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Siobhan Taylor
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01-20-2005 09:24
By the way, someone fish out the bit of the TOS that talks about posting private conversations to the forum. I know it's there since the Lindens use it all the time, but I'm too feted and inner to look for it right now, and my hedonism wants me to drink coffee instead.
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Amy Fauna
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01-20-2005 09:26
wow this idiot is still going at it...somoene shoot him with a tranq. make him give up for a day or two
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Usagi Musashi
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01-20-2005 09:32
People really do need a break from the game.........but flaming others is counter productive dont you think?!
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Siobhan Taylor
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01-20-2005 09:34
I agree. If Prokofy had a problem with a Live Helper, he should have spoken to a Linden. Instead, he attacked the group, and the group (including former members and supportive non-members) closed ranks to fight back. What else did you expect to happen?
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Amy Fauna
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01-20-2005 09:34
People really do need a break from the game.........but flaming others is counter productive dont you think?! counter productive, but entertaining! |
Usagi Musashi
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01-20-2005 09:41
counter productive, but entertaining! LOL but its just a game...........well to most it is.......... |
Amy Fauna
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01-20-2005 09:43
LOL but its just a game...........well to most it is.......... yes.... BUT ITS ENTERTAINING!!!!! ![]() |
Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
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01-20-2005 09:44
You know, Sioban, it's precisely the kind of high-handed, indignant, arrogant post like this containing a direct, personal attack with a sense of impunity that keeps me coming back to defend the right of new people to push back against the attitudes of the feted inner core that hinder the game. You've all viciously attacked me, revealing your true inner nature. You're not nice. And you behave abominably. Prokofy, you're the last person who should be complaining about arrogance. You've set a new benchmark for self-aggrandized BS... or would that be self-feted? ![]() _____________________
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Usagi Musashi
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01-20-2005 09:46
yes.... BUT ITS ENTERTAINING!!!!! ![]() LOL yes Bernie und Ert and join the group! LOL that is pure screwball entertainment! LOL |
Siobhan Taylor
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01-20-2005 09:48
You're not nice. And you behave abominably. Is that a personal attack? _____________________
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Reitsuki Kojima
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01-20-2005 09:49
I agree. If Prokofy had a problem with a Live Helper, he should have spoken to a Linden. Instead, he attacked the group, and the group (including former members and supportive non-members) closed ranks to fight back. What else did you expect to happen? I agree. If Prokofy had a problem with a Live Helper, he should have spoken to a Linden. Instead, he attacked the group, and the group (including former members and supportive non-members) closed ranks to fight back. What else did you expect to happen? Quoted twice because this is the smartest thing anyone has said in this entire thread. |
Usagi Musashi
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01-20-2005 09:50
Wow some people need to take a Bromo! LOL
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Usagi Musashi
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01-20-2005 09:51
Quoted twice because this is the smartest thing anyone has said in this entire thread. ok your the only one making sence in this threat.ok fine you win..........I take my rubby ducky and play some where else....... |
Lecktor Hannibal
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01-20-2005 09:51
Quoted twice because this is the smartest thing anyone has said in this entire thread. It has been said to him already Reitsuki, over and over. He chooses to ignore it so it bears repeating. _____________________
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Kathy Yamamoto
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01-20-2005 10:19
Er...we did. Read the posts. Paid, professional, courteous, supervised Lindens. Not leftists, liberals, and lunatics who hate commercialism and capitalism and want to spike anybody they see selling land and what they view to be more than the socialist $1/meter. First, I did read all the tedious posts. All of them. Well, except for the last two-thirds of the last five or ten by Procofky. But I'm pretty sure he was repeating himself. And I THOUGHT the topic here was how bady behaved the Helpers and Mentors are. So, what you guy REALLY want is to stop fellow users from helping each other AT ALL? Or you just don't want to allow them to wear paper hats while they do it? Anyway....So, now the Helper was a leftist? Come to sabotage capitalism? And who told you leftists don't like commercialism? I bet I've earned more Lindens than you have. And it wasn't by selling land at a buck a meter. ![]() Ya know, I think I'm about ready to conclude that YOU are a silly person, too. You're really not making a lot of sense. _____________________
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feniks Stone
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01-20-2005 10:27
This thread is like the living dead.
