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Although i prefer a solution where LL creates a super cool function/feature which you only get if you voluntarily drop your stipend.
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Mad Wombat
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05-26-2006 03:38
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Although i prefer a solution where LL creates a super cool function/feature which you only get if you voluntarily drop your stipend. Sign me up as a premium user. |
CJ Christensen
Secondlife chilled GURU
Join date: 23 Dec 2005
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05-26-2006 03:45
Premium account stippend will never die and at an estimate 70% of us ( the silent majority) want to keep our weekly 500L stipend.
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Kazanture Aleixandre
Here I am.
Join date: 5 Oct 2005
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05-26-2006 03:58
Premium account stippend will never die and at an estimate 70% of us ( the silent majority) want to keep our weekly 500L stipend. weekly payment to the residents was over 3000L$ at the ancient times of SL, with a base 1000L$. with less than 20K residents. Now it is 500L$, and sl has over 200K residents. And noone is complaining about why it reduced to 500L$. When it becomes 250L$, people will still be happy. I have no problem with stipends actually. My problem is money supply>>>>> money sinks. If you want to save your stipends; there is only one solution. Come with money sink ideas. |
Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
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05-26-2006 04:43
Okay, so today LL announced, that going forward, all new basic account holders would not receive a weekly L$50 stipend. That is a good start. I say that it is time for all Premium Account holders who say/think that stipends are a major chain on the economy to voluntarily request that their weekly stipend payments be stopped without asking anything in return--accept the hope for a healthier economy. I will be the first to request that LL stop paying me my weekly L$500 stipend. Who's next? I paid for my stipend, no way gaijin! If you want to do the finger cut go for it! |
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
Posts: 277
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05-26-2006 05:22
Screw you, that's my upload and ad money. I pop my 500L and more on textures and animations. I have to upload the product, then the picture of the product. Then the ad sign. Now I'm going to make notecard giver textures, open a new stall, and buy another ad. And take pictures. Let's keep this civil. If you have read my initial thread and subsequent posts here, you can clearly see that I have no problem with those who want to keep their stipends. This thread is for those who want to stand up to their conviction about the negative impact of stipends on the SL economy. Even if a resident believes that stipends have a bad affect BUT they cannot afford to give them up, that is fine. It is a personal decision. Please respect our decisions like I respect your position. And for the record, I'm a content creator also. I'm using my stipends to upload textures and new clothing designs that I've made so that I can open a store. But I do not want hand outs--even if the contract guarantees them. If my store makes money, then I'll use the proceeds to upload more textures. If not, I will eventually close shop. This is the way it is in real life too. Besides, L$500 is less than US$ 2. If I need more Lindens, I can always give up something in RL that costs me $2 each week. I don't drink coffee, but how many people spend more than that on one silly Starbucks. In RL, if you want to run a business or have fun, it costs money--money that you made. It cost you RL money to sign up as a premium account member in the first place. See the thing is that the only people bitching about the economy are people with oogobs of lindens to sell. The rest of us are happily trudging about, minding our own business, buying lindens on lindex, and spending our stipends. At your stores. Giving you oogobs of lindens to sell... So you cry out for stipends to be removed and you don't care one bit for those people who have premium accounts and who spend that 500 and no more. Let them buy it on Lindex you say. You just don't care as long as you are still getting your cash. And you bitch and moan and whine about how we don't care and how LL doesn't care that you've made a business out of this. And you are right. I don't care. Because you don't. From where I sit -- it looks like all you care is your money. And you are asking me to care about this to and, well, I just don't. Just like you don't care about mine. Just like you don't care that I don't really want a job in SL because, well, y'know I have one. In the real world. I don't need or want to work a second job in SL. So no I won't volunteer to give up my stipends. This is something that was promised to me as part of a premium account and other than having land, there's really no reason to have a premium account if I don't get a stipend. Vivianne, I repeat. Don't turn this into a personal attack. You do not know me so you cannot accurately state that "I" don't care. I do not have "oogobs" of Lindens to sell. I do not currently make any money in SL. I just spend it. I care about the overall health of SL and I am acting to do what I feel will help. The issue with stipends is not the only problem with the SL economy (as Jonas points out), but it is a big one. If you want to keep your stipends, that's fine. You should. This is a volunteer program only. Premium account stippend will never die and at an estimate 70% of us ( the silent majority) want to keep our weekly 500L stipend. You're probably correct in your estimate, CJ. It could even be higher. That is why this is a volunteer program. I paid for my stipend, no way gaijin! If you want to do the finger cut go for it! ![]() |
