Ageplay

Read beyond the summary. Other than textures it is not.

lol yea. and whats with all the newbie avatars? someone should ban all them cuz its a sexual fad too. that white shirt with the blue stripes, wide head, and brown hair. There's way too many of them and they do naughty things, and are multiplying every day. XD Some of them even have 10 newbie groups in their profile. they also have a box fetish. They just cant keep from wearing one. ;p And most of them don't know how to script. thats just wrong! XD And whats with their faded jeans anyway? what they trying to prove?

/me notes that she is joking. <3 teh newbs.

As much fun as it is to read yet another half dozen or more age play threads (we just dont have enough emotional and irrational dramah these days!), it really pisses me off that people throw around the word 'Paedophilia' so freely. Once more, there is no paedophilia being committed when both avatars are controlled by consenting adults, whatever the avatar is dressed as.

You can think it abhorrent, sick, twisted, or whatever you like. But it isn't paedophilia any way you slice it. Just like cybering with a furry av isn't beastiality. Just like cybering with a girl who turns out to be a guy doesn't make you gay.

The clue is in the word 'virtual' in the phrase 'virtual sex'. Or the 'cyber' in 'cyber sex'. Or the 'play' in 'age play' or 'role play' (actually 'role' in role play too!). Are you beginning to get it yet?

The real crime here is in people continually trivialising the serious real life crimes behind their apparent concerns in this way. People who seemingly can't distinguish that SL != RL.

Watch out. Cris descended like the Wrath of God on me for making a statement like that.

Though a Cris Vs. Kris battle might be interesting.

And Cris is very welcome to his opinion. Mine is that no real life crime is occuring and people are making like it is, thus trivialising child abuse/paedophilia.

I also think it no more follows that any rl abuse will occur as a result of two adults age playing in a virtual environment than that wearing a furry av in SL will compel you to do the same irl. Or that being a Viking in Sl means you have a lifelong rl urge to rape and pillage.

Frankly, I think Robins post on LL's stance exactly mirrors my own thoughts. There are things you will no doubt consider distasteful that go on in Second Life (land barons is one of mine). But that doesnt mean they should be banned or disciplined.

But you aren't talking about children. You are talking about adults. No one here is being victimized. Except maybe us by you but that's a different topic I think. Quite simply put -- no children are involved here. Everything you witness, everything we are talking about, is a virtual action by two consenting adults. In some cases its not even a virtual action but the potential of a virtual action. In MOST cases, I'll hazard, its not even a potential. Other than in that sick head of yours.

Lets face it... most of us were going blithely about our business, having fun, arguing about cowbells, worshipping Torley, and practicing non-child-av types of deviant sex. If we saw a child AV, which was rare because really they DO tend to hang out with each other far away from the madding crowd and they do child-type things that don't include things sexual. Its YOU who brought sex into the mix -- not them. Not us.

There's no one on this forum arguing with you that wouldn't immediately defend children from molestation and other horrid evil child-harming things out in the world. But I, like the rest of the crowd, is looking around and we aren't seeing any children being hurt. YOU are the one taking a harmless activity and perverting it in your mind. Not those with the child AVs. They just wanted to play make-believe. I want to be a pretty princess. I have a pretty princess costume in world. That doesn't make me a pretty princess. I'm not gonna go out and look for prince charming IRL. Having a child AV in world means just that. It doesn't mean that someone is going to wake up and go out and look for kids to molest tomorrow.

You are not the thought police. You are not the fantasy police. Obviously your efforts to make us take up your banner and be the thought and fantasy police in your company have failed. Obviously you are not finding much interest. So why are you still here? What is it you think you can say, at this stage of the game and with 15 odd pages of posts, that can change anyone's mind?

If you truly think this is a problem, what you should be doing is bothering law enforcement agencies -- not arguing with uninterested parties on message boards where you'll recieve kind-hearted debated at best and ridicule at worst. So go do that. Stop this insanity -- you do yourself and your cause no favors by remaining here arguing in vain.

LOL hay not to be mean but not evarone is in to sex, i play a furry so dos that make me a beastlty?
so i say if some one wants to play a miner lit tham,
I would hope this adults who play miner report any paedophiles.
this now sounds like a witch hunt.

I sense the formation of the New Inquisition slipping away. *sigh*

You suggested it first. The burden of proof rests on you.

"What? No EVIDENCE that you are all satanist heathens? I ask you, where is the evidence you are NOT?!"

It's interesting how your argument has degraded to the point where such logical fallacies are not only your last option here, and also that you pretty much show no shame in commiting them.

Wait, wait... I already know your response. I'll type it for you.

"Last option? Logical fallacies? It's a logical fallacy to suggest that I'm a satanist heathen just for trying to to get a decent discussion about all the child rape that's going on right under our noses in SL!"

Was I close?

It is more logical to surmise that out of 150,000 users of SL that there might be... oh ONE pedophile lurking... and maybe even a satanist heathen.

Or is simple math beyond you?

Supposition is not proof.

Nor has anyone denied there may be real pedophiles in SL.

You have not, as of yet, decided to address these people, however.

Would that one person happen to have a name that rhymes with 'fella'? What's your favorite Slayer album? I like Seasons in the Abyss.

Well, generally I've noticed that those who obsess over a topic, in an anti-topic form, generally are trying to deal with closet tendancies mixed with fear.

You know, if you look at "Belaya" right, with the right accent...

I was going to say "Roots" but then I realized that's Sepultura. Carry on.

And more than one abusive spouse.

In my opinion everyone that has posted on this thread has lost thier minds. Including myself for even posting this. If Bella is a troll why the hell do you keep feeding her? You all know that if you don't feed, they lose interest and go away. Do any of you realize that by coming back here time after time and posting you are making trolls of yourselves? Jesus! I thought the SciFi boards are bad. You people are making the SciFi boards look like a picnic and I know from personal experience it is not!

Bella, I am not saying you are a troll. But, the constant bickering and fighting will turn you into one if you are not careful. I have also been abused both as a child and as an adult, but, at the age of 46, I can honestly say I have not allowed it to harm me for many years. I am a survivor, not a victim any longer. You've made your point and gotten your reactions. Best thing to do is let it go at that and do what you feel you must.

To be honest, I think you all need to grow the hell up.

HAY! I do believe we were discussing Slayer..

Here's some simple math for you!

One Adult + One Adult + Virtual Environment = ?


(The correct answer is Pedophilia. Child Abuse or Child Porn are acceptable answers)

I am sure at least a couple of you can work out where I am going with this on your own.

Really, there's no need to bait her. Keep responding to her with rational and calm posts, she's self-destructing without anyone having to fall to her level.

Sleep is for the weak!

Just putting my name in the bucket so I can contribute to two locked threads in one night while I can.

So is trolling.

Locking threads means the forums are more secure. Basic child safety.