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Land Sale Mistake !!!!!

Ellie Edo
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05-21-2005 08:51
From: Nathan Stewart
As i said have you never seen anybody log into someones account and do something for them


Why would anyone lend someone their avi to live and build somewhere for weeks ? Or risk giving someone their password just to click two boxes for them, preventing them learning anything ? If it's done, its a serious violation of the TOS. Its a pathetic attempt at justification. That way anyone can repudiate anything they ever do here or ever say here. Nonsense.

No spying. No prior grievance. Just coincidence that I regularly visited someone two plots ove while she was there. I note you don't deny it. But for the coincidence you would have got away with this untruth.

Try not to personalise everything. I describe your statement as a lie simply because, by a fluke, I know it to be so. I don't say you are a habitual liar. Just that this one statement was a lie, and using a lie to bolster ones position in an argument is pathetic. The behaviour. Not you as a human being.

You may otherwise be a great person. You are just trying to stick up for a friend, but you went a bit too far, don't you think ? Why not be honest and apologise ? What you said simply wasn't true.
Nathan Stewart
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05-21-2005 09:11
From: Ellie Edo
Why would anyone lend someone their avi to live and build somewhere for weeks ? Or risk giving someone their password just to click two boxes for them, preventing them learning anything ? If it's done, its a serious violation of the TOS. Its a pathetic attempt at justification. That way anyone can repudiate anything they ever do here or ever say here. Nonsense.

No spying. No prior grievance. Just coincidence that I regularly visited someone two plots ove while she was there. I note you don't deny it. But for the coincidence you would have got away with this untruth.

Try not to personalise everything. I describe your statement as a lie simply because, by a fluke, I know it to be so. I don't say you are a habitual liar. Just that this one statement was a lie, and using a lie to bolster ones position in an argument is pathetic. The behaviour. Not you as a human being.

You may otherwise be a great person. You are just trying to stick up for a friend, but you went a bit too far, don't you think ? Why not be honest and apologise ? What you said simply wasn't true.


I think i said logging on to do a single job in my post, you told me to read the post more thouroughly maybe you should take your own advice, as far as sharing accounts and passwords it happens all the time, its fully acceptable in the tos as long as the person realises they accept any action that happen through the sharing of such details, please read section 2.4

I did not live there, i did some building there but under my own av and sold the items to her. As for the rest you called me a liar, your statement is wrong, i've now reported your post and have been advised to mute you.

So goodbye ellie, I would normally wish you happiness or something like that but im not sure if that means more arguing, to me it just means smiles, friendship and goodtimes.
Loki Pico
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05-21-2005 10:00
You two are just trying to lock this thread right? You both said you would let it drop so quit trying to get the last word and let this thread die already.
Nickiam Solvang
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05-21-2005 10:20
I learned the story of this lot after I bought some of it. While personnally I don't think LL should do anything about these kind of grievances, I pride myself on running an ethical business and I'd like to chat with the original owner about my plans. Sasi, please contact me ingame.

Nickiam Solvang
shad Bomazi
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land sale mistake
05-21-2005 10:27
Ellie you haven't read sasi's post properly she said quote " i was hysterical and didn't see what was said, i was trying to get someone over to help" She wasn't say she was hysterical and calling her anything, as for how long sasi owned the land that doesn't matter one bit, if its your first time at breaking land up and selling then mistakes could be made. As i said in first post what has happened is morally and ethically wrong no matter what was said after the event, and any person with morals would have known it was mistake and sold the land back at price paid. But we don't always get those kind of people in these programs do we, sadly. I agree with Nat i think there is more to your posts then meet the eye, ulterior motives maybe, but we shall see eventually.
Angela Robertson
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05-21-2005 11:51
You know this whole thread has made me think twice about purchasing land. I was looking at land all week and was going to buy 2,048 meters of land. Glad I didn't. I was more than willing to tier up and pay my $15 a month and be a land owner. But, since all this has happened I think I will just not buy land at all. Live and learn I guess. Sickening.
Jesse Brearly
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05-21-2005 12:20
From: Nickiam Solvang
I learned the story of this lot after I bought some of it. While personnally I don't think LL should do anything about these kind of grievances, I pride myself on running an ethical business and I'd like to chat with the original owner about my plans. Sasi, please contact me ingame.

