Is Religion allowed in School?

Thank you for the correction. I should have stated "Federal" or US wide public schools were not in action till the mid-nighteeth-century. Of course small communities dabbled in it before then. But how could they resist?

Most had come from a country where they were not free to explore their own religions. And many of the ignorant that came to our country, repeated the same mistakes they fled from.

Actually... I did... *blush*
I love timelines, though, so maybe I don't count.

Edit: Oh I wanted to mention that it was strongly oriented toward racial issues and didn't discuss things like the Scopes trial.

If you suggest I'm unfair with because I think kids need all the info they can get, then I'm unfair. But I'm opening the door to all, the world religions deserve a spot at the table of education. No religion should be denied access, especially unpopular religions. Freedom of speech should also apply to what one can learn in school. Freedom to hear every side of every issue one explores.

As it stands, if a child asks about any religious ideas in school, he is either told it can't be discussed, or that there is no God.

Oh and by the way I think that it is a parent's responsibility to teach their children religion if they so choose and not the government (schools). If a parent doesn't want to teach their children all about every religion in the entire world so be it. I see this an attack on parental rights.

Amen.

Let's stick to the top 3 and spend an equal third of our schoolroom time teaching kids why atheists think religion is retarded and anachronistic.

I still think teaching kids a "Tools for Freedom" class would be better.

Kevn, there are thousands of religions in the world. Given that it's impossible to teach them all, what select few would be taught? Despite being a derogatory term, what do you mean by "unpopular"? Do you mean religions that have killed millions through inquisition and seek to this day to steal away human rights (Christianity) or do you mean having very few followers such as the Jedi Order?

~Ulrika~

I suppose the ah, *cough*, devil is in the details?



I had rather envisioned such a thing as an upper school course, something that would prepare students for life in the 21st century.

Foreign language is often required, but for what purpose? It's obviously not necessary for survival. An origins class could be much the same.

And why the focus on the United States? I thought this was an international discussion; I guess I had it wrong.



Also - adherents.com fails the credibility test *solidly*.

Juche is now a religion!?

Quick, call the North Koreans! They would be laughing in their kimchee bowls if they heard such nonsense.


As for Christians being in the multiple billions, while Hinduism and Buddhism are so low? Only 376 million Buddhists?

Sorry folks, this is a propaganda site. Someone desperately needs to visit Asia for the very first time. They are embarrassing themselves.



Not that it matters. It's not a contest of 'sheer number of f0ll0w3rs For Teh Win'. That might be a necessity for the classroom, nothing more.

Maybe there should be a day when someone from a smaller religion is invited to speak. Perhaps a KoolAid and cookies party that day.

- Desmond "Compound near Brasilia" Shang

Then allow parents the right to choose all other aspects of their child's education. Including what science teaches as truth.

Last time I checked, science wasn't done by parental query.

~Ulrika~

~Ulrika~

Thank God.

Please don't derail an interesting thread. If you have some positive input, I'm sure we would love to hear it.

How does teaching religion violate the constitution, and why did it take so long to figure out it wasn't constitutional?

Because it IS constitutional. Jeeeeeeez.

Thats makes no sense at all. Science teachs truth and religion teaches faith so what is your point?

Are you trying to be an evangalist here? Please fess up if you are.

Many people are horrified by Christian evangalist methods and run for their lives when they see one coming. I won't even mention how Amish and Jewish people feel when they see one at their doorstep. Why do I include Amish and Jewish people in my sentence? Because both faiths have a strong work ethic along with a stong sense of faith and they don't cotton much much to some know it all coming along and telling them that they are all wrong.

I'm sorry. You lost track of your own thread.

You said,
then I said,
and

I questioned your absurd statement that scientific "truth" should be decided by parents and then added a dialogue to drive home that absurdity. Do you understand?

~Ulrika~

Of course he doesn't understand. He thinks Adam and Eve rode on dinosaurs to church every sunday.

I did

I'm personally on a quest to find the religion that believed the snake was a female and that eve was tempted by more than just the apple. I'm telling a crude rendition, but I honestly remember the story in the back of my mind and it was amazing.


sorry hijack/ back to topic

You read a monolithic block of unformatted text instead of following the link?

~Ulrika~

Yep. I hate following links to sites full of flash adds, so I usually stick to text. I also have my email set to text. So, yes, I miss all the pretty av's, sigs, and pics...

Come on guys, smile and admit it. We are, really, aren't we ? Jesus, I even met God. How insane is that ? I think we're all lucky we're not locked up, honestly....

Errrmm....Ulrika....sorry to tell you but...guess what ?

Correlated with the bat-squeezin', d'you think, at all ?

I have to tell you, people, this thread is the funniest I've seen in years. I'm literally falling about here. It just goes on getting better and better. I'm not trying to be smart, it just is genuinely funny. Little bits everywhere.

This is just one sample:



"CRAPS ON THEIR FLAG" omg- unreal..........oh no, please stop its too much....
...do they have to share...or do they have one each...kept ready.......
oh gee....
and a TERRORist ....... ouch......pfffft

does he have nothing better to do? nothing more evil than that ????
did he practice with childrens flags in terrorist school?

oooooohooohoooh......that hurts....

And Jimmys parents and the proteins ...........oh dear
I think i've lost the plot.......

If that is accurate it is because parents make the effort to teach their kids their values and beliefs. As a school teacher I can say first hand that literacy is taught in schools but there is very little at home follow up in many families. If we want literate kids it needs to be as much the parent's responsibility as the school's.

You're a school teacher? No way. What do you teach?

~Ulrika~