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Volunteer to End Your Premium Acct. Stipends

Jon Rolland
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05-26-2006 10:35
From: Jonas Pierterson
You mean the rotating roses, meditations mats and ceiling fans with lit globes were stolen? Nah.

Wrong again bucko.


Thats funny I never specified which items are from stolen idea's. I don't know they aren't my content but I do know what you've admited to. Sorry not wrong just repeating what you've said need a link?
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
05-26-2006 10:37
From: Jon Rolland
Thats funny I never specified which items are from stolen idea's. I don't know they aren't my content but I do know what you've admited to. Sorry not wrong just repeating what you've said need a link?


Hot tubs. Only charged for my work (siginificantly less than any other example on the market). next?

Very wrong.
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Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
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05-26-2006 10:55
From: Rasah Tigereye
The ones who cash out do it to pay for their land tier to be able to give you a place to hang out and allow you to buy stuff to enjoy in game. I'm not in this "fix the economy, do somethig drastic" thing because I want to make money on $L, I'm in it because, as I said, everyone who owns land here, everyone who makes content here, everyone who donates any sort of time or money to here, is currently loosing out big time. The only ones who are not affected by it are the freeloaders like you.


I have my own place to hang out at :) I pay good Americans Dollars to Linden Labs to be able to do so. I pay not only premium but tier as well. Why are you calling me a "freeloader" when I pay more to Linden Labs than for TV? (TV antenna not allowed in my gated community).

Why do I have to support their gameplay?
Rasah Tigereye
"Buckaneer American"
Join date: 30 Nov 2003
Posts: 783
05-26-2006 11:00
From: Jonas Pierterson
Mhm, and if you worked a wage that was actually adjusted by the state minimum wage, would you be a spoiled rich brat too?

Last raise I got was because minimum wage went up. If anyone 'can't afford to throw money away' its people like me.



Oh, you're not a spoiled rich brat, you're just someone who's not smart enough to get a good job iRL, and too dumb to figure out when they're being screwed in game as well. Every day you hold on to your $500L without spending it, you're throwing it away. Every day that the economy goes down, your money is being thrown away. Fact is same applies to your RL money and income as well (you actually earn anywhere from %1 to %3 LESS every year), although luckily the US$ inflation isn't nearly as bad.

Oh, and you are loosing money by selling things in game cheaply. You loose $10 (minus land tied tier fees) a month doing that.
Rasah Tigereye
"Buckaneer American"
Join date: 30 Nov 2003
Posts: 783
05-26-2006 11:07
From: Dmitri Polonsky
That's not the fix either. They need to stop the PURPOSEFUL driving down of L value by a certain few moronic individuals who are trying to destroy the market for someone bigger yet who basically remains silent.



Dmitri, could you PLEASE explain to me how that would work? I've heard this many times, but never noticed a hint of it while trading, and the idea just doesn't make sence to me. I mean, it would costs 100's of US$ to do this on a daily basis, and there is no possible profit from making the linden extremely cheap. I mean, I've heard people say that "they will drive down the price, then when it's really cheap, buy it all up and charge people a fortune for that." That doesn't make any sence because 1. they have to spend a lot of money driving it down, and 2. they would have to make that money back, PLUS interest on the time value of that money, from a place where if the money gets expensive the game owners can simply increase stippends again. How, and why, would people be doing this? What's the purpose?
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 277
05-26-2006 11:08
From: Sansarya Caligari
:FIC:

For reference to that smiley, which does not exist here, see Second Citizen

:)


It looks like a mad smiley with a broken finger. Or, is that the thumbs up! So, you want to be added to this list? ;)
Rasah Tigereye
"Buckaneer American"
Join date: 30 Nov 2003
Posts: 783
05-26-2006 11:09
From: Ranma Tardis
I have my own place to hang out at :) I pay good Americans Dollars to Linden Labs to be able to do so. I pay not only premium but tier as well. Why are you calling me a "freeloader" when I pay more to Linden Labs than for TV? (TV antenna not allowed in my gated community).

Why do I have to support their gameplay?