Nickiam Solvang


While I respect your view on this issue and I do not think LL should take away your land that you thought you legally obtained. If LL wants to be the biggest land baron in the game then they do need to settle grievances which involved their land.

The more I see and hear about mainland problems the more I am glad I no longer willing to deal with LL land. I do have someone very willing to step in and handle my greivances withthe land I "lease" and I am very glad for that.
Enabran Templar
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05-21-2005 12:29
From: Angela Robertson
You know this whole thread has made me think twice about purchasing land. I was looking at land all week and was going to buy 2,048 meters of land. Glad I didn't. I was more than willing to tier up and pay my $15 a month and be a land owner. But, since all this has happened I think I will just not buy land at all. Live and learn I guess. Sickening.


Of all the reasons one might find to not buy land, this thread is a wildly silly one. Not sure if this was actually a truthful statement or if you just posted to make a point.

I've owned land at varying tier levels in SL since September of '04. Never had a whit of trouble.
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Ellie Edo
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05-21-2005 18:03
It's really sad that so many people here find it hard to believe that other posters might take issue against undefended witch-hunts and deliberate falsehoods based on principle.

What a sad view of the world, that no one could possibly become involved in an issue without hidden personal axes to grind. It was a total coincidence that I happened to see Sasi living and building in Star a couple of months ago. There were no issues between us. Thats how I knew the claim she was a newbie who had never before sold land was false. Coincidence.

Some of you people have become so jaundiced by all the forum bitching and hysteria you no longer can believe anyone might have honest motives.

The longer I live the more I learn that every story has two sides. More of you should try to remember that. I could get philosophical but I've posted more on this than I should. I had intended to stop, but an out-and-out lie was a bit too much to let pass.

I've stopped now, I promise, unless the alleged perpetrator joins in with his take on the situation, thus providing new information. How interesting that woud be.

ANGELA: Don't worry. Just ensure you always keep the "for sale" box unticked until the last moment when everything is double checked. Hardly rocket-science.
Plexore Lumiere
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05-21-2005 18:11
This is ridiculous! There is not one thing which is fair about this sale. Whoever bought this land from Sasi knows he/she is STEALING from Sasi. Those who bought it from that person are innocent. Making the argument that the sale was fair is ludicrous. The land sale interface is very poor right now. There are NO confirmation dialogs for setting the price. It is way too easy to enter a '0' on a parcel. Not only that, but the dialog doesn't even have to be closed! There shouldn't even be a discussion on this. The land is Sasi's until she chooses to sell it at a price which is CONFIRMED, not at a price which is accidentally entered when she was in the process of immediately correcting. I hope the Lindens come through for you and fix this. At the very least, LL should take responsibility for the poor land sale interface and provide compensation for your loss.

In the mean time, everyone should be extra careful when selling things!

I hope this all works out for you Sasi!
Sasi Bomazi
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05-21-2005 18:48
Ellie...I have never once denied owning other land...I have NEVER divided land before. I have been here since February 2005.....the issue here is about the land I just lost....what is your problem????? You are either involved in this or work for LL
Sensual Casanova
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05-21-2005 20:12
Once upon a time in Leda, the land I was buying was set for $1 for anyone to buy, and it was supposed to be set for me to buy, luckily this person was nice enough to give it back... but there was a Linden there that would have made her give it back if she wasnt willing... The lindens should help you, this is sad :) Please IM me the name of the epeople that are doing this to you... making you pay more is just cruel :(
Ellie Edo
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05-21-2005 20:34
To Sasi:
From: Nathan Stewart
it was her first land sale.

This is what I was responding to, Sasi. Not very significant, except that it was untrue, as you confirm.
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Sasi - Did you offer to refund the buyers US$125 tier cost which she incurred because of your mistake ? When you requested she return the land to you ? Do you see how significant this question is ?

