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Zho Golem
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Join date: 22 Oct 2005
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04-27-2007 16:44
Yeah whatever changed. it's REALLY bad, Even previously good sims are broken for me now.
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White Hyacinth
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04-27-2007 16:48
Same here!
Sims that used to work are failing now. The connections that have been open for several hours are still working by the way. I don't dare touch those. This will likely go on all weekend now ![]() |
Trish Chandler
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Join date: 11 Jun 2006
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04-27-2007 17:00
I have the same problem. It was fine for a couple of days and now it has gone bad again.
I am also from Holland and I also use xsforall (formerly demon). |
Just Surveryor
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Join date: 14 Dec 2006
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04-27-2007 17:37
------------------------------------From BRAZIL (Embratel conection)
10 days of SECOND LIFE inactivity * cant move - onLy spin * dont have inventory * dont have linden money * dont have support |
Tester Dibou
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Join date: 21 Jan 2007
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Day 12, And Counting
04-27-2007 20:32
Ok on phone with xs4all ..according to this gentleman they are going to do nothing about it as the problem lays only with LL ........ Wat zal ik nog 2x zoveel betalen voor een minder product? kan iemand me dat uitleggen? inmiddels diverse meldingen dat het voor sommige klanten is opgelost maar helaas voor een paar niet. Ooooh, en dan die funny opmerking van die Mr. Linden op Jira. Kwam er bijna op neer van: "Hehe jullie nog steeds hier aan het modderen? nou sux6." GGGGGRRRRRR!!!!! |
Tester Dibou
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Join date: 21 Jan 2007
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Omg
04-27-2007 20:57
OMG. now they add some new sim's to the /bad/ ones? Koala is down. Nice, have there about 4k sqm of land...
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Caitlin Lilliehook
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Join date: 28 Feb 2007
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form very bad to more worse
04-27-2007 22:00
Now i cant move in my own house anymore..........
AGHRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHH this makes me crazy..!! bad sim: Julia Creek 199... Plush Giga 185.... Mystical Bondage 204.... I am a die hard xs4all client but now beginning to think about changing providers.........this is no fun anymore!!!!!!!!!!! |
Ruud Lathrop
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Join date: 4 May 2006
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04-27-2007 22:05
Well it seems that every sim in IP range 64.129.45.* and 64.129.46.* is now also not accessible for me anymore. Can somebody in Linden tell use if they change something. And can they somehow undo it also.
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Pillah Stepford
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Join date: 2 Aug 2006
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Just adding to the choir again
04-27-2007 22:49
For what its worth, indeed, Amazingg (a private island) was a refuge for me where I even could camp.
Thanks for the recent sneekey changes mr X Linden! Now Amazingg is lost for me too. I bought some cheap land just to have an accessible home, now I have to fear this will too become conficated. And indeed, if I loose this property too I will turn my back on this bottomless pit of arrogance calling themselve a provider -- yeah you all know which company I mean. As for LL, I hope you will soon reach your 6 million, over our backs it seems! Thanks! |
Just Surveryor
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Join date: 14 Dec 2006
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11 days without Second Life
04-27-2007 23:32
+ no move
+ no inventory + no gestures + no linden money + no support + no Linden correct issues related in this tread 11 days without Second Life, named now No Life/ |
Mandy Lurra
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04-28-2007 01:42
Yesterday I bought land on a sim that was stable for me. That sim has been stable for the past 11 days. That was, until last night. I was there with a friend, building when suddenly both pings went to 10000 pings and I couldn't move anymore.
I am SO annoyed. I bought that land because I knew it was stable, what with all the problems we've been having with XS4ALL. I thought at least, I can DO something there. Now it looks like that's gone too. Well, SOMEONE must know something, and basically SOMEONE isn't doing their job right. But whatever, I don't care anymore. Today we're looking at new providers to end this crap once and for all. |
Annabelle Fleury
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Join date: 9 Dec 2006
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my sim is normal this morning and other news
04-28-2007 02:39
Nephrite Island is normal this morning, didnt try out other sims. Thats something.
Now the other news: I know a guy in SL who has also XS4ALL as his provider and has no problems. A few days ago he had some tp problems but thats it. What does that mean? Can we investigate something what's the difference between him and us? Anyone suggestions how to use this to learn something more? |
Ruud Lathrop
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Join date: 4 May 2006
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04-28-2007 03:47
Same here, ConTessa Island. Can stay on it like normal. Hope they dont mes up the routing anymore!!
Annabelle, the best thing if he is with XS4All en has no problems on the 69.* or 72.* sims, then he needs to give his IP-number to Timo (from XS4All) maybe then he can, with Lindens help do a back trace to his IP number and a bad IP number and look at the difference. Maybe so close down on where the problem is. If they somehow not already know. |
Mandy Lurra
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04-28-2007 03:58
I know a guy in SL who has also XS4ALL as his provider and has no problems. A few days ago he had some tp problems but thats it. Maybe you could give this guy a LM to a 'bad' sim. Also wondering if he's even seen this thread or perhaps he's just been lucky enough not to go to any of the 'bad' sims yet. Also an update to my previous post. My new land seems to be okay again. Except ping user is still showing 10000, and that's still not right. |
Mandy Carbenell
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04-28-2007 04:06
Today I tried to login on a friend's pc (yes, xs4all) and after 4mins I couldn't move and had to logout. Then went to my own appt. (same building) and logged in there using my Versatel account, no more probs..everything ran smooth. I think xs4all should be renamed to xs4no1. And companies pointing fingers to one another isn't really helping. I feel for the xs4no1 users, hope this gets fixed for you guys!
