The Death Penalty Exists For People Like This

"Justice" makes it better though right?

Obviously, killing another person makes it better for you.

Um, most of the states that have the death penalty are in the bible belt.

You can deny the link, but I refuse to.

That's all I have to say about it.

Quit screwing the country and we'll talk

No, what I'm saying is, that judge should not even have been in a courtroom.

Oh, but the country looooooooooves it! Especially when I pull its hair and spank it's ass and tell it what a filthy little slut it is.

Orrrrrr maybe that's, Neyesa, my submissive.

-Kiamat Dusk

nope, i was like you, anti death penalty, cuz i thought i knew everything, then a relative was raped, and murdered, and then raped again, and then a friend was also murdered. ya know, that kinda changes a person.

ok, now i'll just sit back, and wait for the oh so eloquent rebuttals that are so sure to change my mind.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Tasha Hamilton
March 15, 2006 (614) 644-9820


STATEMENT FROM OHIO HOUSE SPEAKER JON HUSTED REGARDING THE REMOVAL OF FRANKLIN COUNTY COURT JUDGE CONNOR

COLUMBUS - The following statement can be attributed in part or whole to Ohio House Speaker Jon Husted (R-Kettering) pertaining to the removal of Franklin County Common Pleas Court Judge John Connor:

"It is plainly clear that Judge Connor has been a party to a serious miscarriage of justice - allowing an admitted sexual offender free on probation rather than imposing the strength and power the law allows in these cases.

"His actions have gone far beyond merely an abuse of discretion; his actions approach outright ignoring the nature and extent of Ohio's sexual predator laws. At the same time the Ohio House is reviewing and passing legislation safeguarding our society with regard to sexual offenders, Judge Connor has released into the community an admitted molester of two young children. It is the equivalent of gross misconduct in office and is a blatant disregard of the public's interests. We plan to review all of the facts of the matter and pursue all options available to us as a legislative body.

"The Ohio House of Representatives is currently reviewing the processes by which Judge Connor may be removed from the bench, including impeachment or the passage of a concurrent resolution here in the Ohio General Assembly.

"As a co-equal branch of government we are charged to exercise reasonable checks and balances including the responsibility to remove a jurist who has shown to be not worthy of the office he holds.

"This is a serious and troubling matter and action needs to be taken - action on behalf of Ohio's most vulnerable and defenseless citizens, our children. The safety and security of our children is paramount and we will examine all possible means of removal in the days to come."

http://www.billoreilly.com/pg/jsp/general/genericpage.jsp?pageID=493

-Kiamat Dusk

And I suppose dissent would be on your list as well?

What about sperm? That's even more innocent than fetuses, isn't it? Shouldn't we outlaw masturbation?

The death penalty is state sanctioned murder, just like genocide. By supporting it you're condoning murder. Congratulations!

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/46246

-Kiamat Dusk

Have you ever seen "Monte Python's The Meaning of Life"?

Man Pleads Guilty to Murder, Rape of Girl, 14
Chesapeake Beach Sex Offender Attacked Relative in Her Bedroom in 2003

By Arthur Santana
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 14, 2004; Page SM01

A 20-year-old registered Maryland sex offender pleaded guilty Friday in Calvert County Circuit Court to the October 2003 rape and murder of a 14-year-old relative who lived near him in Calvert County, the Calvert County State's Attorney's Office said.

Edward L. Frostbutter of Chesapeake Beach withdrew his plea that he was not criminally responsible and entered a guilty plea through his public defender, Sheila Sullivan, said Deputy Calvert County State's Attorney Laura Martin.

Appearing before Calvert County Circuit Court Judge Marjorie L. Clagett, Frostbutter pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and first-degree rape in the killing of Cindy Storms on Oct. 19, 2003, in Chesapeake Beach. Frostbutter could face a maximum sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole when he is sentenced Feb. 11, Martin said.

According to a police affidavit outlining the crimes, Frostbutter had been infatuated with the girl and became angry when his feelings were not reciprocated.

Frostbutter, then 19, told investigators during an interrogation last year that he entered the home where Storms lived to talk with her after a family gathering there. During their encounter, Frostbutter became angry and choked and raped her, according to the affidavit.

Storms, whose step-grandmother is a sister of Frostbutter's father, was found dead in her bedroom the next morning.

Frostbutter, who pleaded guilty to the November 2001 molestation of an 8-year-old boy, served 16 months before being released from jail in April 2003. In this case, he had been held without bond on charges of murder, rape and burglary.

Storms, who was a freshman at Calvert High School, lived with her grandfather William Nelson and step-grandmother Toni Nelson in the same neighborhood where Frostbutter lived with his parents.

Frostbutter told police that he first became angry with Storms during a casual get-together of the Nelson and Frostbutter families at the Nelson home on Oct. 19, 2003, according to court documents.

Frostbutter told police that he was mad at Storms because she "treated him differently from other family members," police said in the affidavit filed with the court.

After dinner, Frostbutter went outside the Nelson home to sit on a porch swing, and relatives later told police that he "appeared to be bothered or upset by something," according to the affidavit.

He then left the porch and was seen speeding away in his car. Frostbutter told police that before midnight, he returned to the Nelson home, entered through an unlocked back door and confronted Storms in her bedroom, according to the affidavit.

Frostbutter told investigators that he choked Storms and stuffed a sock in her mouth to stifle her screams, causing her to lose consciousness, the affidavit states. He said he then tied her hands behind her back and raped her, police said.

