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Zho Golem

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05-01-2007 06:54

From: Ziva Junot

For all the people who say the problem is NOT caused by XS4all: you are wrong. I'm not saying XS4all itself causes the problem because it could be very well their way of routing to the SL servers which could be different from other ISPs.

I have both cable from Orange and dsl from XS4all. I have been experiencing the exact same problems as many of you here but not once did I think about switching to my cable isp cause XS4all simply rocks so I assumed they were not the problem. After reading this thread I tested using cable and as you can expect no problem whatsoever.

So on the same machine, cable works fine, the moment I switch to dsl SL goes nuts on a lot of (not every) sims I land on.

If I remember I can do a trace later on to see if theres a difference between the routing of both providers cause I really believe theres a machine somewhere in between messed up(doesnt have to be XS4all or Lindenlab themselves).

Yeah, we've concluded that already

Jos Young

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Posts: 22

05-01-2007 07:05

From: Morwen Bunin

*hacks into the internal XS4ALL network*

Morwen

No, addresses in the 213 range are used as IP address for regular (ADSL) subscriptions.

Cloudy Numbers

MF-Designs @ MANifesto

Join date: 7 Oct 2006

Posts: 64

05-01-2007 07:06

For me its getting worse, i am not even able to recieve IM's from people in Eaton. Nor can i TP there, i get logged out instead. Its really really very frustrating for everyone involved. Still i keep hope it wil be solved soon. But hey thats me.

hexx Triskaidekaphobia

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Join date: 15 Feb 2007

Posts: 100

05-01-2007 07:20

From: Morwen Bunin

*hacks into the internal XS4ALL network*

A succesfull hack of the XS4ALL servers is traditionally rewarded with a home-made apple pie! Lucky you! At least you'll have something to eat while you stare at your frozen avatar!

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Dixie Barbosa

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Join date: 8 Mar 2007

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support group party on a safe sim tonight?

05-01-2007 08:04

Hi all,

I know about this party tonight. It'll be starting at 19:30 (Dutch time) and guess what ... it's on a GOOD SIM !!

Funny detail: lot of Dutch people on the island and in the club anyway. Even the island owner is Dutch. But everyone is welcome.

So feel free to come and party again for a change !! There's a live dj and dancers etc. I'll be there too (please don't let me be the only XS4ALL customer there) ...

I know a lot of you are angry about the whole thing, but please transform that anger into positive party energy, even if it's for a couple of hours. First round of drinks is on me !!

Even if you normally land in a bad sim, you can still come to the Piramide Club by clicking on this SLurl: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Christels%20Island/66/94/33/. My about screen says: You are at 262466.5, 271454.2, 33.7 in Christels Island located at sim3758.agni.lindenlab.com (64.129.47.15:13004).

There are a couple of sitting areas there. If we don't want to party but just talk about the problem thing, we could call it a support group meeting.

But really I just want to give anyone who has troubles even logging on due to this problem, a chance to be in a 'safe haven' for once and actually have fun !!

CU there? Tot ziens?
Dixie Barbosa

Mandy Lurra

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Join date: 8 Oct 2006

Posts: 39

05-01-2007 12:51

FYI - Tonight at 9:50 pm Dutch time I am able to move freely in all sims. Pings are normal.

Watches the clock, and hope it lasts longer than 20 mins this time.

Freeman Bligh

ISP: xs4all.nl 82.95.*.*

Join date: 5 Mar 2006

Posts: 19

1 hour 45 minutes .....

05-01-2007 12:58

same here, a little earlier perhaps

pings are around 200 in both directions for the first time since over 2 weeks!

Keeping fingers crossed!

Greetings
Freeman

never mind problem is back after 11.25PM CET

What IS this ???? Sighs

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Charly Niven

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Join date: 1 Feb 2007

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05-01-2007 13:31

10:30 PM , no luck .
All my usual problem sims are still problem sims , including my house .
I`ve become like a gargoyle at Trash Palace for the duration of this problem seeing as that`s a cool club , with none of the bad sim issues .

Cleo Carbetta

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Join date: 5 Jan 2007

Posts: 5

05-01-2007 13:45

No luck for me too. It's been two weeks now and I still can't get into my own house.
Getting really tired of this...

