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Ginn Fizz
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07-05-2005 21:53
No Kids!!! Ever!!!!!!!!! Any Where!!!!!!!! NOT EVEN IN RL!!!
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Keilaron Tomba
Free quality scripting
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07-06-2005 08:30
I know this is old, but it's already been revived today, so one more...
What we can do is, early on, seperate them and monitor them so that when the eventual deluge of minors joins, they won't be sneaking into mature sims; they'll have their own content. 1. They'll still try. 2. Their own content? Generated by who, LL? As already pointed out, LL is massively understaffed. They don't have the time for this. There's no air-tight plan that'll keep minors out of SL. No, but there's a difference between inviting them and trying to keep them out. _____________________
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Jsecure Hanks
Capitalist
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07-06-2005 08:35
I believe the teen grid is already active and minors are already housed there rendering any more discussion on this pointless.
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Laharl Fassbinder
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07-06-2005 09:45
I also agree, but unfortunally, theres no way to prove they are under 18.
And i really dont care if they are under than 18 or if they are more than 50. thats what i like about video games, you can disconnect from real life and play your char. i met 15y old that were really nice, and i met 25y old that were more dumb and stupid than my dog. so i think its nice of LL trying to include minors, since we cant keep them out anyway ![]() |
Heather Hathor
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Kids in SL
07-06-2005 09:58
Here's the problem that most of you are missing.....there are already kids in SL and you probably know at least 1! It is inevitable that kids will get into SL and are already in SL. There is no way to stop them unless they come up with a way to verify age when someone opens an account. Kids are there, lying about their age and using their daddy's cc to pay for thier account.
I don't believe SL is the place kids should be visiting by any means. But I am realistic about it and know that they are there. If I feel like someone I have met is underage, I just don't involve myself with that person. I don't agree with all the restrictions, rules, and laws to be made, it is SL after all, not RL. I like SL because it is everything that can't be in RL and the more laws that are made make it less like SL and more like RL. |
Severe Whiplash
A.K.A Ywoski Khan
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07-06-2005 10:01
What Part Of "the Teen Grid Is Already Up And Minors Are Housed There" Dont Any Of You Understand? Jesus Christ Quit Debating A Closed Case
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Nolan Nash
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07-06-2005 10:03
What Part Of "the Teen Grid Is Already Up And Minors Are Housed There" Dont Any Of You Understand? Jesus Christ Quit Debating A Closed Case What part of "you can't type in all caps" do you not understand? Apparently, necroposting really pisses some people off! ![]() _____________________
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pandastrong Fairplay
all bout the BANG POW NOW
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07-06-2005 10:03
Fold
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Byron McHenry
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07-06-2005 10:12
so then what happen when rock crash agints them selfs they become destroyed none of you have posted a actual reason o ther than the adult content, and actually some post are just are just as bad the minors that you bash.
adult content is the only reason to keep them out. if all a person dose is hang around sillyness all the time they will never grow up becuase they never learn to do better. and people like to say well their parent should be doing this. well that dosent change the fact that they probly just arent. shutting the problem out of view wont change that. fact is these problmes come about because of lack of information such as sandbox rules or the combat simsno one knows about them till a war starts..most 18-25 year old are immature anyway or can be if they choose to be. determining if some one is a minor is harder then policeing the minors them self. |
Colette Meiji
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07-06-2005 10:23
so then what happen when rock crash agints them selfs they become destroyed none of you have posted a actual reason o ther than the adult content, and actually some post are just are just as bad the minors that you bash. adult content is the only reason to keep them out. if all a person dose is hang around sillyness all the time they will never grow up becuase they never learn to do better. and people like to say well their parent should be doing this. well that dosent change the fact that they probly just arent. shutting the problem out of view wont change that. fact is these problmes come about because of lack of information such as sandbox rules or the combat simsno one knows about them till a war starts..most 18-25 year old are immature anyway or can be if they choose to be. determining if some one is a minor is harder then policeing the minors them self. (Title 47 of the U.S. code, Section 231): "Whoever, in interstate or foreign commerce, by means of the World Wide Web, knowingly makes any communication for commercial purposes that includes any material that is harmful to minors without restricting access to such material by minors pursuant to subsection(c) should be fined not more than $50,000, imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both." Clearly Linden Labs "restricts access" thats what the credit card verification is. Like has already been posted there is a Teen Grid availble. Those minors that are on the Adult Grid on their Parents CC .. are violating the TOS, and should be banned if caught. As they already are. These things are adressed. I was against the teen grid, I wont let my teens on it. But I think its done already, Im not going to endlessly tilt at windmills. I think people are correct in saying , this horse is dead, stop beating it. |
MrsJakal Suavage
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07-06-2005 10:28
I never posted in this thread...so i thought i would
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Nolan Nash
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07-06-2005 10:31
so then what happen when rock crash agints them selfs they become destroyed Thanks for the new sig! ![]() _____________________
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Far Absolute
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Kids
07-06-2005 10:52
Having kids would be ok if their weren't so much mature stuff going on...since there is...unfortunately i think we have to exclude children from SL.
