Ageplay

I love how there is NO EVIDENCE to suggest child molestation is blah blah blah... yet you are so sure Second Life has nothing to do with it... where is that evidence?

Q is creepy! He wants to molest Picard's head like it's a young boy.


Hey, ever wondered who would win in a fight between Picard and Kirk? My money is on Kirk! I reckon he'd crack Picard's egglike head open with a rock.

Well you do seem hell bent on believing that everyone who challenges your position is personally attacking you.... unfortunately it detracts from the real subject and makes others not want to hear what you have to say.

For the record, child abuse in any form is sick and wrong and all actual abusers should spend eternity in hell and most likely will.

That said, I'm gathering that your position is that ANY roleplaying as child avatars should be eliminated in SL to prevent some of them from indulging in sexual activity. (please correct me if i'm wrong here)

I have several problems with that kind of censorship. First of all, I've seen child avs all over the place and frankly the sexual activity you are describing I simply haven't witnessed. I haven't even met a child av with a sexually provacative profile, I've never even seen one being hit on. I'm sure there are the occasional instances of this but I'm also sure they are few and far between in relation to how many child avs are out there. What prohibiting them from their roleplay would do would be simply punishing the innocent to avoid the possibility that a few of them may be guilty.\

Secondly that kind of censorship can lead us down a very ugly road. Next we'll ban any and all BDSM activity because SOME Masters/Mistresses may possibly abuse some slaves. Then we'll have to ban all furry avatars because some of them may indulge in beastiality roleplay and thats illegal in most places. Then of course .... well robot sex eewwwww! Think of all the oil spills.

Bottom line, while there are plenty of things out there that make the majority of the people shudder and run away to more pleasant scenes ... It simply isn't ok to punish the innocent as a way to prevent the possibility of guilt. And unless an activity is blatantly illegal and or directly harming another it is not ok to force others to conform to one person or one group's idea of right and wrong.

I would worry, I would worry very much, about the mental health and potential RL threat of someone who looks at a child av and thinks of sexual fantasies or the person who dresses in a child av and lives them out.... however I honestly do not believe that applies to 99% of the people running around SL wearing jammies and carrying teddybears. I truly believe most of them manage to get through a day in SL without ever finding themselves in a sexual situation. How? Because they avoid them. Simple. Don't want to see it? Don't go looking for it.

I understand your concern sir. And I'm sorry if reality is so painful to read that you feel a need to attack the victim to justify your position and ease your discomfort.

Yes I am sure. Show me your evidence that second life causes child abuse please.

As my father used to say "poop or get off the pot."

I am not the one who started this thread. All I am doing is trying to add some logic to it.

I never said be tolerant of the witch hunt. If you read my posts you'ld see what I have to say about witch hunts. I said be more respectful of bella's pain and try not to deliberately antagonize a woman who is obviously exeriencing a re-trauma of a painful event in her life.

My own personal feelings on this fall along the lines of pixel bumping isn't real and I could care less if an AV wants to shape themselves as a child or a sea turtle for that matter.

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Thank you.

'I'm right because I was abused' doesn't work on me, bella. That club you say you belong to isn't an exclusive one, and some people don't let bad things that happened to them warp their perception of reality. Get help.

Best. Post. Ever.

Not even going to justify that last paragraph as it's clearly an emotional response and simply used to try to shout people down.

Listen once and for all bella, the majority of people here have NOT attacked you personally (with the exception of a few who may have been a tad insensitive) they are merely challenging your position and you don't like it.

EDIT: You know what, scratch that, I will respond as it does apply in my mind to the topic. I am a woman, yes a real woman, and a mother. I have made it my mission (along with help from i'm sure several guardian angels) to protect my children from the evil that is out there. My daughter is 14 yrs old and has never once been online without me sitting right next to her. I am aware of who her friends are, where she goes, what she does and what she is exposed to. This does not always make me the most popular parent but it has made my child safe so far. (knock on wood and pray to more angels)

Real child abuse is an issue we as a society should NEVER stop talking about and should NEVER stop fighting to put an end to. However, what happens in SL between child avs is not child abuse. It is roleplay between consenting adults and while it might make us want to hurl at the thought, no crime is being committed and no one is being victimized. Thats the bottom line. Its bothersome and it's icky and we dont like it.... but it is not the real problem. The real problem is the real life crime, the real life victim and that is where we as parents and as a society should be focusing.

Christopher Walken and/or me, who is a self-professed fan of C. Walken, as well as analogue-modelled cowbell. I am also a fan of John De Lancie, but my continued waxing poetic of his portrayal of omnipotence would be off-topic.

Speaking of, unfortunately, this thread is experiencing derailment. Please keep the discussion on-topic.

Bwahaha!



I don't know. It's a brains versus brawns thing. Maybe if Kirk had that green alien chick around to distract Picard for a second, so he could place a giant nutcracker about his considerable dome, and crush it like a brazil nut, but I'm thinking Uhuru is really a man and that she is playing a female character in SL who is participating in this thread. Makes sense ne?

Yes, "kill the messenger," it's tried and true.


begin innaccurate assumptions as way of qualifying earlier PC statement.



Let's see... I've only said it several times before but all I suggested was an official police by the Lindens that child avatars not be used as sexual objects or for sexual means.

But what you said demonizes me better so go ahead and promote that that is what I suggested.



Yes, well, I've been in SL for 2 weeks and walked up on it because I wanted to dance and meet people. But I'm sure you are somehow living a more valid life so your experience should be considered and mine ignored.



Beautifully put. If you don't want to see crime, hide. 99% are normal, only 1% are going to rape your child tomorrow, don't worry...

worry after your child is raped and his/her life is changed forever. 99% okay... let's see... that is 1 person in 100... how many people do I think a child meets in the course of being a child... okay, well, maybe if they cross their fingers they won't come upon one of these unusual specimens.

Cowbell from a fly's point of view. Doesn't it make you wish that you was a fly too?

... does this mean bella thinks I'm Nichelle Nichols? I'm really more of a Janice Rand.

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Flies see multiple images, but not in much detail... so there'd be lots of cowbell, but far blurrier cowbell. I prefer quality over quantity, in my cowbell.

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I don't want to be a fly, I think that might make me dizzy.

It's so clear to me that this is really a way for you to project your issues onto other people.

Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that it's better to be molested than to be spanked by a parent.