Cloudy Numbers

MF-Designs @ MANifesto

Join date: 7 Oct 2006

Posts: 64

05-01-2007 13:52

You know , not being able to be there is damm frustrating, but being there for 3 hours and having hope and get stuck again is way beyond frustrating.

Mandy Lurra

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Join date: 8 Oct 2006

Posts: 39

05-01-2007 14:28

Down again. 11:25pm ping user shoots back up to 10000

*sigh*

hexx Triskaidekaphobia

Born Again Pagan

Join date: 15 Feb 2007

Posts: 100

05-01-2007 14:31

Same here, with 38,000+ residents online. One wonders if the Linden servers can handle the load ..... this is getting real irritating now, after two weeks.

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Annabelle Fleury

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Join date: 9 Dec 2006

Posts: 22

Read it too late

05-01-2007 16:41

From: Dixie Barbosa

Hi all,

I know about this party tonight. It'll be starting at 19:30 (Dutch time) and guess what ... it's on a GOOD SIM !!

Funny detail: lot of Dutch people on the island and in the club anyway. Even the island owner is Dutch. But everyone is welcome.

Sorry read it too late otherwise I would have gone there!!!

Pillah Stepford

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Join date: 2 Aug 2006

Posts: 9

My heart raced.......

05-01-2007 22:35

But no -- same as some others -- after 2 lil hours of joy the user ping went back to 10000, at 19:45 dutch time (arh 10:45 SLT, coffee break over perhaps?).

*runs SL in a very small window now*

Charly Niven

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Join date: 1 Feb 2007

Posts: 8

05-01-2007 23:06

Seeing a I woke up earlier then i shoulda for going to work , I tried logging in SL to humor myself to see if there is any improvement.
Stunningly enough , I could stay in a problem sim ( i.e my house ) for a little over an hour before I had to go to work .

That was between 07:30 and 08:30 AM .

Tough I`m geussing like the other reports in the thread that its just a temporary state and i`m not geussing anybody fixed anything .
It would be good if we could find a common set of hours where we experience this .

Mandy Lurra

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Join date: 8 Oct 2006

Posts: 39

05-01-2007 23:27

Logged on this morning at 8:30am and both pings are normal. I will post when it shoots back up to 10000.

EDIT - 3 hours later and still holding. Longest ever in 2 weeks. Let's see.

hexx Triskaidekaphobia

Born Again Pagan

Join date: 15 Feb 2007

Posts: 100

05-02-2007 02:40

From: Mandy Lurra

Logged on this morning at 8:30am and both pings are normal. I will post when it shoots back up to 10000.

EDIT - 3 hours later and still holding. Longest ever in 2 weeks. Let's see.

Don't wanna be a partypooper, but there are about 20,000 residents online now. That's a little bit more than half the load the servers had to chew on last night (23:25 GMT), when everybody froze again after a couple of hours of relatively normal performance.

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Mandy Lurra

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Join date: 8 Oct 2006

Posts: 39

05-02-2007 02:47

Sorry but I don't think that has anything to do with it. I've been monitoring it. Even when there were 30,000 plus online I had a stable connection for a few hours.

Just keeping my fingers crossed here, we have to have hope at least.

hexx Triskaidekaphobia

Born Again Pagan

Join date: 15 Feb 2007

Posts: 100

05-02-2007 03:09

From: Mandy Lurra

Sorry but I don't think that has anything to do with it. I've been monitoring it. Even when there were 30,000 plus online I had a stable connection for a few hours.

Just keeping my fingers crossed here, we have to have hope at least.

That is true, and I am keeping my fingers crossed as well. Also, I'm watching jira, to see if there's 'official' news from the battlefield - haven't seen any so far, but it's 03:00 AM over there so they've all probably gone to bed.

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Mandy Lurra

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Join date: 8 Oct 2006

Posts: 39

05-02-2007 05:49

Still going good here, that's 7 hours now. OMG, does this mean the problem MIGHT be fixed for IP range 82. users ?

Still crossing my fingers.