Do you think your hysteria, and the accusations of theft, and her lost $125, might just possibly have had just the teensiest influence on her willingness to do the generous thing ?
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To other posters:

Please note. I have NEVER said that what this person did was fine and acceptable. Just that I refuse to leap to judgement when I haven't heard the other side of the story. Its not a straight choice between "fine" and "stealing". The precise circumstances affect the moral conclusion. How about this as just a possibility for what was going on inside the buyers head:

1. Seized an opportunity which just might have been genuine, and would probably have been lost to another person on the slightest hesitation. Little time to consider. Given longer, might have acted better.
2. Maybe would have sold it back at no loss, until confronted with hysteria and abuse, rejection of the right to recover the lost US$125, and ludicrous claims of US$2000 value.
3. Lindens turn up, and tell her she need not return it.
4. Though thoroughly antagonised and insulted, nevertheless offers to return a big chunk of the money via a partial below-value buy back. Actually sets the land up for this. Offer rejected.
5. Feels this rejection releases any remaining obligation.
8. Maybe is in desperate straights for RL money, and consoles herself by arguing that someone who will throw US$2000 into an insecure game, and can show such disregard for money as carelessly to pay more than twice the true land value, must have money to burn. Persuading self it was an act of fate coming to her rescue.

Please note - I am not saying this is true. I'm just trying to give you a glimpse of what it might be like inside someone elses mind.

I'm also suggesting that Sasi may well have failed to use a little courtesy and respect for others positions. If she had, the outcome might have been very different. My evidence for suggesting this is her amazingly aggressive and uncompromising post a few pages back. The one with "TUFF!!!" and "KISS MY ASS!!!!"

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Yep - You're right people. I failed. Posting again. I'd better just stop reading this thread, I think. I get too involved, don't I? Even though the underdog I try to defend may quite possibly be just the baddie you all have concluded. I got this justice obsession, I suppose. Something from my childhood, maybe. Ah well.
Sasi Bomazi
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05-21-2005 20:41
You are a pitiful person Ellie...I'm not responding to anymore of your bs.
Susie Boffin
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05-21-2005 20:52
I don't understand this thread at all and gave up trying to after reading all of the accusations and name calling. If someone accidentially sells land at an incorrect price what is the problem with the buyer returning the land and the seller refunding the money? Anyone in their right mind would do this with no questions asked despite any attitude issues going on.
Ellie Edo
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05-21-2005 21:13
How lovely it must be, Susie, to live in a world of black and white, where no-one gets their back up when confronted by hysterical accusations and abuse, instead of apologies and polite requests. A world where everyone happily pays US$125 to correct the mistake of the person abusing them.

That MAY be exactly how it was. We are all flawed people, Susie, but flawed in different ways.

I sometimes think some of you people are simply incapable of seeing the finer gradations, or separating significant factors out from the irrelevant.
Or empathising with anyone who isn't bending your ear right nhere, right now, with emotional appeals.

HOW ABOUT THE US$125, SUSIE ?
Significant? Insignificant? Why not ignore it, like everyone else? Or type "TUFF!!!" ?
Read how Sasi responded to this in forum. Imagine how she responded in game.

Of course you are right, Susie about what would be nicest in an ideal world.

But we are dealing with real people here, and all the complexity and moral ambivalence of their subtle interactions. How they treat each other. What emotional baggage they bring, and arouse.

Sheesh !

Can't you see how in all probability BOTH parties behaved badly, and subconsciously cooperated together to create the unfortunate outcome which resulted.

Kindergarten, anyone ?
Dennie Bliss
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05-21-2005 21:13
From: Ellie Edo
To Sasi:

This is what I was responding to, Sasi. Not very significant, except that it was untrue, as you confirm.
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Sasi - Did you offer to refund the buyers US$125 tier cost which she incurred because of your mistake ? When you requested she return the land to you ? Do you see how significant this question is ?

Do you think your hysteria, and the accusations of theft, and her lost $125, might just possibly have had just the teensiest influence on her willingness to do the generous thing ?
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To other posters:

Please note. I have NEVER said that what this person did was fine and acceptable. Just that I refuse to leap to judgement when I haven't heard the other side of the story. Its not a straight choice between "fine" and "stealing". The precise circumstances affect the moral conclusion. How about this as just a possibility for what was going on inside the buyers head:

1. Seized an opportunity which just might have been genuine, and would probably have been lost to another person on the slightest hesitation. Little time to consider. Given longer, might have acted better.
2. Maybe would have sold it back at no loss, until confronted with hysteria and abuse, rejection of the right to recover the lost US$125, and ludicrous claims of US$2000 value.
3. Lindens turn up, and tell her she need not return it.
4. Though thoroughly antagonised and insulted, nevertheless offers to return a big chunk of the money via a partial below-value buy back. Actually sets the land up for this. Offer rejected.
5. Feels this rejection releases any remaining obligation.
8. Maybe is in desperate straights for RL money, and consoles herself by arguing that someone who will throw US$2000 into an insecure game, and can show such disregard for money as carelessly to pay more than twice the true land value, must have money to burn. Persuading self it was an act of fate coming to her rescue.