Mandy C _____________________
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Morwen Bunin
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Join date: 8 Dec 2005
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04-28-2007 04:17
Well, to my feeling it is still out of reach of XS4ALL themselves. All they can do is contact "those higher up" in the network infrastucture and ask them to clear up their stuff.
I mean, I play also SWG... no problem at all. Perfect connection... no lag, no packetloss or anything. Same goes for everything else... it is as fast as normal without any problem at all. And if it is really is out of controle of XS4ALL (what I really think it is), then is no good to blame them for it. Edit: It seems that my home sim (Maia) is okay. I do have packetloss, but I don't freeze or crash. I can actually move very normally. When I TP to the sim with my gallery (ChangMi) that it is after a few steps over and I freeze up. Morwen. |
Freeman Bligh
ISP: xs4all.nl 82.95.*.*
Join date: 5 Mar 2006
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04-28-2007 04:46
Look, i dunno about you but I have been on line with the helpdesk of xs4all for 1 hour on the 3rd day this happened.
That person helping me used winMTR on his own account and got the bad results we have all seen in the last 11 days On his work account, at xs4all HQ the numbers where normal !!! So when timo plays secondlife (only for test purposes, off course! ![]() As the problem only excists on xs4all account sl members it must be a returning channel that gets blocked by some sort of filter xs4all has installed to block some bad thing for us. So start to look at channels 12000-15000 on the inbound traffic. that is my thinking at this time. Hell, I'm no internet wizz but tihs happened on the 17th of april. what did xs4all do in the night between 16th and 17th? Why is there no newsgroups of forum for this problem to discuss with other xs4all users? this forum only gives a bad name to xs4all and nobody ever answers anything or rules out anything. Do they still have no clue? Is xs4all taken over by KPN completely? I am not used to this kind of problems taking this long while xs4all was still the real xs4all I know since the first days they delivered internet in my house. I will not leave xs4all again. Not for something like this. This will be solved, im sure it will. its just bad that it takes this long, but it will probably proove that the problem is outside xs4all. Well i just spoke agains myself. I guess i hope that this little contribution helps to ignite a spark so the problem is solved soon btw is there a list on SL that shows a servername with an ip address? Would come in handy as long as this goes on. Greetings from The Hague <NL> |
Mandy Lurra
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04-28-2007 04:48
We are paying a service to XS4ALL for a connection that we can not use as we should be able to. It doesn't matter who is at fault here, it is still XS4ALL's responsibility to serve it's paying customers and to DO something about it should that connection fail.
This has gone on for 11 days and each company, XS4ALL, Sprintlink and LL are passing the buck so to speak, and yes perhaps each one of those has tried to fix the probem but to no avail. So what now, just give up? Basically it's just as bad as day one, if not worse. Let's face facts here, it is still XS4ALL's paying customers that are affected. Period. If it was another provider that had the same problem in The Netherlands then fine, but it's not. So XS4ALL need to deal with it and FIX it, one way or another. Reading over the posts it seems XS4ALL won't do anything else about it, because they believe it's not their problem anymore. Well thank you! So where does that leave us? |
Mandy Carbenell
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04-28-2007 04:52
Well, to my feeling it is still out of reach of XS4ALL themselves. All they can do is contact "those higher up" in the network infrastucture and ask them to clear up their stuff. I mean, I play also SWG... no problem at all. Perfect connection... no lag, no packetloss or anything. Same goes for everything else... it is as fast as normal without any problem at all. And if it is really is out of controle of XS4ALL (what I really think it is), then is no good to blame them for it. Edit: It seems that my home sim (Maia) is okay. I do have packetloss, but I don't freeze or crash. I can actually move very normally. When I TP to the sim with my gallery (ChangMi) that it is after a few steps over and I freeze up. Morwen. Awws...poor girl! I'm suppose to have a business meeting later today but the guy I was suppose to meet emailed me saying: "Sorry Mandy......ik heb xs4all.......*zucht*" There goes a good deal!! GRRRR! Mandy C _____________________
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Marillion Celt
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04-28-2007 04:59
Have been reading this thread with interest as two of my friends are among those severely affected by this problem (Hello Mandy L. <g>
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Vent Sinatra
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04-28-2007 05:26
Look, i dunno about you but I have been on line with the helpdesk of xs4all for 1 hour on the 3rd day this happened. That person helping me used winMTR on his own account and got the bad results we have all seen in the last 11 days On his work account, at xs4all HQ the numbers where normal !!! So when timo plays secondlife (only for test purposes, off course! ![]() <NL> Yes, on jira I have commented on this. The traces we received from Linden show that the routes to xs4all HQ use level3.net instead of sprintlink... |
Morwen Bunin
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04-28-2007 05:47
Why is there no newsgroups of forum for this problem to discuss with other xs4all users? this forum only gives a bad name to xs4all and nobody ever answers anything or rules out anything. There is: xs4all.general or xs4all.adsl |
ReFa Lemmon
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Join date: 5 Jan 2007
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04-28-2007 05:58
At this moment all the regions that gave me problems seem to work as they should be.
I keep fingers, arms, legs and toes crossed... |
Tara Tagore
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Join date: 19 Jul 2006
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04-28-2007 07:21
Bad as ever for me ........ i was hoping it would be same as yesterday and maybe get 3 hours being able to build on my own land , but no ............ * reaches for an even BIGGER Gin&Tonic
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Zho Golem
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Join date: 22 Oct 2005
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04-28-2007 07:23
Ok...after logging in and out, it seems to be working agian for me. Redoing my previous traces shows NOTHING has changed :/
Why does it work now? What is the cause! |