Um... because you play on their land and use their content, ideas, and contributions to comunity and society of SL? Just a guess. You can afford $10 a month of $72 a year. Others can't really afford $400 a month or $3000 a year (some as much as $10,000 a year). Bit of a diff there.
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 277
05-26-2006 11:12
From: Bloop Cork

Hey, Lewis and Ranma. You misspelled Conrad. ;)


From: Lewis Nerd
Communists call each other Comrade, didn't you know that?

Lewis


Uh, yes I knew that. I was making a joke hence the winking smiley.
Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
Join date: 8 Nov 2005
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05-26-2006 11:12
From: Rasah Tigereye
Oh, you're not a spoiled rich brat, you're just someone who's not smart enough to get a good job iRL, and too dumb to figure out when they're being screwed in game as well. Every day you hold on to your $500L without spending it, you're throwing it away. Every day that the economy goes down, your money is being thrown away. Fact is same applies to your RL money and income as well (you actually earn anywhere from %1 to %3 LESS every year), although luckily the US$ inflation isn't nearly as bad.

Oh, and you are loosing money by selling things in game cheaply. You loose $10 (minus land tied tier fees) a month doing that.


I give things away for free. Ok you talked me into it, I will sell my Lindens if can find someone stupid enough to pay me cash for them. Yes you have talked me into selling my vast ROFL supply of Lindens :)
Rasah Tigereye
"Buckaneer American"
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Posts: 783
05-26-2006 11:17
From: Ranma Tardis
I give things away for free.


Good. Now give away $100US a month for free. Or $300US. Or $1000US.
Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
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Posts: 1,415
05-26-2006 11:21
From: Rasah Tigereye
Um... because you play on their land and use their content, ideas, and contributions to comunity and society of SL? Just a guess. You can afford $10 a month of $72 a year. Others can't really afford $400 a month or $3000 a year (some as much as $10,000 a year). Bit of a diff there.


They need to call my firms sl customer service line (800) 883-5825! It is not my problem that they pay out such money but really $192 a month plus $72 a year is not that much money. Why should I support their habbit? Nobody but me pays for mine.

Yes, support the revolution! do not buy Lindens or content! New residents should consider either buying or renting from Anshe Chung and pay her in dollars. This is a win-win for the both of you.
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 277
05-26-2006 11:21
Well, this seems to be going well--everyone getting along and staying on topic.

So, who's next to voluntarily opt out of their stipends? This is what this thread is all about.
Ranma Tardis
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05-26-2006 11:22
From: Rasah Tigereye
Good. Now give away $100US a month for free. Or $300US. Or $1000US.


Content, you want a slightly used female part? *giggle* *laugh* ROFL
Asha Riel
Registered User
Join date: 26 May 2006
Posts: 49
05-26-2006 11:24
From: Ranma Tardis
Content, you want a slightly used female part? *giggle* *laugh* ROFL
Fahishah!
Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
Posts: 6,860
05-26-2006 11:27
From: Rasah Tigereye
Um... because you play on their land and use their content, ideas, and contributions to comunity and society of SL? Just a guess. You can afford $10 a month of $72 a year. Others can't really afford $400 a month or $3000 a year (some as much as $10,000 a year). Bit of a diff there.


No one is forcing them to pay $400 a month, and they get to be an entertainer/celebrity in return. I don't use that many people's content and I've paid for it when I have. In several cases they've displaced me.
Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
Join date: 30 Dec 2004
Posts: 297
05-26-2006 11:28
From: Ranma Tardis


Yes, support the revolution! do not buy Lindens or content! New residents should consider either buying or renting from Anshe Chung and pay her in dollars. This is a win-win for the both of you.



*boggles* why does boycotting everyone but Anshe help anyone but Anshe?
Yumi Murakami
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05-26-2006 11:29
From: Dhalia Unsung
*boggles* why does boycotting everyone but Anshe help anyone but Anshe?


If this was actually done, it would threaten Linden Labs because effectively all land would be being tiered at the maximum discount (which Anshe pays at).

If Premium Stipend were to be removed it's likely that this would happen because there would no longer be any motivation to pay higher prices to buy land directly from LL.
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 277
05-26-2006 11:36
From: Mad Wombat
This thread must be sticky on top of the forum.