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Jim Bunderfeld
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07-06-2005 10:56
We all know about the teen grid now so this thread is useless, mod please, please, lock this thread.
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Far Absolute
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Kids
07-06-2005 11:03
Since when is someone's opinion useless?
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Kate Pinkney
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Minors
07-06-2005 11:55
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO minor integration in the current grid... PERIOD!
NO NO, Come on Lindon, Minors in SL, are you out of your minds?????????? |
Zapoteth Zaius
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07-06-2005 11:58
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO minor integration in the current grid... PERIOD! NO NO, Come on Lindon, Minors in SL, are you out of your minds?????????? gawd people read!! theres a teen grid! stop fretting.. _____________________
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Sylfie Minogue
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I'm a 6 day newbie and i like to chime in as well
07-06-2005 12:40
There are too many pages to read through and like to say that i think this game in it's current format is "inappropriate" for minors (18 years of age, pending on your country's laws) to play in; unless you want to sell the game to the general public as controversial material/advertisment/sales.
Some game company go this route in a attempt to increase/hide a slumping population base or to hype sales for short term gains like that game Soldier's of Fortune. I've seen some very adult images the first day i was walking around, then of course the mature content level of the socialization (IE, stripper poles? bondage related goods?, escort services?). Integration of two systems/formats into one is never worth it as it alienates your current customer/player base while allowing for childish-like behavior of minors in which you'll need to police the server. Currently, the players police themselves which is morally responsible; but they wont police minors/adolesences like babysitters. Sell the game as Second Life Lite and have a separate server designated as strictly "PG" rated while leaving the current server as is to keep people happy from both sides of the issue. Bad decision calls always cost more than it's worth. Oops, i just read above me that there will be a separate server for minors, it's a win/win situation for everyone. =) |
Jauani Wu
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07-06-2005 13:43
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO minor integration in the current grid... PERIOD! NO NO, Come on Lindon, Minors in SL, are you out of your minds?????????? read 'em and weep! ![]() _____________________
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Velox Severine
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07-06-2005 15:26
Oops, i just read above me that there will be a separate server for minors, it's a win/win situation for everyone. =) Not will, there already IS. Now if everyone would kindly stop whinging about a topic started back in October, we can move in. |
Severe Whiplash
A.K.A Ywoski Khan
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07-07-2005 02:02
people will never quit, best the thread just be locked, its intent has died when the soloution was presented to us, the teen grid
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Jsecure Hanks
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07-07-2005 02:11
The teen grid lives ! Long live the teen grid ! Salute the teen grid ! The grid that is SEPARATE to the rest of second life, where the teens go!
=== Teens have their own version of Second Life that they use, totally separate from the main, adult second life. They will never be integrated into main second life while they're teens, they have the teen grid === *** Note: This is the official stopper for this thread, read above and you see this thread is OVER, the business in this thread is now irrelevant and no longer open for discussion. If you post to this thread, it proves you are BLIND, or you do not read. If you do post to this thread despite being able to see, please delete your posts, as they are irrelevant white noise. *** THE END *** Let's hope that's the last we see of this thread. |
Jauani Wu
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07-07-2005 02:22
the teen grid is not entirely seperate. it uses the same asset servers, i hear, and is in the same grid space. it's just invisible to us, like invisible islands.
i agree with the person who said ban teens from SL and RL. teens have too much influence over pop music and it's pissing me off. _____________________
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Catherine Cotton
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07-07-2005 03:30
I would like to add something since I have always been very much against the idea of the teen grid in the past.
After talking with my son who will be 18 pretty darn soon. He is not going to go on the teen grid now but is gonna wait and go directly to the main grid, namly my island. Hey at least I can keep an eye on him there. (somewhat lol) I think its going to be pretty kewl after hearing what he wants to try building. With work and school I don't suppose I will be seeing much of him but its nice to know that my talking about graphics, building, and scripting seems to be of some interest to him. ![]() MomCat _____________________
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Colette Meiji
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07-07-2005 06:02
Argh! this this is the Walking Dead Thread,
risen by necroposters, and invulnerable to all attempts to put it back to rest. Save yourselves! Run for you lives! ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() --------------------------------------------- Okay i feel better now ![]() |