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Elspeth Withnail
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03-26-2006 21:37
From: Kiari LeFay It's so clear to me that this is really a way for you to project your issues onto other people.
Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that it's better to be molested than to be spanked by a parent. Oh God don't even go there, Kiari. That one died, let it decay in peace.
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Starax Statosky
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03-26-2006 21:37
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Csven Concord
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03-26-2006 21:37
I prefer the 2000AD version, Nolan. Image LinkFrom: someone Tomas de Torquemada is the reincarnation of some of the most evil men who ever lived! As the head of the Termight Empire and its army, the Terminators, Torquemada leads a Holy Crusade to cleanse the galaxy of all things alien and "deviant." A travel wire accident was only a minor setback when he was reduced to spirit form. But not even death could stop the ultimate fascist, discovering he could return by possessing a rotting corpse. It's a tough job passing judgement, but I'll volunteer. Call me selfless.
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Lorelei Patel
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03-26-2006 21:37
From: bella Ophelia I didn't say I was into role play, I said I am truly submissive by nature in RL and it comes out in my SL character because it is a reality to me and I don't really know how to behave otherwise. Remember that for later. From: someone I don't do any structured "role play" and I don't think there is any problem with role play as long as it doesn't include the wholesale objectification of children as sexual objects. Why stop there? what about role play that includes objectification of women as sexual objects? That certainly goes on here. Is one OK and one not? From: someone Is it so hard for people to wrap their head around the fact that just like in real life, we have to keep our eyes out for issues that might be harmful to our community? OK, but who gets to decide what is harmful? You? Because you have a psychology degree? From: someone My degree is in psychology and I can assure you from everything I know that pretending to be a child in SL who is interacting with other adults pretending to be children is not going to cure any childhood psychological issues or give someone back a lost childhood. This is where you with your psychology degree really lose me. You mention that you have truely submissive tendencies. Do you really image that has nothing to do with a poor self-worth? I speak here as one person with her own submissive tendencies which I recognize are not entirely healthful. If community mental health is really your concern, maybe you should start with your own? I am sorry for what happened to you as a child, and I do understand your discomfort with this topic. I share it. But maye, your discomfort and mine really should not matter where two consenting adults are concerned.
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Kim Anubis
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03-26-2006 21:38
Okay just for you, Torley! On topic: I have a kid av. I wore it to go Trick-or-Treating inworld last Halloween, and it was a blast. But really, I wanted to post this: http://www.julala.com/_Trek_Wars-663
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prak Curie
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03-26-2006 21:38
From: bella Ophelia I said I have a degree in psychology. Have you been to school yet to learn what the difference is? A psychologist works in the field, a person who has a degree in something, studied it, read a lot and earned a college degree. In my case it was a B.A. That isn't enough to be a psychologist but since my concentration was on human sexuality, I probably have more reading on the subject than anyone else who has been attacking me thus far? I am God. How dare you question my wisdom.
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Zepp Zaftig
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03-26-2006 21:39
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Ananda Sandgrain
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03-26-2006 21:41
It does take a psych of one kind or another to diagnose thought crime, doesn't it? The problem with trying to identify and lock up every "potential" pedophile, rapist or other pre-crime flavor of the week is that after a while there is no one left free on the streets. It's a sad fact of life on Earth but everyone at one point or another has had an evil thought.
Let it go. This matter obviously disturbs you, you would be better off to not subject yourself to such fantasy images if they restimulate you so much. I'm sure all of us would be better off not to do it, but once you start eliminating such exposure simply on the basis that it might upset someone, you are soon left with no freedom of thought at all.
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Starax Statosky
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03-26-2006 21:43
From: Kim Anubis Okay just for you, Torley! On topic: I have a kid av. I wore it to go Trick-or-Treating inworld last Halloween, and it was a blast. But really, I wanted to post this: http://www.julala.com/_Trek_Wars-663 Thanks for that Kim! Kirk even pulled a rock out and hit Picard in the head with it!. So I'm not the only one who has longed to see that happen. 
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bella Ophelia
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03-26-2006 21:43
From: Lorelei Patel Remember that for later.
Why stop there? what about role play that includes objectification of women as sexual objects? That certainly goes on here. Is one OK and one not?