OMG someone shoot it with a Seburo Compact-eXploder. fen- _____________________
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Kathy Yamamoto
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01-20-2005 10:29
This thread is like the living dead. OMG someone shoot it with a Seburo Compact-eXploder. fen- I was actually just getting warmed up ![]() Sooner or later, one of them was gonna take the bait and flame on ![]() _____________________
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Jennyfur Peregrine
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01-20-2005 12:23
wow this idiot is still going at it...somoene shoot him with a tranq. make him give up for a day or two Prokofy is a joke. I'm enjoying this laugh riot that reads like practice sentences using the big bad vocabulary words from the GRE handbook. Its too fecking funny. ![]() _____________________
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Lisse Livingston
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01-20-2005 13:38
1. What have you done to offend me, and why should I hate you? 2. If I personally insult you, do you a) insult me back, b) accuse me of being childish, c) leave world, d) pecan pie 3. A live helper takes the 9:00 AM train to downtown Walla Walla, and needs to be there at 3:00 PM. The distance to be traversed is 300 miles. How fast must the train travel, if the conductor wishes to arrive on time? 4. Fill in the blank: _________ baron 1. Neglected to fix the voting at Show and Tell so your oversized entry wins 2. Rhubarb Pie 3. 50 m.p.h. 4. The Red _____________________
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Torley Linden
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01-20-2005 13:51
This thread is like the living dead. OMG someone shoot it with a Seburo Compact-eXploder. fen- Oh puleeze don't support Fran... she's an arms dealer. ![]() ^kidding of course Seriously though, with the personal attacks and all... it's just sad and doesn't help anyone. RRL = Really Redundant Loop _____________________
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Jessica Robertson
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01-20-2005 13:53
Originally Posted by Ardith Mifflin 1. What have you done to offend me, and why should I hate you? 2. If I personally insult you, do you a) insult me back, b) accuse me of being childish, c) leave world, d) pecan pie 3. A live helper takes the 9:00 AM train to downtown Walla Walla, and needs to be there at 3:00 PM. The distance to be traversed is 300 miles. How fast must the train travel, if the conductor wishes to arrive on time? 4. Fill in the blank: _________ baron 1. Nothing 2. B 3. 6 hours, 300 miles, 50 miles / hour 4. Red (Red Baron Pizza) |
Dyerbrook Parvenu
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01-20-2005 13:54
By the way, someone fish out the bit of the TOS that talks about posting private conversations to the forum. I know it's there since the Lindens use it all the time, but I'm too feted and inner to look for it right now, and my hedonism wants me to drink coffee instead. If you post a private conversation with names, that could be a violation of the TOS. But I didn't post a private conversation with names. I posted a conversation between myself and someone in public office wearing their Live Help hat as they used their position to bully me. There are times when you have to blow the whistle on things like that. And I have. It doesn't matter if I'm a kook or I exaggerate. I've done something legitimate and I stand by it. He has done something illegitimate, and if he comes on here and exposes his name, and tells me he is justified in his actions, that's his funeral. I'm not "on" medications nor do I need to be "on" something, if anything, refusing to be intimidated by Forum Harpies and Board Bullies is a sign of mental health and strength. I did not begin by attacking the institution of Live Helpers (I didn't even deal with Mentors, that was brought up later by others). I praised it in paragraph one of my initial post. I questioned one individual using the hat of Live Help to bully a person into lowering their land price and being condescending about someone's business in the game when it was really no business of his. If I pushed it way beyond all logical sense, to the annoyance of all, it's because I refuse to give ground on these principles: Live Helpers cannot do that. It is not good, professional, ethics. They need more training. I don't care if they are volunteers. Either the Lindens need to sift through a little better (others have come forward with complaints) or they need to rethink whether handing the job of mentoring to older players -- outsourcing work for free to save a buck -- is really worth it in the long run. I think it really is a bad business practice to create a fancy Concierge who is a high-paid permanent benefited in-house Linden to serve the high-end "power gamers," and leave the rank-and-file to the tender mercies of the Live Help. It creates more of a gulf in status and intensifies the class war. At what level will I get a Concierge -- owning half a sim? What if "half a sim" isn't all on the same sim? Or what happens on the day that a plot of land sells from half a sim and makes me less than a half-sim owner? That's all ridiculous. The Lindens should be providing the same level of paid, professional game help to all customers. I really question this. It's ok to question this system, it's ok to question how one individual got to get into this system given his bad attitude, and it's ok to question why there isn't more training, supervision, and instillation of more of a sense of customer relations ethics. Hell, it's more than ok, it's a legitimate demand of a customer and a citzen of a virtual world. That the feted have gone into a frenzy over this merely lends more credence to my theory -- they've had a free ride for too long and are feeling the pinch. I can well understand that after two years of being granted, incubated, ego-massaged at personal town meetings with the CEO himself, given personal announcements of events, had yourself highlighted in all kinds of programs and perks that you feel absolutely outraged that someone who hasn't had all those benefits -- and doesn't want them!!!! -- comes along here and says: the party is over. |
Surreal Farber
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01-20-2005 14:00
Forget to log out and clear your cookies Prokovy?
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Lecktor Hannibal
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01-20-2005 14:06
Beautiful !
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Surreal Farber
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01-20-2005 14:09
I can well understand that after two years of being granted, incubated, ego-massaged at personal town meetings with the CEO himself, given personal announcements of events, had yourself highlighted in all kinds of programs and perks that you feel absolutely outraged that someone who hasn't had all those benefits -- and doesn't want them!!!! -- comes along here and says: the party is over. Damn.. there was a party? No one invited me. ![]() Surreal |