Ageplay

I'm sorry, I hate it when the only reasonable response to a post like yours is, "are you really such a moron?"

Just like hate speech is protected in real life, so is speech about child rape. But in SL, hate speech is regulated but speech about child rape is not. Why not?

lol

and I'm the drama queen?

I'm 5'2, 105 lbs...

if you are afraid of ballerinas, be afraid... be very afraid...

I suggest that anyone who was molested as a child seek the appropriate help in first life and not try to equate it with anything that is going on in second life.

Whatever any one person experienced in their first life should not be used to judge how other people should behave in second life.

Yes or No, please.

lol

Groan.

That comment wasn't referring to physicalities, although from your response (and the other malarky you're putting out here) it's pretty obvious you are incapable of thinking beyond physicalities. What a terribly limiting curse for a "psychologist".

You're extreme myopia is highlighted greatly with suggestions that people who are debating with you are afraid that you will take away their "fun", yet you don't know a damned thing about any of them. What a scummy debate tactic.

I know you have trouble grasping it, but people can and do defend things based on principle without ever having a desire to participate in the activity they are defending.

Carry on then, you won't have me to worry about, as it's become extremely obvious to me that trying to reason with you is but a fool's errand.

before seeking help, I would have ignored the problem and maybe even defended a person's right to be a pretend child rapist like some of these people are...

after years of dealing with it, I know that children being victimized is not a game and not a free speech issue.

btw, it is so clear to see men parading as women in these posts because any real woman wouldn't attack another woman for being concerned about children... and no real woman would trivialize sexual abuse in any way shape or form unless she was unusually anti-female.

I don't blame you for hating not having a response other than 'are you really such a moron'. I'd be pretty disappointed in myself too.

I'm curious exactly what the speech concerning child rape was. So far we've heard about a child avatar dancing in an adult club, said child avatar being 'For Hire', with no specifics given as to what he can be hired for. In other words, so far we've heard that an adult using an online representation of himself that resembled an underage boy was dancing in an adult club, and nebulous accusations that he was 'For Hire'. For something. Was the child avvie using a sexual poseball or anim? Was he cybering with someone? I'm pretty sure you'd have mentioned it if he had been.

So far, you've pretty much given us 'I think something bad is happening, and therefore we should all run around like chickens with their heads cut off'. You've laughed off the idea of going to the Lindens, who are the only people who can actually do something about it. You've lashed out at people who weren't attacking you, because you really don't seem to be able to understand what anyone else on these forums is saying. You've presented some rambling and frankly lunatic-sounding posts, and I strongly suspect that you don't understand what you'resaying, either. Thus far, the only proposed action that I've seen from you entails posting the names of ageplayers, which would result in a tidal wave of libel. Either that, or you want the Lindens to what, ban people based on suspicion of maybe being a pedophile? Neither is going to happen, bella. Give 'em evidence of sexualization of children, and I'm willing to bed good money that the Lindens will take action. Give them the same line of crap you've been posting, and they're going to ignore you. Give them the same creepy, insane stuff you were spouting for a while on certain locked threads, and you might get youself banned from the forums.

Who is trivializing child sexual abuse?

So you defend games that depict child rape based on principle?

I didn't say I was a psychologist, I said I have a degree in psychology. Have you been to school yet to learn what the difference is? A psychologist works in the field, a person who has a degree in something, studied it, read a lot and earned a college degree. In my case it was a B.A. That isn't enough to be a psychologist but since my concentration was on human sexuality, I probably have more reading on the subject than anyone else who has been attacking me thus far.

Again, go ahead and tell your mother that you think it is okay for people to pretend to be children having sex with adults... and adults having sex with children... or is she perhaps intollerant?

I'll take that as No. Which means that you don't consider it sufficiently alarming that people you've stated you believe are pedophiles are promoting criminal activity by discussing child rape (apparently you overheard this - "but speech about child rape is not".

Curious. If I were as convinced as you claim to be, I'd not be wasting time on this forum, I'd be contacting the news media and sharing the chat file of this "speech about child rape". I'd be showing the images and doing anything I could to raise public awareness. Yet here you are, avoiding answering a simple question.

Agreed.

I came here asking that a discussion take place about the possibility that SL is a potential safe haven for paedophiles. Instead of a discussion I got attacked because I might be ruining people's fun by suggesting that there may be a line that shouldn't be crossed.

Anyone who ignores my serious inquiry and attacks me for being a troll or a prude or a censor is trivializing the topic at hand.

But some are just being morons.

Your multiple, explicit, and egregious postings about your own abuse did more to trivialize child molestation than anything I've seen posted in response to you. Not because it shouldn't be talked about, not because it shouldn't be prevented, but for one simple reason: You used your own claimed history of abuse, presented in a graphic manner, to 'shout down' people who disagreed with you. You played the 'It happened to me, you can't possibly know better than me!' card, and fell flat on your face.

As far as men parading as women, and your ability to detect real women based upon whether or not they agree with you... frankly, bella, I'm not sure you'rea woman, or a survivor of child sexual abuse, or a psychologist. I am certain that you really like stirring up a hornet's nest, though. Have fun.

Ah, right . . . so men would attack a woman for being concerned about children, and men would trivialize sexual abuse?

I understand your concern but there is no evidence to suggest that child molestation is something one learns from the internet. It is a disorder developed at an early age and engaging in child play in second life has nothing to do with it. A person just doesn't engage in child play in second life and all of a sudden decide to be a child molester in first life.

I made you a cup of STFU...drink up.

Eh I don't get why adults would want to RP a kid but if they do, they do. I don't enjoy children in RL though, and am damned happy LL has the wisdom to segregate the kiddies to their own grid. I play on the adult grid and in mature areas. If adults that want to play kids stay away from me and away from those areas, hey I'm good with that.




couldn't agree more. isn't our place to pass judgement. leave the adult kids alone.

i'll even go you one further. i'm not sure i would want to pass judgement even if it was sexual. its make believe right? i mean... ok it squibs me out in the worst way and i SO don't even want to be around these people. but this is all make-believe. so is sexual age-play among two consenting adults wrong? gee i don't know. i mean *I* don't want to do it but as long its all make believe and doesn't go further and isn't done in front of me -- hell do i really care? should i? i'm not so sure i should..

Okay. that's enough!!

I am agreeing with Bella on this subject. I feel that anybody who doesn't agree with Bella or doesn't allow her to become the next president of the United States of America is obviously a child molestor.

Bella for president!!!

I've had several of Rav's drinks and I can tell you, they're lovely..

You're only saying that because you're a guy.

Boys have cooties.

How dare you defy me! You child molestor!!

Got my vote. Only I want to run the Inquisition. It's a guy thing.

I think you are wrong. I think make believe is make believe. I think pretend is pretend. Very few people who have rape fantasies actually want to be raped. Yet its a common fantasy. Most folks who have the fantasy of being the 'raper' don't want to go out and actually rape chicks. Yet it is a common fantasy. There are a LOT of common fantasies that get played out in SL. But the key word here is FANTASY.

FANTASY does not equal REALITY.

You are on a witch hunt and I think you are wrong. I'm sorry you have issues. GO SEEK HELP. You won't find that help here on the boards.

I disagree with Kendra as well when she said we should be more tolerant. No, we should never be tolerant with witch hunts. Not if the witches are age play roleplayers and not if they are witches and not if they are any thing which said hunter happens to have an issue with at the moment.