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Jonas Pieterson--you have private messages disabled, so the only way I can say this is in the forum.

You have the right to manage your land any way you want to. You're paying for the land, and you're contributing a hell of a lot more money a month to the lindens than I am, which is only $10 a month.

SL for a huge percentage of people is about finding cool new places to see, hang out, and finding cool new people. You don't seem to be in SL for any of those reasons, and it seriously confuses me.

Have you ever considered working with game engines of other programs that you could share with your close friends instead? You know, something that's completely closed to the public to begin with...

Griefers primarily grief to ruin the enjoyment of SL for people. I question your motives in the way you handle your land as to whether you don't just do it for the same reason as griefers grief--to purposely ruin the enjoyment of SL for people.

Others who talk about privacy on this forum seem to make sense--they seem to just be genuinely wanting privacy. Your posts do not give me that impression, and until you say some things that do give me that impression, I'm going to believe, as well as I imagine many others will believe as well, that you are primarily interested in SL so you can implement power trips--and you have that right, you're paying a substantial amount more a month for that privilege. Just like in real life, in SL, money is power, and just like in real life, there's nothing illegal about being on a power trip.

Your posts are the reason why I almost quit SL because your posts gave me the impression that exploring in SL was a bad thing. Luckily, after getting re-assured from others on SL, I found out that exploring generally IS a good thing and it is the reason why a lot of people are involved with SL.

I refuse to judge others in SL by your attitude.

i won't be flying around trying to see you "DOING IT" your being rediculous if you think anyone is that interested in your sex life, lol unless your just real insecure about it, i am so laffin... theres a button on your land you can set to keep anyone but yourself off the land, but then youd be limited to sex with yourself, well i guess thats virtual sex anyway...ok so what is everyones point here?? Leave the explorers alone or ill tell em how to get beyond a locked door...still laffin

And I'll turn damage on and hit you with a 100% damage autokill thats nonphysical and ignores shields.

Also legal, and as the land is set to damage enabled, within ToS.

Oh god, this is gonna have to be my last post - my gut hurts too much from laughing at these guys.

Like anyone with any knowledge of SL gives a hoot for damage enabled land! It's nothing more than a TP home and with P2P teleport any target can be back almost instantly if they so choose. And this will only work if the target is on your parcel - otherwise its so much hot air.

The simple fact remains - if someone wants a snapshot of your skybox, or anything on the parcel for that matter, inside or out, they will get it and there's nada you can do about it short of buying a sim and closing it off.

its also fun watchinh you get fried over and over again.

Nope ... sorry.... this would be considered tatamount to an illegal chatlog bug if the skybox was occupied. Peeping toms get suspended all the time for stuff here.

Not sure if you were responding to me or some earlier post. Sure they can get suspended if you use the proper tools. But if the land owner retaliates with an illegal method as Jonas suggested, then he can be ARd too... and LL are renowned for coming down very hard on retaliation.

And that will get YOU ARd. By the way... your damage-enabled trick only applies if damage is anabled BEFORE the victim enters your land. If you turn it on after and kill them, then that is a reportable offence.

And I'll turn damage on and hit you with a 100% damage autokill thats nonphysical and ignores shields.

Also legal, and as the land is set to damage enabled, within ToS.

No, it isn't. I've had the incident before, was reported, and they got suspended for harassment. I've never been suspended.

Yeah but if you use a hack for looking in where you couldn't normally reach, ARs do hurt you. Have fun in the cornfield!

Oh and it is more than just a TP home, its also fun watchinh you get fried over and over again.

Then you've been lucky. To be honest, I would say a lot of your posts have been harrassment, but since they weren't aimed at me, I haven't reported them... I'm surprised nobody else hasn't though.

Harrassment "posts"? does that mean we can report Belial?

If you consider it harrassment, sure... LL will decide the right of it.

True. The same could be said of any structure, but point taken.



Who said anything about going inside...or even looking inside? You see, this is the argument that puts my eyes on permanent roll...I see no problem with flying by and taking pictures of any structure (even a freakin' skybox) if you do so at a respectful distance. I'm not talking about walking on the thing, peeking in the windows or anything like that for fucks sake.

People immediately go to the extreme. Someone says they would like to take pictures of skyboxes and folks yell "GRIEFER!!!!" The implication is that "taking pictures of skyboxes" equals walking in uninvited. It doesn't.

All of this could be avoided very easily. Build a huge plywood cube. Make the inside as beautiful as you want. This will foil the evil explorers who happen by looking for interesting builds. All the while, you'll be inside chuckling, sitting on your luxurious leather sofa knowing how fabulous your plywood cube really is.

But this attitude is just a reflection of the real world. No one should be surprised.

http://www.boingboing.net/2005/07/28/no_taking_pix_of_san.html

I know this story involves taking pictures of buildings from public places but the similarities came to me immediately. The camera Nazis are alive and well in SL as well as RL.

What bothers me most is that the notion of privacy in SL has become an all-encompassing ideal that results in the building of virtual walls. Seeing harm in taking a picture of the outside of a structure boggles my mind. Personally, I hope I never become so infatuated with this definition of privacy that a I set myself apart from the world, virtual or otherwise.

Personally, I'm done with posting in or reading this thread. This discussion has made me feel like crap for a whole variety of reasons, and I'm sorry I ever got involved in it.

I think youve presented yourself , in a fair and balanced manner (as always) Illian.

Personally, I'm done with posting in or reading this thread. This discussion has made me feel like crap for a whole variety of reasons, and I'm sorry I ever got involved in it.