Thanks, Mad Wombat! Maybe once it gets back on topic the MODs could consider it.
Troy Vogel
Marginal Prof. of ZOMG!
Join date: 16 Aug 2004
Posts: 478
05-26-2006 11:40
gosh guys *yawn* honestly *yawn* you must really have a lot of time on your hands to spend every waking moment of it trying to create and perpetrate a rumor and induce panic to serve your own petty SL agenda which let's face it is not going to earn you more than a decent DVD player's worth of cash.

How bout those flexible new prims?

Troy

PS. I am sorry, I'm not being constructive again. Mental note: Must make an appointment to get a whipping in SL.
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Bloop Cork
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05-26-2006 12:08
From: Troy Vogel
gosh guys *yawn* honestly *yawn* you must really have a lot of time on your hands to spend every waking moment of it trying to create and perpetrate a rumor and induce panic to serve your own petty SL agenda which let's face it is not going to earn you more than a decent DVD player's worth of cash.

How bout those flexible new prims?

Troy

PS. I am sorry, I'm not being constructive again. Mental note: Must make an appointment to get a whipping in SL.


LOL! Flexiprims are pretty cool, although I still have not found the best combination of variables to get the effect I want...

No problem on going off topic. We might as well discuss quantum dynamics on this thread. I hear it might not be relative.
Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
Join date: 20 Oct 2005
Posts: 1,760
05-26-2006 13:17
From: Bloop Cork
Yes, several people have offered that as a suggestion in this thread. It is their prerogative and not a bad idea.

Read Jon Rolland's post (#69) and see why he thinks it could send the wrong message.


Actually I agree with Jon on that. Therefore, my stipend is going back to Governor Linden.
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Yumi Murakami
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Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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05-26-2006 13:30
From: Fade Languish
Actually I agree with Jon on that. Therefore, my stipend is going back to Governor Linden.


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Justin74 Benavente
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Join date: 6 Oct 2005
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Islands / Stipends and Property Ownership
05-26-2006 13:32
Hey I'm the first to say take away my stipend! I've been considering downgrading my account anyway but am just too damn lazy to check into it!

Must you be a premium member to own an island? I do own a sim, and technically my land tier is nothing on most of the screens that describe such. Even on the SL website it says Land Owned = 0m

Soooo if anyone has any info on this it'd be much appreciated. Will remove my tier AND save me 10 bux a mont (w000ts).

I didn't see anything about this on the website, and although I could email LL I doubt they'd be pushing each other out of the way to be the first to help me give them less money.

Thanks!!! and w000ts END STIPENDS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jonas Pierterson
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Join date: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 3,660
05-26-2006 14:55
From: Rasah Tigereye
Oh, you're not a spoiled rich brat, you're just someone who's not smart enough to get a good job iRL, and too dumb to figure out when they're being screwed in game as well. Every day you hold on to your $500L without spending it, you're throwing it away. Every day that the economy goes down, your money is being thrown away. Fact is same applies to your RL money and income as well (you actually earn anywhere from %1 to %3 LESS every year), although luckily the US$ inflation isn't nearly as bad.

Oh, and you are loosing money by selling things in game cheaply. You loose $10 (minus land tied tier fees) a month doing that.


I'm not losing money, I'm paying to play a game. Its a philosophical choice to exist off of linden exchange or real world money, and I choose to leave my lindens in game.

Now I'll take my 9.50$ an hour job and keep it, thanks. I happen to enjoy the physicalaity of my work, it keeps a good balance and helps keep me in shape, unlike a desk job. I could also go work in the medical field and easily make 14/hour. But I DON'T. Because its a balance of reward versus stress. I KNOW my stipend is losing 'value' in your mindset, but it isn't in mine because I refuse to pay the higher prices. People like Lewis are the ones getting my business now, those doing it for the JOY of it and not to make a real world profit.

A philosophical choice is far different that 'dumb.'
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Jonas Pierterson
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05-26-2006 14:57
From: Rasah Tigereye
Um... because you play on their land and use their content, ideas, and contributions to comunity and society of SL? Just a guess. You can afford $10 a month of $72 a year. Others can't really afford $400 a month or $3000 a year (some as much as $10,000 a year). Bit of a diff there.


Buying an island isn't a requirement to play SL. Their choice, their consequences.
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I must protest. I am not a merry man! - Warf, ST: TNG, episode: Qpid

You killed my father. Prepare to die. - Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride

You killed My father. Your a-- is mine! - Hellboy
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