I'm a woman and I love to be objectified by both men and woman... From: Lorelei Patel
OK, but who gets to decide what is harmful? You? Because you have a psychology degree?
Typically a community agrees whether it is okay or not to use children for sexual gratification. Maybe in your community it is different. If so, I'll be happy to be the only one who decides this is wrong. From: Lorelei Patel
This is where you with your psychology degree really lose me. You mention that you have truely submissive tendencies. Do you really image that has nothing to do with a poor self-worth? I speak here as one person with her own submissive tendencies which I recognize are not entirely healthful. If community mental health is really your concern, maybe you should start with your own?
I am sorry for what happened to you as a child, and I do understand your discomfort with this topic. I share it. But maye, your discomfort and mine really should not matter where two consenting adults are concerned.
Or maybe you should take a stand and defend children who are not yet victimized...
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bella Ophelia
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03-26-2006 21:46
From: Ananda Sandgrain It does take a psych of one kind or another to diagnose thought crime, doesn't it? The problem with trying to identify and lock up every "potential" pedophile, rapist or other pre-crime flavor of the week is that after a while there is no one left free on the streets. It's a sad fact of life on Earth but everyone at one point or another has had an evil thought.
Let it go. This matter obviously disturbs you, you would be better off to not subject yourself to such fantasy images if they restimulate you so much. I'm sure all of us would be better off not to do it, but once you start eliminating such exposure simply on the basis that it might upset someone, you are soon left with no freedom of thought at all. I'm asking that the Lindens simply add a rule against using images of children as sexual objects. Where am I suggesting locking anyone up? I don't care if I'm upset, I care that some man is raping a child on SL and then later in his daughter's bedroom.
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Nolan Nash
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03-26-2006 21:47
From: Kim Anubis Okay just for you, Torley! On topic: I have a kid av. I wore it to go Trick-or-Treating inworld last Halloween, and it was a blast. But really, I wanted to post this: http://www.julala.com/_Trek_Wars-663That's beautiful! I recreated it just like Starax suggested -- the coup de grace being Kirk beaning Jen-Luc in the noggin with a rock! *swoons*
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-26-2006 21:48
From: bella Ophelia I'm a woman and I love to be objectified by both men and woman...
Some psychologists feel that the objectification of women leads to rape. Maybe we should ban all women AVs who don't wear burkas?
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Kim Anubis
The Magician
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03-26-2006 21:48
It's not possible to rape anyone in SL. (See, that was on topic.)
And I think Picard sucks. Now, there's a dude who needs more cowbell.
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Susie Boffin
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03-26-2006 21:48
From: Kiari LeFay It's so clear to me that this is really a way for you to project your issues onto other people.
Next thing you know, you'll be telling us that it's better to be molested than to be spanked by a parent. I never said it was better to be molested than to be spanked. Please go review my original post. I said both can be equally damaging but one is legal and the other one isn't.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-26-2006 21:49
From: bella Ophelia I'm asking that the Lindens simply add a rule against using images of children as sexual objects. Where am I suggesting locking anyone up?
I don't care if I'm upset, I care that some man is raping a child on SL and then later in his daughter's bedroom. Again --why stop there? Why not worry that some man is raping a woman on SL and then later going put to the park and raping a jogger?
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Csven Concord
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03-26-2006 21:50
From: Ananda Sandgrain It's a sad fact of life on Earth but everyone at one point or another has had an evil thought. Which is why we need the Inquisition!!!
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Starax Statosky
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03-26-2006 21:50
From: Kendra Bancroft Again --why stop there? Why not worry that some man is raping a woman on SL and then later going put to the park and raping a jogger? he'd not catch her!
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Allana Dion
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03-26-2006 21:51
From: bella Ophelia Yes, "kill the messenger," it's tried and true.
begin innaccurate assumptions as way of qualifying earlier PC statement.
Let's see... I've only said it several times before but all I suggested was an official police by the Lindens that child avatars not be used as sexual objects or for sexual means.
But what you said demonizes me better so go ahead and promote that that is what I suggested.
Yes, well, I've been in SL for 2 weeks and walked up on it because I wanted to dance and meet people. But I'm sure you are somehow living a more valid life so your experience should be considered and mine ignored.