Please note - I am not saying this is true. I'm just trying to give you a glimpse of what it might be like inside someone elses mind.

I'm also suggesting that Sasi may well have failed to use a little courtesy and respect for others positions. If she had, the outcome might have been very different. My evidence for suggesting this is her amazingly aggressive and uncompromising post a few pages back. The one with "TUFF!!!" and "KISS MY ASS!!!!"

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Yep - You're right people. I failed. Posting again. I'd better just stop reading this thread, I think. I get too involved, don't I? Even though the underdog I try to defend may quite possibly be just the baddie you all have concluded. I got this justice obsession, I suppose. Something from my childhood, maybe. Ah well.


Ellie, You make some very valid points. The same thing happen to me. I was looking at the land sale, trying to decide where to buy some land, when I saw a big piece come up at a very nice price. I thougth this is awfully cheap. But maybe it's someone who has to tier down like right now. Regardless I wanted to get it before someone else did. It was a tough decision to make because it would have bumped me up to $75 and my payment date wasn't that far away.

So I bought it and was sitting on the land when the seller came up and I asked her if she could leave her waterfall. She still hadn't understood her mistake. When she did, she asked for it right back. As bad as I felt for her, I knew if I gave it right back, I would be stuck with a $75 tier payment. At this point she offered to pay me $75, which would have been okay. I was a little disappointed. We called Lindens, told our story. The Linden told me to write to Billing and see if they would reverse the tier payment. When they did I sold it back to her and I think she gave me $1k which was nice.

I did waste a lot of time and thought about keeping the land but I would have felt too guilty in the long run.

But maybe because this situation erupted and the buyer didn't want to get stuck with a $125 tier fee, they reacted differently.
Susie Boffin
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05-21-2005 21:23
From: Ellie Edo
How lovely it must be, Susie, to live in a world of black and white, where no-one gets their back up when confronted by hysterical accusations and abuse, instead of apologies and polite requests. A world where everyone happily pays US$125 to correct the mistake of the person abusing them.

That MAY be exactly how it was. We are all flawed people, Susie, but flawed in different ways.

I sometimes think some of you people are simply incapable of seeing the finer gradations, or separating significant factors out from the irrelevant.
Or empathising with anyone who isn't bending your ear right nhere, right now, with emotional appeals.

HOW ABOUT THE US$125, SUSIE ?
Significant? Insignificant? Why not ignore it, like everyone else? Or type "TUFF!!!" ?
Read how Sasi responded to this in forum. Imagine how she responded in game.

Of course you are right, Susie about what would be nicest in an ideal world.

But we are dealing with real people here, and all the complexity and moral ambivalence of their subtle interactions. How they treat each other. What emotional baggage they bring, and arouse.

Sheesh !

Can't you see how in all probability BOTH parties behaved badly, and subconsciously cooperated together to create the unfortunate outcome which resulted.

Kindergarten, anyone ?


Yes it is quite lovely. :)
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05-21-2005 22:14
From: Enabran Templar
Of all the reasons one might find to not buy land, this thread is a wildly silly one. Not sure if this was actually a truthful statement or if you just posted to make a point.

I've owned land at varying tier levels in SL since September of '04. Never had a whit of trouble.

I betcha she's being serious. It's the sort of thing I always think when I read things like this - that I'm glad I don't buy or sell land.

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Lynn Lippmann
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05-21-2005 22:44
From: Ellie Edo
I sometimes think some of you people...
Sheesh !
Kindergarten, anyone ?


Well, this about summarizes everything you've posted so far.

Number one, I was taught that it's never polite to point and say "you people."

Second, I was always taught to share in kindergarden, not to fight, and above all, honesty -- you don't cheat. It's not nice to steal the other kid's lunch money.

