denied.

2. LL has shown a significant lack of understanding of the economy.

3. While the Linden was hovering around it's weakest historical point LL announced plans to sell $L's. Which regardless of "current" intents if they knew the slightest bit about economics and Alan Greenspan they should have known making that announcement would be immediate disaster. That disaster followed by inept Linden response is what has pushed the L over the edge.

Doesn't change the fact that this stipend removal hhas just blown at least 80% of the market for content creators and soon, very soon they won't be able to support land owners selling land for thier shops or renting land. Without that L income from the new folks content creation is doomed.

didnt read any of these post just going to say that I have a money tree taking my stipend to give to the newbies. So technically I havent been getting stipend every week anyways for my own personal use.

I dont think ending our stipend is the magic solution. I pay far more then 500 a week in advertising and uploads. LL gets its back.

"Doesn't change the fact that this stipend removal hhas just blown at least 80% of the market for content creators"

Bollocks. Going here:

https://secondlife.com/currency/market.php

I see that in five days, there are as many Lindens purchased on Lindex than LindenLabs hand out in stipends for a MONTH.

And I want VALUE of money, not QUANTITY. L$1,000,000 is useless to me if I can only sell it for $10.

The sky is not falling.

Musuko.

Someone asked if you want me added to the list? No, that's ok I don't have to wait for the Lindens to have to put some policy in place for "volinteer" and they probubally never will. Why should they when you can on your own? This is user initiated, if you want to control your destiny then control it YOURSELF ... you can just do it yourself, you don't have to "volinteer" .... JUST DO IT.

I'll be burning my stipend this Tuesday. Come join in.

You are probably correct, Chilly. LL will not accept our volunteer opting out. Most likely they will ignore our drivel in this thread. Most grassroots efforts advocacy are ignored at first. That does not make them useless. Read this post in this thread by Jon Rolland to learn why our effort is important. His point is valid.

/130/a0/109283/3.html#post1057836

I was going to challenge that also, Musuko, but I see you have already.

In this thread, we have tried to use hard data when possible to back up our viewpoints. How did you calculate the figure of 80%, Dmitri?

That's not a bad idea. What would you suggest we call our group?