Just after midnight, Frostbutter called his sister's boyfriend and told him to tell the family goodbye for him. Then he drove to Pennsylvania.

He called his family by cell phone the next day, after Storms's body had been discovered, according to the affidavit.

Using cellular call records and the global positioning system in Frostbutter's phone, police located him just outside of Harrisburg, Pa., and arrested him there.

Frostbutter had been charged in two other sex crimes. In 2002, he pleaded guilty in the 2001 child molestation case. He was charged with raping a girl in a restroom at Calvert High School in January 2002, but the charges were dropped when the victim declined to cooperate with authorities, according to prosecutors.

In the Calvert High School rape case, Frostbutter told authorities he suffered from multiple personality disorder and had an alter ego named Sam, according to court records.

© 2004 The Washington Post Company

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47019-2004Nov12.html

Again this guy admitted to the crime.

-Kiamat Dusk

Yeah, conservatives always love separation of powers and democracy until something happens that they don't like, then they try to circumvent it.

Yes, but not nearly enough times. I can't quote it like I can "The Search for the Holy Grail".

...dammit, now I gotta go rent it...

-Kiamat Dusk

You know what happens to most child molesters and rapists in prison, right? I don't agree with the death penalty - it does not un-rape children, it does not bring back the dead, it does cost more because of all the appeals than life in prison - there is too much room for error in many cases (I know there are people caught on tape and in those cases there is no error - but there's always technicalities - ya know).

DNA evidence (and in this case video) has made false death sentences a thing of the past. This is old news-time to come up with a new excuse not to do the right thing.

Besides, as I've demonstrated here, when a child molestor goes in front of a Liberal judge, they don't go to prison.

-Kiamat Dusk

They've been known to screw up the DNA evidence

I didn't see anything in the articles you posted that said the asshat judge was "liberal" - is that just an assumption you make because the guy didn't get hung?

I was just wondering, since they explore alternative death penalties as well as religious views on the use of birth control.

I just rented it at cinemanow.com. I'd watch it now, but it's near my bedtime.

-Kiamat Dusk

That is why they should just toss them in general populace with a pink jumpsuit that has pedo
written on the back. My family works in corrections. With out being locked down for thier own protection, the average life span of a pedo is about 24 hours.

Kill them all and let god sort it.

I am against the death penalty in this case.

Because I am for torture and daily beatings instead.

But I like your M&Ms idea, it's very creative. What color do you recommend? The only problem is I don't think you could find anyone to..... carry out the punishment. We'd have to build a robot or something.

I think there are too many cases of molestors getting away with probation which leaves the victims even more vulnerable that the rapist might come after them.

In this case, raping an infant is just fucking wrong and an infant can die from that! If I caught anyone raping an infant, I'd behead them myself!

Sometimes people preach too much about tolerance but yet they aren't really that tolerant, just to their select group.

The death penality should not exist for anyone. Period.

Politically speaking, I consider myself a moderate... which means I tend to consider both the extreme left and the extreme right somewhat addled.

I'm of two minds on this issue. On the one hand, while investigative methodology has progressed immensely in the recent past, it is still quite possible to convict an innocent person. Anyone have any statistics handy on how many people the US has executed in the last 100 years, who were later found innocent? '1' is an unnacceptable number, for me, and I'm comfortably certain that the number is much larger.

On the other hand... child molesters/sexual predators have an insanely high rate of recidivism. If they are freed, it is a very safe bet that they are going to do it again. We shoot down rabid dogs, and I have much warmer and fuzzier feelings for rabid dogs than I do for these 'people'. In a case where filmed evidence exists, of a man raping a *baby*... well, please. Why on Earth would he be allowed to live? 'He might reform... there's a good 12% chance he won't rape any more babies! And if he *does* rape some more babies, he *might* not kill them afterward! So let's give him another chance.' No. Killing him won't unrape the baby, or unkill any babies that he might have killed, but it sure as hell is going to prevent him raping and killing more babies. If the evidence is less cut-and-dried... we need an inescapable penal colony for 'em. And with that kind of recidivism rate, we need mandatory life-sentences.

On the other-other hand, leaving rationality aside for a moment, I know precisely what I would want done with anyone who did this to a child of mine. I'd want five minutes alone with them. I'm pretty sure that's how most parents would react. And it's something that, honestly, should be considered from a legal standpoint... no, life sentences and executions do not bring back the victim or make the crime unhappen, but sometimes that cold comfort is all the solace that the state can offer the victim's families.

Well said! What messages are being sent now to rapists is probation for getting caught, big deal. What messages are being sent out to the victims of rape? SHH!!

Why do people make this guy out to be a victim?? What about the baby he destroyed? What about the parents he scarred for the rest of their lives? Oh no, they don't matter at all...it's about that poor helpless infant rapist.

I used to work in corrections and it cost, at that time(2004), approximately $35,000 a year to house an inmate. Our tax dollars hard at work. I don't see how the death penalty could cost more than housing an inmate for as little as say a minimum sentence of 5 years.
I lost a grand-daughter 1 week before her 1st birthday to one of these pricks and he only got 16 years for taking her whole life. Yes I support the death penalty.

To cut costs, i suggest:
Make the inmate pay for the appeal, no pro bono.
Allow only 2 maximum appeals, must be heard within 1 year of each appeal.
This waiting 10 years crap is BS

Edit: I know the subject is rape, but in this case it led to murder.