So here's your lesson for today, let's see if you can complete the homework assignment with a bit of help:

Clue #1, stop thinking. It's getting you into trouble.
Clue #2, stop posting. These types of words will come back to haunt you one day.
Clue #3, stop eating the white paste.
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Ellie Edo
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05-21-2005 23:25
Yes Lynn, your quote nicely expresses my growing sense of exasperation at the simpleminded, kindergarten style approach to morality which is in evidence here. The childish inability to recognise, let alone respond to, or address, the subtleties of genuine adult human interactions.

Why do you, like so many others, decline to post on topic, but just keep posting about other peoples posts?

Is the buyer fairly proven guilty ? Are there no extenuating factors ? Do you find the witnesses calm and reliable? How much provocation was there ? What might be said in the other direction ? Did the complainant act with reasonable politeness and courtesy?
why did the Lindens decide against her ? Was she fair to reject the US$125 cost of rectifying her mistake?

An SL resident has been absolutely castigated here. En masse almost. On the word of someone who confesses to having been hysterical, and who posts so aggressively we can glimpse the likely nature of the interchange. One poster has banned the accused from all their land. A huge riot of self-righteousness. The persons name has been been made easily accessible, in violation of forum rules.

Yet you find your last contribution to be suitable and appropriate ? To address the issues ?

Unbelievable! Another poster floating free in the airy-fairy land of kindergarten simplicity. Unperturbed by any of those nasty old facts, or issues, or complexities, or personalities.

Black/white cardboard cutout universe of bad guys and good guys and nothing in between.

You didn't address, or even recognise the existence of, even one point relevant to this persons alleged crime, Lynn.

You wonder I get exasperated, and finally start talking about "you people". I mean it. This simpleminded witch hunting worries me.
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05-21-2005 23:46
From: Ellie Edo
Yes Lynn, your quote nicely expresses my growing sense of exasperation at the simpleminded, kindergarten style approach to morality which is in evidence here. The childish inability to recognise, let alone respond to, or address, the subtleties of genuine adult human interactions.

Why do you, like so many others, decline to post on topic, but just keep posting about other peoples posts?

Is the buyer fairly proven guilty ? Are there no extenuating factors ? Do you find the witnesses calm and reliable? How much provocation was there ? What might be said in the other direction ? Did the complainant act with reasonable politeness and courtesy?
why did the Lindens decide against her ? Was she fair to reject the US$125 cost of rectifying her mistake?

An SL resident has been absolutely castigated here. En masse almost. On the word of someone who confesses to having been hysterical, and who posts so aggressively we can glimpse the likely nature of the interchange. One poster has banned the accused from all their land. A huge riot of self-righteousness. The persons name has been been made easily accessible, in violation of forum rules.

Yet you find your last contribution to be suitable and appropriate ? To address the issues ?

Unbelievable! Another poster floating free in the airy-fairy land of kindergarten simplicity. Unperturbed by any of those nasty old facts, or issues, or complexities, or personalities.

Black/white cardboard cutout universe of bad guys and good guys and nothing in between.

You didn't address, or even recognise the existence of, even one point relevant to this persons alleged crime, Lynn.

You wonder I get exasperated, and finally start talking about "you people". I mean it. This simpleminded witch hunting worries me.

I thought you said you were going to stop? Obviously you have some deep personal interest in this case or you would not be making such misthought attacks. If everyone is taking one side in this affair it must be because the other party has not made an appearance in this forum , even though they are well aware of the controversy. You yourself, though, continue to miss the point. It doesn't matter how new or old an account is that is having problems of this type, since the mechanism is agreed by all to be flawed and even veteran players have been caught. The name of the person who bought the land has never been mentioned by anyone, so there are no miscreants here and TOS has not been violated. I think you presume too much when you assume that Linden Lab has made any kind of a decision yet. The sim may be rolled back at any time and tier is not a factor as it is a charge that is easily refunded, just as all subsequent sales of land involved may be voided.
And oh; Lynn is not someone you want to piss off or she will have your toes... :eek:
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05-22-2005 00:54
From: David Cartier
I thought you said you were going to stop? Obviously you have some deep personal interest in this case or you would not be making such misthought attacks. If everyone is taking one side in this affair it must be because the other party has not made an appearance in this forum , even though they are well aware of the controversy. You yourself, though, continue to miss the point. It doesn't matter how new or old an account is that is having problems of this type, since the mechanism is agreed by all to be flawed and even veteran players have been caught. The name of the person who bought the land has never been mentioned by anyone, so there are no miscreants here and TOS has not been violated. I think you presume too much when you assume that Linden Lab has made any kind of a decision yet. The sim may be rolled back at any time and tier is not a factor as it is a charge that is easily refunded, just as all subsequent sales of land involved may be voided.
And oh; Lynn is not someone you want to piss off or she will have your toes... :eek:


Yikes i only get to see ellies posts now because i get this message "This message is hidden because Ellie Edo is on your ignore list. " thank god for the ignore list

Sasi asked to buy the land back, the seller refused and laughed in her face, even refusing to negiotiate, the lindens wont even talk to her, see the post in hotline with her pleading for them to speak to her, i dont see why sasi should compensate someone 125$ for a tier when its due to LL's software thats at fault here which they have acknoledged in the same forum, and has been said, billing will rectify this if needed, but would be nice if someone from LL would actually speak with their customers, yanno the people paying them.
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05-22-2005 03:54
I have had this happen with a good friend who mistakenly released her land doing a group transfer, and at first Lindens could not care less, and would auction her land. Only through organised and total pressure by forum, email, phone did they FINALLY agree to let her have it back and rightly so. But we should have not had to run a huge campaign to get this decent behaviour from them.

I have had this myself when a friend set various parcels of land he had previous loaned to me, on which my STORE was built, then left the game. In his final week he made a mistake with just one of them and when he left it went to Linden land. Knowing the intentions of both people, the LIndens naturally ignored and refused to allow me the land and cleared all my content off it leaving a gaping hole. Some MONTHS later I recovered this land after fighting thru an auction on it against other bidders.

LAND release, land sale, land set for sale, its all too EASY to make a mistake, it MUST be tightened up, in same way that the locked objects Take was tightned and more. The buttons are too close together, and warnings MUST be put on.

Each time I hear such tales I am appalled at why also the LIndens knowing that is right and what is not do not step in and reverse such mistakes as this poster's thread has spoken of. It is about time they started being decent with people not bureaucrat about these type of mistakes. I agree with all of Lynn Lipman post, we should not have to wait while an obvious need for changes is repeatdly ignore.

AS for the person who bought this land, they have NO excuses. This is shown clearly by the fact they afterwards offered to sell it back for a huge profit. They knew it was wrong, they ignored that, stuck to the 'rules' only, used the fact that Lindens dont care enough in their favour to justify and they behaved with NO HONOUR, NO MANNERS, NO DECENCY. That is my opinion. Its possible to behave better. I know in past ive seen huge lots of a land for sale where wanted it, yet there is content on it,, and I am thinking ' is this genuine.. or a mistake?'. So I have WAITED... and I have IM the person to say ' are you sure'...? IN one or two times because i really wanted this land I have bought it THEN IM the owner previous and say ' I have bought this because it was for sale BUT are u sure, and if not I will give it you back for same money' and I have made SURE that auto delete isnt on, and that their objects stay there until I hear from them. You can believe that in the odd rare case where it WAS a mistake, the people concerned have been VERY VERY pleased that I have done this. OK I didn't get my land.. but THERE are more important things than PROFIT and GAIN!!!!

To me such manners are worth having and decent. The person who bought this land and profited by a player's mistake is worthy of all our contempt.
Ellie Edo
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05-22-2005 06:19
I just hate to see a lynch mob in full rampage, asking no questions, admitting no doubts.
There needs to be a defence attorney, and I'm playing that role.

As for the silence of the accused. A substantial proportion of a sample of residents, asked about the forums, replied "what forums ?".
As for the identity of the accused, I visted the clearly identified land, and read it in a moment.
As for the software, its not foolproof. Software never is. But that doesnt make this its fault. We work with what we have, and we should exercise care commensurate with the size of the risk. Dont tick "for sale" till eveything is double checked. How hard is that ?
As for my saying I'd stop posting. You are right of course. But then I realised. The defence attorney can't resign if the lynching is still moving to its climax.
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