Ruud Lathrop

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Join date: 4 May 2006

Posts: 11

Message van Timo (XS4All)

05-02-2007 05:54

This is now standing in the newsgroup XS4All.General

From: someone

Afgelopen nacht heeft Linden hun routering richting XS4ALL aangepast, het
zou goed kunnen dat dit tot gevolg heeft dat het nu beter gaat.

--

Timo

Meaning Linden have changed there routing to XS4All last night. Possible that its working now

(Rough translation)

Lets wait and see.

Annabelle Fleury

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Join date: 9 Dec 2006

Posts: 22

05-02-2007 06:00

From: Annabelle Fleury

Then again about the guy who has no problems and has XS4ALL. He has a subscription of 79 euro a month but I'm gonna ask what kind of subscription and what ISP address he has.
He tried out 3 bad sims (where I got stuck immediately and repeatedly) for me yesterday. He had no problems at all and I know its true because we kept in IM-touch all the time.

The friend who uses XS4ALL and has no problems uses an ISP address that starts with 213. Maybe its useful to know this, although I read that the problems are over???? Sure hope so!

Cloudy Numbers

MF-Designs @ MANifesto

Join date: 7 Oct 2006

Posts: 64

05-02-2007 06:04

Well it was hopefull news and afcourse i had to try it, as soon i came at my homebase, i kept walking and walking and walking. TP'd to other homebase, stuck at once. So for me (am a 80* IP range) Problems are soooooooooo not over.

Annabelle Fleury

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Join date: 9 Dec 2006

Posts: 22

using xs4all and no problems

05-02-2007 06:05

I mentioned before that I know somebody who is using xs4all and doesn't have problems with freezing/stuck in a bad sim. The ISP he is using is: 213. Maybe that helps to solve the problem? Or did LL that already for us now?

Annabelle Fleury

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Join date: 9 Dec 2006

Posts: 22

Problem is still going on today

05-02-2007 06:12

I tried out the sim Plush Nano, where I always get frozen. The 1st time I was walking, walking and walking without being able to stop. The 2nd time I was frozen over there. So the problem continues for me!

