Down with letting any user make and market content!

and this...

Coco, so he doesn't like your stuff. Big deal.

For whatever reason, he doesn't.

Life is.

I like HIS stuff though. J-Wu's castle blew my mind when I first saw it.

Beautiful work! I hadn't even seen those yet! Thanks Ingrid

Yup - Prok doesn't like my stuff - on principle - and she's entitled to that opinion - and she makes NOTHING.

Someone doesn't have to be able to make things to have an opinion on what they like / don't like. It's not a prerequisite.

Technical proficiency is not a matter of taste. If you like/dislike something is.

For the rest of it, OMG... stop obsessing about Jauani not liking your angels!!!!!!!! Jauani is probably getting much more amusement over your reaction than anything else.

Advice: don't let anyone know where your goat is, so they can't get it.

To rate something as "worthless" and "only fit for the trash", as I believe he rated Coco's angels, implies that you can, or have, make something much better yourself - hence the basis of my line of thought.

Last night, I wanted to put some fish in my pond. Having bought one 3d fish which swam under its own script randomly, for L$250, it's all nice and impressive, but for a quick visual effect, the ones I made myself using an image I found on Google and a bit of photoshoppery, and a L$10 upload, it's as good to the casual observer.

Maybe not "as good" as the L$250 one.... but it did the job.

Lewis

God Prok hates your stuff Siggy. And Prok is so vocal about it! Paragraph after paragraph about how she can't stand your things. Prok is also a good friend of Coco, who has never criticized her for doing it.

If i had dime for every hipocritical remark... I'd be in Siggy's hot tub surrounded by oiled up, muscly men in leopard print g-strings.

Yep, prims and textures, the same tool that absolutely anyone has at their disposal, and given enough time, anyone with the desire and patience could probably reproduce something similar. Sadly I have neither, nor the land, so I can't.

Lewis

You know, speaking of inspiration and whatnot, I will tell you what inspired me on those angel ornaments.

Adam Zaius invited everyone to put an ornament on the beautiful tree he made for Azure Islands. (And I wish more people had!! Dad gum, that was a good idea!) I love this sort of thing, and the first thing that popped into my head was, "an angel ornament."

So I made one, and we put it on the tree.

Then I started thinking, you know, this could go on a tabletop. Which put me in mind of a couple of small angel sets (3 each) that I have in all the Christmas junk of mine and that I inherited. So I thought, I will make three of them, the other two in different colors, and sell them as a set! (For $25, not a huge amount, and transferrable.)

So I did, and that was how that project came about. I enjoyed doing it very much.

Now consider, if you will, this question: Who else came up with this particular item? Probably people have come up with angel ornament sets, but I never saw any, and in any case, they would be different from mine.

And now question #2: Would Jauani Wu have made this set? Answer: Probably not.

So, would the world be better off without a little angel ornament set just because Jauani Wu would not have made one himself, and declares them crap? I don't think so.

It is a big world we have here - big enough for all kinds of talent, and all kinds of items, to all kinds of taste.

The real world is the same way. It's big enough for all kinds of talent, with all kinds of items, to all kinds of taste. There is more than one movie star, more than one TV star, more than one writer, more than one fashion designer, more than one architect, more than one style. There is ALWAYS room for more talent, and always room - and hunger - for more variety. No one person could ever begin to produce it all, and it all brings pleasure to us.

coco

Wow, thats a leap in logic, or the complete absence of.

That's true, and I don't mind. What I DO mind is his saying unnecessarily hateful things about my products, particularly in threads I made to discuss a star rating product. I mean, come on - the guy said GHASTLY stuff.

coco

Really? It made perfect sense to me. It's impossible to criticise someone else for making something 'crap' if you can't do better yourself.

Personally I'd rather just let sales do the talking. If Jauani has not made a 'tabletop angel set', s/he has sold zero. If Coco has sold one, by definitions hers is "better" and "a more popular sale" than the other.

Coco is known as a house builder and seller. How many has J sold, compared to Coco's sales I wonder? I know that sort of information is personal and not likely to be made public but I would bet the same L$25 from yesterday nobody claimed that Coco would win.