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
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05-26-2006 05:27
Updated list of residents who are opting out of premium account stipends (L$500/wk):
1. Me (Bloop Cork) 2. Nicole David 3. kerunix Flan 4. Kazanture Aleixandre (welcome on board!) 5. Mad Wombat (welcome on board!) Updated list of residents who are opting out of basic account stipends (L$50/wk): 1. Rasah Tigereye (two basic accounts) 2. Merhain Speculaas (welcome on board!) We're at L$2650 per week. How many more residents do we need? Uh, too MANY! Keep going! Remember, this is a volunteer program only. If you want to keep your stipends that is perfectly fine. You do not have to state that here. Who's next? |
aEoLuS Waves
Koffie?
Join date: 10 Jun 2005
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increase our stippends with the market rate..
05-26-2006 05:42
I think LL should increase our stippends with the market rate..
And if that market rate goes down our stipends could go down too.. _____________________
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Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
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05-26-2006 05:49
I think LL should increase our stippends with the market rate.. And if that market rate goes down our stipends could go down too.. In a different thread I have posted the similar idea. As it currently stands, stipends are the biggest source of new money creation. This unbalances the economy over time. Therefore, stipends could be indexed to the currency market in an inverse relationship. |
Yumi Murakami
DoIt!AttachTheEarOfACat!
Join date: 27 Sep 2005
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05-26-2006 06:04
There is already a script that does this on the Library page.
Instead of adding your names to a list, which LL might or might not pay attention to, why not grab that script and attach it and start giving up your stipend right now? |
Cannae Brentano
NeoTermite
Join date: 21 Apr 2006
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05-26-2006 06:09
Adjusting stipends to market rate is in direct conflict with the goal of voluntarily giving up stipends.
If premium stipends are ended without replacing it with something else, only landowners will have premium accounts. THere is simply no other reason to have premium. There are also a lot of players who are unable to make 500 lindens per week working in SL either. There need to be more jobs, especially for newer players. In addition, these jobs need to be fun somehow to those who are working them. There needs to be something that new/poor players can do to contribute to the game, via doing more work that benefits established players, so that players with money will actually benefit by hiring others. Solve that and you've solved most of the economic problems. |
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
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05-26-2006 06:14
Adjusting stipends to market rate is in direct conflict with the goal of voluntarily giving up stipends. I was responding to a post in a thread that I started. But, you are correct. I have taken my own thread off topic. I apologize. |
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
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05-26-2006 06:32
There is already a script that does this on the Library page. Instead of adding your names to a list, which LL might or might not pay attention to, why not grab that script and attach it and start giving up your stipend right now? Really? Are you talking about the LSL scripting Library? I went there and could not find any library script having to do with stipends. What are you referring to and how does it work? Was it created by LL or someone else? Do you remember the name of the script? If it was created by LL, then I'll use it. If it was created by a third-party coder, then I'll pass since I imagine LL would not allow scripters to use LSL to control how stipends are handled. But, please correct me if I'm wrong. Still, the purpose of this thread, whether LL reads it or not, is to let people voluntarily opt out of their weekly stipends and show that they stand by their convictions. If someone wants to but cannot afford to, therefore cannot fairly demonstrate their convictions, they can post here and say just that. |
Ranma Tardis
沖縄弛緩の明確で青い水
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05-26-2006 06:40
Really? Are you talking about the LSL scripting Library? I went there and could not find any library script having to do with stipends. What are you referring to and how does it work? Was it created by LL or someone else? Do you remember the name of the script? If it was created by LL, then I'll use it. If it was created by a third-party coder, then I'll pass since I imagine LL would not allow scripters to use LSL to control how stipends are handled. But, please correct me if I'm wrong. Still, the purpose of this thread, whether LL reads it or not, is to let people voluntarily opt out of their weekly stipends and show that they stand by their convictions. If someone wants to but cannot afford to, therefore cannot fairly demonstrate their convictions, they can post here and say just that. My last post on this thread. I think not writing something is giving the quiet approval. Thus one last time, I reject voluntarily giving up my only source of Lindens! I reject it today, tommorow and forever! |
Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
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05-26-2006 06:41
Amusing.. all the people crying out for stipends to be cut yet so few volunteer to give it up. Thats a shocker.