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Zho Golem Registered User Join date: 22 Oct 2005 Posts: 34	05-01-2007 06:54 From: Ziva Junot For all the people who say the problem is NOT caused by XS4all: you are wrong. I'm not saying XS4all itself causes the problem because it could be very well their way of routing to the SL servers which could be different from other ISPs. I have both cable from Orange and dsl from XS4all. I have been experiencing the exact same problems as many of you here but not once did I think about switching to my cable isp cause XS4all simply rocks so I assumed they were not the problem. After reading this thread I tested using cable and as you can expect no problem whatsoever. So on the same machine, cable works fine, the moment I switch to dsl SL goes nuts on a lot of (not every) sims I land on. If I remember I can do a trace later on to see if theres a difference between the routing of both providers cause I really believe theres a machine somewhere in between messed up(doesnt have to be XS4all or Lindenlab themselves). Yeah, we've concluded that already
Jos Young Registered User Join date: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 22	05-01-2007 07:05 From: Morwen Bunin hacks into the internal XS4ALL network Morwen No, addresses in the 213 range are used as IP address for regular (ADSL) subscriptions.
Cloudy Numbers MF-Designs @ MANifesto Join date: 7 Oct 2006 Posts: 64	05-01-2007 07:06 For me its getting worse, i am not even able to recieve IM's from people in Eaton. Nor can i TP there, i get logged out instead. Its really really very frustrating for everyone involved. Still i keep hope it wil be solved soon. But hey thats me.
hexx Triskaidekaphobia Born Again Pagan Join date: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 100	05-01-2007 07:20 From: Morwen Bunin hacks into the internal XS4ALL network A succesfull hack of the XS4ALL servers is traditionally rewarded with a home-made apple pie! Lucky you! At least you'll have something to eat while you stare at your frozen avatar! _____________________ my other bike is a broom
Dixie Barbosa Registered User Join date: 8 Mar 2007 Posts: 6	support group party on a safe sim tonight? 05-01-2007 08:04 Hi all, I know about this party tonight. It'll be starting at 19:30 (Dutch time) and guess what ... it's on a GOOD SIM !! Funny detail: lot of Dutch people on the island and in the club anyway. Even the island owner is Dutch. But everyone is welcome. So feel free to come and party again for a change !! There's a live dj and dancers etc. I'll be there too (please don't let me be the only XS4ALL customer there) ... I know a lot of you are angry about the whole thing, but please transform that anger into positive party energy, even if it's for a couple of hours. First round of drinks is on me !! Even if you normally land in a bad sim, you can still come to the Piramide Club by clicking on this SLurl: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Christels%20Island/66/94/33/. My about screen says: You are at 262466.5, 271454.2, 33.7 in Christels Island located at sim3758.agni.lindenlab.com (64.129.47.15:13004). There are a couple of sitting areas there. If we don't want to party but just talk about the problem thing, we could call it a support group meeting. But really I just want to give anyone who has troubles even logging on due to this problem, a chance to be in a 'safe haven' for once and actually have fun !! CU there? Tot ziens? Dixie Barbosa
Mandy Lurra Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2006 Posts: 39	05-01-2007 12:51 FYI - Tonight at 9:50 pm Dutch time I am able to move freely in all sims. Pings are normal. Watches the clock, and hope it lasts longer than 20 mins this time.
Freeman Bligh ISP: xs4all.nl 82.95.. Join date: 5 Mar 2006 Posts: 19	1 hour 45 minutes ..... 05-01-2007 12:58 same here, a little earlier perhaps pings are around 200 in both directions for the first time since over 2 weeks! Keeping fingers crossed! Greetings Freeman never mind problem is back after 11.25PM CET What IS this ???? Sighs _____________________ ISP: XS4ALL.NL IP: 82.95.. XS4ALL-Only FAST 20Mb (ADSL2)
Charly Niven Registered User Join date: 1 Feb 2007 Posts: 8	05-01-2007 13:31 10:30 PM , no luck . All my usual problem sims are still problem sims , including my house . I`ve become like a gargoyle at Trash Palace for the duration of this problem seeing as that`s a cool club , with none of the bad sim issues .
Cleo Carbetta Registered User Join date: 5 Jan 2007 Posts: 5	05-01-2007 13:45 No luck for me too. It's been two weeks now and I still can't get into my own house. Getting really tired of this...
Cloudy Numbers MF-Designs @ MANifesto Join date: 7 Oct 2006 Posts: 64	05-01-2007 13:52 You know , not being able to be there is damm frustrating, but being there for 3 hours and having hope and get stuck again is way beyond frustrating.
Mandy Lurra Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2006 Posts: 39	05-01-2007 14:28 Down again. 11:25pm ping user shoots back up to 10000 sigh
hexx Triskaidekaphobia Born Again Pagan Join date: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 100	05-01-2007 14:31 Same here, with 38,000+ residents online. One wonders if the Linden servers can handle the load ..... this is getting real irritating now, after two weeks. _____________________ my other bike is a broom