Beautifully put. If you don't want to see crime, hide. 99% are normal, only 1% are going to rape your child tomorrow, don't worry...
worry after your child is raped and his/her life is changed forever. 99% okay... let's see... that is 1 person in 100... how many people do I think a child meets in the course of being a child... okay, well, maybe if they cross their fingers they won't come upon one of these unusual specimens. Whew! Ok with responding to this one I'm officially done because I'm getting a headache and you're not getting the point. I wasn't trying to demonize you, I misunderstood your goal, shoot me. You're too busy seeing yourself as the victim here being attacked by everyone else to really hear what anyone is saying... maybe in a few days when you've calmed down you might reread some of it and gain some perspective. Quote: "Yes, well, I've been in SL for 2 weeks and walked up on it because I wanted to dance and meet people. But I'm sure you are somehow living a more valid life so your experience should be considered and mine ignored." No not a more valid life of course not! But a longer one in SL, with more experiences here that have nothing to do with sex and dance clubs.... so when you read this again in a few days with a clearer head.... let me state again my advice... Explore. Look around, go to places you WOULDN'T go to for sex and you'll see that not all of SL is about that and not everyone here is doing it. Yes there is the 1% out there who might be dangerous... absolutely. They exist in all worlds everywhere. But I say again... you can't censor the innocent to prevent the possibility some might be guilty. And you can't censor anyone based only on YOUR opinion of right and wrong. Quote: "worry after your child is raped and his/her life is changed forever. 99% okay... let's see... that is 1 person in 100... how many people do I think a child meets in the course of being a child... okay, well, maybe if they cross their fingers they won't come upon one of these unusual specimens" NO I dont worry after, I prevent. I keep my child out of potentially harmful environments like oh say virtual worlds. This is why children aren't allowed here. Again I'll say it..... there are NO child victims in the activities you are so opposed to... lets focus on the real life abusers.
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Nolan Nash
Frischer Frosch
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03-26-2006 21:51
From: bella Ophelia I'm asking that the Lindens simply add a rule against using images of children as sexual objects. Where am I suggesting locking anyone up?
I don't care if I'm upset, I care that some man is raping a child on SL and then later in his daughter's bedroom. So ask them in the proper channel. Email them, call their 800 number, ask in the Answers Forum, start a proposition on the voting page. Insulting people by insinuating they are pedos or men playing women because they happen to think your ideas are off-base is not the proper channel. It's downright RUDE. And I don't care if you aren't a psychologist. You're acting as if you are one by throwing around unverifiable credentials and analyzing people who disagree with you.
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bella Ophelia
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03-26-2006 21:51
From: Kendra Bancroft Some psychologists feel that the objectification of women leads to rape.
Maybe we should ban all women AVs who don't wear burkas? Maybe... but I don't agree and I haven't heard anyone suggest this except you. I am suggesting we ban the use of child avatars as sexual objects... use your own post to ban all women AVs who don't wear burkas. ...the stupidity dumbfounds me.
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Elspeth Withnail
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03-26-2006 21:51
From: Susie Boffin I never said it was better to be molested than to be spanked. Please go review my original post. I said both can be equally damaging but one is legal and the other one isn't. Ohmigod they're rising from the dead! COWBELL! STAT! Erm... uh... ontopic... uh... oh, right, Kirk would totally kick Picard's butt.
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Kendra Bancroft
Rhine Maiden
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03-26-2006 21:52
From: Kim Anubis It's not possible to rape anyone in SL. (See, that was on topic.)
And I think Picard sucks. Now, there's a dude who needs more cowbell. Correct on rape being impossible in SL. Incorrect on Picard. Obviously you never saw him battle a Nausican.
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bella Ophelia
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03-26-2006 21:53
From: Kendra Bancroft Again --why stop there? Why not worry that some man is raping a woman on SL and then later going put to the park and raping a jogger? Every person can't take up every cause... I have mine, you choose yours.
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Kendra Bancroft
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03-26-2006 21:53
From: bella Ophelia Maybe... but I don't agree and I haven't heard anyone suggest this except you.
I am suggesting we ban the use of child avatars as sexual objects... use your own post to ban all women AVs who don't wear burkas.
...the stupidity dumbfounds me. I'm just using your logic. Also I fail to see why the personal attack at me. I've not attacked you.
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