OP, I think this is wonderful and respect what youre doing. |
Eggy Lippmann
Wiktator
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05-26-2006 06:49
Why stop at $500? You can drain all the money you want from the economy by simply paying governor linden.
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Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
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05-26-2006 06:51
OP, I think this is wonderful and respect what youre doing. So do I. Bloop you rock. I haven't even called for an end to stipends, but I appreciate what you are doing, so I want to support it, and I'm not actually concerned whether I get a stipend or not. As such, I give up mine. If there is a worthy cause that provides something benefical to the community, and is non-profit, that needs L$500 a week for something like classifieds, that is, it will all go into a sink, feel free to post here, and I'll get in touch, or IM or PM me. Add my name to the list. _____________________
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Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
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05-26-2006 06:53
When it becomes 250L$, people will still be happy. I won't. |
Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
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05-26-2006 07:02
Why stop at $500? You can drain all the money you want from the economy by simply paying governor linden. *imagines governor logging in with about 5 people paying him 500L* what do you think his thought would be? a shrug? a look of general confusion? |
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
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05-26-2006 07:14
Why stop at $500? You can drain all the money you want from the economy by simply paying governor linden. ![]() |
Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
Join date: 27 Apr 2006
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05-26-2006 07:15
Amusing.. all the people crying out for stipends to be cut yet so few volunteer to give it up. Thats a shocker. OP, I think this is wonderful and respect what youre doing. Thanks, Dhalia! You're spot on. |
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
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05-26-2006 07:16
I haven't seen chicken little or the mooninite volunteer yet.
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Bloop Cork
This space for sale.
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05-26-2006 07:17
So do I. Bloop you rock. I haven't even called for an end to stipends, but I appreciate what you are doing, so I want to support it, and I'm not actually concerned whether I get a stipend or not. As such, I give up mine. If there is a worthy cause that provides something benefical to the community, and is non-profit, that needs L$500 a week for something like classifieds, that is, it will all go into a sink, feel free to post here, and I'll get in touch, or IM or PM me. Add my name to the list. Thanks, Fade. I'll add your name. If you get someone with a worthy cause you wish to support, just let me know and I'll create a third category and switch you to that list instead. |
Jonas Pierterson
Dark Harlequin
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05-26-2006 07:20
Thanks, Fade. I'll add your name. If you get someone with a worthy cause you wish to support, just let me know and I'll create a third category and switch you to that list instead. Shelter is good. hell, running classifieds for Teazers education is good. |
Dhalia Unsung
confused not conditioned
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05-26-2006 07:21
Thanks, Dhalia! You're spot on. and i think you're a bit of alright. now im still waiting for all those screaming for stipends to be cut to volunteer theirs. Step right up folks! |
Fade Languish
I just build stuff...
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05-26-2006 07:23
Thanks, Fade. I'll add your name. If you get someone with a worthy cause you wish to support, just let me know and I'll create a third category and switch you to that list instead. If no-one steps forward, Governor Linden can have it directly. Either way I'll let him know I don't want it. _____________________
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