Annabelle Fleury Registered User Join date: 9 Dec 2006 Posts: 22	Read it too late 05-01-2007 16:41 From: Dixie Barbosa Hi all, I know about this party tonight. It'll be starting at 19:30 (Dutch time) and guess what ... it's on a GOOD SIM !! Funny detail: lot of Dutch people on the island and in the club anyway. Even the island owner is Dutch. But everyone is welcome. Sorry read it too late otherwise I would have gone there!!!
Pillah Stepford Registered User Join date: 2 Aug 2006 Posts: 9	My heart raced....... 05-01-2007 22:35 But no -- same as some others -- after 2 lil hours of joy the user ping went back to 10000, at 19:45 dutch time (arh 10:45 SLT, coffee break over perhaps?). runs SL in a very small window now
Charly Niven Registered User Join date: 1 Feb 2007 Posts: 8	05-01-2007 23:06 Seeing a I woke up earlier then i shoulda for going to work , I tried logging in SL to humor myself to see if there is any improvement. Stunningly enough , I could stay in a problem sim ( i.e my house ) for a little over an hour before I had to go to work . That was between 07:30 and 08:30 AM . Tough I`m geussing like the other reports in the thread that its just a temporary state and i`m not geussing anybody fixed anything . It would be good if we could find a common set of hours where we experience this .
Mandy Lurra Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2006 Posts: 39	05-01-2007 23:27 Logged on this morning at 8:30am and both pings are normal. I will post when it shoots back up to 10000. EDIT - 3 hours later and still holding. Longest ever in 2 weeks. Let's see.
hexx Triskaidekaphobia Born Again Pagan Join date: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 100	05-02-2007 02:40 From: Mandy Lurra Logged on this morning at 8:30am and both pings are normal. I will post when it shoots back up to 10000. EDIT - 3 hours later and still holding. Longest ever in 2 weeks. Let's see. Don't wanna be a partypooper, but there are about 20,000 residents online now. That's a little bit more than half the load the servers had to chew on last night (23:25 GMT), when everybody froze again after a couple of hours of relatively normal performance. _____________________ my other bike is a broom
Mandy Lurra Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2006 Posts: 39	05-02-2007 02:47 Sorry but I don't think that has anything to do with it. I've been monitoring it. Even when there were 30,000 plus online I had a stable connection for a few hours. Just keeping my fingers crossed here, we have to have hope at least.
hexx Triskaidekaphobia Born Again Pagan Join date: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 100	05-02-2007 03:09 From: Mandy Lurra Sorry but I don't think that has anything to do with it. I've been monitoring it. Even when there were 30,000 plus online I had a stable connection for a few hours. Just keeping my fingers crossed here, we have to have hope at least. That is true, and I am keeping my fingers crossed as well. Also, I'm watching jira, to see if there's 'official' news from the battlefield - haven't seen any so far, but it's 03:00 AM over there so they've all probably gone to bed. _____________________ my other bike is a broom
Mandy Lurra Registered User Join date: 8 Oct 2006 Posts: 39	05-02-2007 05:49 Still going good here, that's 7 hours now. OMG, does this mean the problem MIGHT be fixed for IP range 82. users ? Still crossing my fingers.
Ruud Lathrop Registered User Join date: 4 May 2006 Posts: 11	Message van Timo (XS4All) 05-02-2007 05:54 This is now standing in the newsgroup XS4All.General From: someone Afgelopen nacht heeft Linden hun routering richting XS4ALL aangepast, het zou goed kunnen dat dit tot gevolg heeft dat het nu beter gaat. -- Timo Meaning Linden have changed there routing to XS4All last night. Possible that its working now (Rough translation) Lets wait and see.
Annabelle Fleury Registered User Join date: 9 Dec 2006 Posts: 22	05-02-2007 06:00 From: Annabelle Fleury Then again about the guy who has no problems and has XS4ALL. He has a subscription of 79 euro a month but I'm gonna ask what kind of subscription and what ISP address he has. He tried out 3 bad sims (where I got stuck immediately and repeatedly) for me yesterday. He had no problems at all and I know its true because we kept in IM-touch all the time. The friend who uses XS4ALL and has no problems uses an ISP address that starts with 213. Maybe its useful to know this, although I read that the problems are over???? Sure hope so!
Cloudy Numbers MF-Designs @ MANifesto Join date: 7 Oct 2006 Posts: 64	05-02-2007 06:04 Well it was hopefull news and afcourse i had to try it, as soon i came at my homebase, i kept walking and walking and walking. TP'd to other homebase, stuck at once. So for me (am a 80* IP range) Problems are soooooooooo not over.
Annabelle Fleury Registered User Join date: 9 Dec 2006 Posts: 22	using xs4all and no problems 05-02-2007 06:05 I mentioned before that I know somebody who is using xs4all and doesn't have problems with freezing/stuck in a bad sim. The ISP he is using is: 213. Maybe that helps to solve the problem? Or did LL that already for us now?
Annabelle Fleury Registered User Join date: 9 Dec 2006 Posts: 22	Problem is still going on today 05-02-2007 06:12 I tried out the sim Plush Nano, where I always get frozen. The 1st time I was walking, walking and walking without being able to stop. The 2nd time I was frozen over there. So the problem continues for me!

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