Lewis

Thats funny I thought he rated them one star - or 'terrible'
And here in this thread he said he thought they were 'lame'

The rest is something you made up - and now choose to get indignant over.

Sorry but he's entitled to his opinion.. and how much coco loves them (and face it we all love what we make) - doesn't mean everyone else will like them. He doesn't, thats his opinion - you can't change it... He doesn't have to prove anything to have that opinion.

I think Jackson Pollack is a load of shit - and I can't paint... doesn't change the fact that I think its a load of shit.

And that makes me giggle every day I'm thinking of buying that plot for sale in Ravenglass and digging through my inv for that old 1.3 beachhouse that she loves so much

I think I have one of Starax's king kongs I can pose over it too

Movie critics do it every day - as do book reviewers - art critics - the judges on Iron Chef America - my boss - I dare say even you have at some point said something was crap.. a movie.. a book... an acting performance ... a meal.

Okay. So Wu doesn't like your little angels.

Why does his opinion matter so much to you? Or, more to the point, why does his opinion matter so much to you that you feel the need to bleat and bleat for so many posts about it?

Look at all this:



Just because one dude tells you he doesn't like something you made. Don't you have better things to do? Seriously. I get the feeling like you won't rest until everyone you meet is paying you whatever enormous volume of respect you think you're owed. I mean, I thought you would shake this after awhile, but it's been something like ten months now. There are better places in which to invest your energies.

That's an assertion and not an argument.

If you look at all this closely, you'll not that, in the end, opinion can't be either valid or invalid - becasue that's not the nature of opinion. Instead, you can give a damn about a person's opinion or not give a damn about it - based on whatever criteria works for you.

If you require a person to have demonstrated thier building skill by creating saleable homes before they can cast an opinion on another salable home, that's all well and good. It's also just another opinion.

Good advice, Surreal. He also is trying to hurt my sales and my business, too, though, don't forget that.

And now that I have seen the pictures of the castles, I will say that they look terrific! Very old and atmosphery, unlike some of the castles I've seen which look like they were made yesterday. (And castles aren't SUPPOSED to look like they were made yesterday, are they!)

These are also very large structures, and very free-form. I am not interested in making castles, at least not right now (never say never), just as Jauani is probably not interested in making angel sets.

There is room for everyone in all these niches. I may not be crazy about modern SL architecture, but I can recognize a nicely-made modern architecture, such as Barney makes. I enjoy the nice builds Ingrid makes (which aren't all modern, but also include homey ones that you could move right into).

If you want to go to EXTREMES, then try comparing a huge castle to a tiny angel ornament. They just don't scale. I feel confident in saying that my angel ornaments are just as nice angel ornaments as his castles are nice castles.

coco

Not at all. It is possible to both assess something critically and declare whether or not you like it without being able to create it.

I cannot create an automobile, however, I can determine if it is reliable and easy to drive. I can decide if I think it's attractive or butt ugly.

Once again you are dodging the point and making sure people know you have been wronged.

It is only because we were once on friendly terms that I am willing to be more blut with you, I would let your behavior slide if you were a stranger, trust me.

So its impossible to critique a film, book, work of art unless and until the would-be critique'er has shot a film, written a book or made a work of art? Riiiight. No one is allowed to have a valid opinion to something unless they themselves have not only done said thing but done so in a qualitatively superior fashion to any potential subject of critique.

Makes perfect sense Mr. Lewis "WhiteKnight" Nerd.

So following your twisted bit of logic what exactly makes you feel free to critique Jani or anyone here about anything? Just wondering if your logic cuts both ways or if its reserved for defending ill-chosen maids in faux-distress mr. whiteknight?

In other words, he never made that claim. Nor did he imply it. You inferred it, and decided to put those words into his mouth.

Indeed. If I can't make a chateubriand, am I thus unqualified to say it's delicious? Am I unqualified to say that it tastes like cardboard? Surely not.

You're a foodie, I've tried some of your recipies - that analogy doens't work with you as the subject.

Post a recipie, BTW... I'm looking for something interesting to make for dinner