Ageplay

"Sexually charged" is becoming more vague each time you use it.



You brought it up to try to add weight to your arguement, so, yes, in this context.



You are assuming guilt before you have any justified suspision of wrongdoing. Your logic boils down to "I feel that anyone who does this is a closet pedophile". Fine. but you are not everyone, and a lot of people seem to disagree with you.




Censorship is ALWAYS a bad thing. Always. It it simply sometimes the lesser of two evils.



Except, no child has been raped in Second Life. I promise you that. Not a single one. Ever. However, if you call me a fag (and you aren't one of my friends, or someone else that I don't mind that from), you HAVE used a hateful term against a real person.

Does. Not. Compute.

I think that kind of cuts to the chase, and says what I tried to say in a clearer manner. I don't think she is aware of that. Or at the very least seems hesitant to provide even a hint of substantial evidence that supports her claim. Maybe 'It's true because it's soooo obvious!' is a logical argument where she comes from, but I can't say it holds much weight with people tha actually stop to think about it.

Since the OP is the one that started this, I'd say the burden of proof rests with her.

All i can say Can ppl say Mental Regression ...lol i come to sl and act my age i beleive most do ...

But can any body know the mental state ... of the person who is like i dont know ... up in there 30's or 40's acting like they are 12-15 ....

i think i would be wanting no sl but a appiontment to a mental health clinic ....

lol

are ppl so out of tune with who they acually are ....

Dont have to be plauying a kid eighter .... makes me wonder with any type of role /age play here .....

I have to agree with Kendra on this point.

But not all people that have age play fantasies are child molesters. Hell, I'm sure not every child molester uses or has access to child pornography or age-fetishised legal pornography. Until you can start proactively arresting people, or develop a way to determine with 100% accuracy who will hurt a child in real life, then you're way out of bounds with your statement.

This is exactly why the TOS does not allow naming names in forum posts. Essentially you just claimed that the people you saw were pedophiles in real life, working themselves up to attack real children, with no other proof than your own imagination. That's a vicious and insulting allegation to make without any sort of proof behind it whatsoever.

I think you're still putting the cart in front of the horse.

Just about all people watch some kind of porn, be it real porn, a fantasy/romance novel, or good old fashioned fantasizing. The porn isn't what makes them act. And that's true be it a heterosexual looking to go out and pick up or if it's a pediophile who should be dragged into the street, castrated and shot. It's even true among people who sit and home and don't act on those urges.

It's a game, dude. A game. When I roleplay, I'm combining the mental exercise of imagining a fictional person (just like on television, or in the movies, or in books) with extemporaneous theater. I don't do it for sexual kicks, or because I really think I'm someone other than who I am. That's what most roleplayers do. Some people do get carried away with it, and people who suffer from personality disturbance shouldn't roleplay (well, maybe therapeutically, but that's between their mental healthcare provider and themselves).

Suggesting that all roleplayers need psychological help tells me one thing about you: Like most people, you don't have the faintest idea what roleplaying actually is, and you've fallen for the 'roleplaying will make your children go crazy and worship Satan' bullshit that's been around ever since D&D first showed up.

I didn't say that all age play people are paedophiles, I said there are clearly some paedophiles using age play on SL... I don't even get how any sane person can suggest this isn't true. The sheer numbers alone require that a number of just about every criminal element exists within SL... my suggestion is that we take it seriously.

i love porn as long as everyone is adult and it is stuff i like or would like to do in rl... porn doesn't turn regular people into maniacs, but maniacs may also use it... they may also drink milk and drive cars...

On some level, everyone role plays... if my lover takes charge tonight and tells me to get down on my knees, I'll do it. Not because I think I have to but because it will give me a little thrill.

Role playing as a child having sex with an adult is not sane or okay. Anyone who thinks it is okay should try bringing this up with their rl friends and family and see how well it is received.

So you're saying you believe the person you named is, in fact, already a pedophile?

What would make you think the person is not in fact a pedophile?

I was responding to an off-topic post. You will not hear me defending roleplaying the sexual abuse of children. Doing such would fall under my mentioning that people with personality disturbance should not roleplay.

Last I checked, we operated under the presumption of innocence.

I wouldn't think anything. I prefer not to judge and make potentially-damaging accusations based on wild speculation.

Everyone here takes pedophilia seriously.

So, show us some, and we'll get right on with taking it seriously.

What would make us think the person is not in fact Rush Limbaugh? Lack of real evidence. People do stupid, weird, and offensive things all the time... and they don't always do these things as an expression of their inner demons. A child avvie dancing in an adult club might be a pedophile. I'd agree that they are more likely to be a pedophile, than someone randomly selected from the general SL population. Branding them a pedophile solely on the evidence presented thus far is more than a bit of a stretch, though.

No, several people posting wouldn't do a damn thing unless I showed up with pictures of the sex act between an adult and child and the degree in psychology from the university I graduated from so I could explain why what you see in the picture is not a good thing.


It is true that some people are attacking me for the sake of wanting to keep SL lawless and "free" and that's fine... some people are attacking me because they are concerned that if child sex role play is made illegal, they won't have any more fun... it is pretty clear to see the difference in the posts themselves.

And then some people are just plain stupid and think it is more important to attack a person for argumentative style than to give some thought into the message, but you always get that in forums like this.

The evidence you're giving for the people you saw being pedophiles is casual at best and deliberately misinterpreted at worst.

As far as "taking it seriously"... what do you expect LL to do about it? Ban them for suspicion of pedophilia, when there's no evidence suggesting it beyond legal roleplay between two consenting adults?

The one place no one will be able to actually molest a child is SL. Your efforts, while coming from an intent to help, are woefully misapplied.

I never branded anyone a paedophile, I said that behaviors that are that far off the edge that appear to promote the idea of using children as sexual objects should not be tolerated.

It is not tolerated to use hate speech, why would it be okay to use paedophia speech? Just like a picture is a form of communication, so is a 3D representation on a computer screen. If a grown man is using that method of communication to communicate the idea that children can be used in a sexual manner to another adult, that is speech promoting a crime.

Have you contacted the police to report this?

There is no worry of it being made "illegal", so you're just attacking people, which is pretty ironic given your claims that you're the one being attacked.

You are a dangerous person, and I thank whatever powers that be that you aren't in charge.

By that line of logic, no movie, book or song could depict any act of illegality, be it rape, murder, thievery, et. al. Depiction does not equal promotion.