Down with letting any user make and market content!
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Jauani Wu
pancake rabbit
Join date: 7 Apr 2003
Posts: 3,835
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12-22-2005 06:09
the freedom for anyone to create and sell content is being gamed such that there is a lot of mediocre and even ugly content out there!
LL, please put a stop to letting just anyone rez a prim. for example look at other succesful games like WOW and There, where players cannot just upload a funy texture and sell tshirts.
Thank you!
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
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12-22-2005 06:13
I think when a user makes a product that becomes popular, the Lindens should place control of that product up for bid. I mean, what right to these users have to "appoint" themselves as the administrator of a product?!
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Pol Tabla
synthpop saint
Join date: 18 Dec 2003
Posts: 1,041
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12-22-2005 06:17
Good morning Aimee and Wu. What's the rumpus?
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Lordfly Digeridoo
Prim Orchestrator
Join date: 21 Jul 2003
Posts: 3,628
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12-22-2005 06:19
I dunno, but we should Hunt the Wumpus instead.
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
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12-22-2005 06:20
From: Pol Tabla Good morning Aimee and Wu. What's the rumpus? Good morning. And I have no idea what I just typed. I haven't had my first Diet Coke of the day yet.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
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12-22-2005 06:44
Whilst I agree that there is a *lot* of crap out there for sale, I prefer the 'self regulation' method of simply not buying it. Some of the stuff is very very good - but ridiculously overpriced.
Probably a good time to point people to my siggy and advertise my nice little store.
Lewis
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Ingrid Ingersoll
Archived
Join date: 10 Aug 2004
Posts: 4,601
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12-22-2005 06:56
From: Lordfly Digeridoo I dunno, but we should Hunt the Wumpus instead.
Heffalumps and Woozles are a much bigger problem. We should start with them.
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IC Fetid
Registered User
Join date: 19 Oct 2005
Posts: 145
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12-22-2005 06:56
May this one ask "How many see this thread as a satirical reference to another LL policy change?"
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Issarlk Chatnoir
Cross L. apologist.
Join date: 3 Oct 2004
Posts: 424
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12-22-2005 07:03
From: Aimee Weber I think when a user makes a product that becomes popular, the Lindens should place control of that product up for bid. I mean, what right to these users have to "appoint" themselves as the administrator of a product?! What? You Kapitalist dog! Ven a produkt become popular LL should ginink it to masses! The glorious LL, friends of proletaria, already gave all of the comrade the means of produktion ; any comrade is able of buildink anythink in SL. But now LL must take the next step: nationalize all good produkts! Take produkt off of the treacherous subhumans who build content for money ; and give it to the proletaria! No comrade should be left without prim hair, or a big car, or workink prim genitals! LL, the people are countink on you!
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Sable Sunset
Prim Herder
Join date: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 223
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12-22-2005 07:14
/me winces, covers her face with her hands and mutters "Jeeez, stop giving them ideas..." 
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Catherine Omega
Geometry Ninja
Join date: 10 Jan 2003
Posts: 2,053
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12-22-2005 07:27
Frankly, I think popular items are inherently discriminatory and unfairly make other, less popular products look bad! The Lindens need to step in and make sure that popular products are removed as quickly as possible, to avoid rumours of favoritism.
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FlipperPA Peregrine
Magically Delicious!
Join date: 14 Nov 2003
Posts: 3,703
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12-22-2005 07:46
Eliminate all the products, all the land... oh wait, we already have IRC. Well, those who can figure out how to log in through all the passwords and barriers keeping people out. 
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Frans Charming
You only need one Frans
Join date: 28 Jan 2005
Posts: 1,847
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12-22-2005 07:51
To make sure nothing gets to popular and widespread, everything older then 3 months needs to be deleted. This will depress enough older player that newbies can fill the market up again.
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Ricky Zamboni
Private citizen
Join date: 4 Jun 2004
Posts: 1,080
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12-22-2005 07:54
From: Aimee Weber I think when a user makes a product that becomes popular, the Lindens should place control of that product up for bid. I mean, what right to these users have to "appoint" themselves as the administrator of a product?! I think the Lindens should just take the product and bring it under their own control. That way it's easier for *everyone* to access! Or, at least I *think* that's their argument...  </passive-aggressive>
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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12-22-2005 08:00
The rumpus is they are still on my case for daring to complain about the gaming of the stars thread rating system in classifieds that has been going on for the past few weeks now. This in addition to purposely rating my threads and classified product threads low just because they can. Which, ironically, proves my point. coco P.S. Look at the names of the ridiculers in this thread, Lewis, and others reading this. They run this game. They use derision and ridicule - en masse - to make fun of who they want to, because they disagree with that person's ideas. And they have free run of the forums to do so. In this particular case, they're making fun of my desire that the stars be turned off in the classifieds and my notions of equal opportunity for all. THIS IS BECAUSE I SAID I THOUGHT THE STARS SHOULD BE TURNED OFF IN CLASSIFIED. They don't believe I should be allowed to say such controversial, hideous things. So they respond with mass ridicule like the babies they are. They very much don't want me, Coco, to speak on these forums, or to persuade others, regarding fairness or anything. They care not for anyone's feelings but their own hyena-like amusement. They are like an abusive spouse one should leave. One sticks around for months on end in virtual disbelief that (a) people could actually be like this, rather than serious about ideas and respectful towards others' ideas, (b) that the Lindens allow it, and (c) that these particular individuals actually do run this game and these forums. But they do - and as such, they act as a very abusive spouse that ruins enjoyment of and participation in a marriage, or in this case, a game. I really don't think it is possible to speak on these boards without their approval, otherwise you come in for their RELENTLESS abuse. They aren't about to let go of a dribble of their group power. It sucks. And I'm willing to tell everyone that this is the way it is.
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Hank Ramos
Lifetime Scripter
Join date: 15 Nov 2003
Posts: 2,328
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12-22-2005 08:09
From: FlipperPA Peregrine Eliminate all the products, all the land... oh wait, we already have IRC. Well, those who can figure out how to log in through all the passwords and barriers keeping people out.  mmm, barriers... I see a barrier to getting into IRC...
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Fallingwater Cellardoor
Registered User
Join date: 11 Oct 2003
Posts: 304
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12-22-2005 08:20
From: Cocoanut Koala The rumpus is they are still on my case for daring to complain .... What?? It's a satire of what people have been posting about developer incentives. Jau made a serious post about it somewhere too.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
Posts: 3,431
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12-22-2005 08:23
Oh don't worry Coco, I undestand exactly how they work.
It's exactly the same on the TSO Stratics forums. People that made a fuss when things didn't go their way (like being busted for cheating) and quit the game in a big vocal denigration of the "state" of the game and the "ineptitude" of EA, then come back to the forums repeatedly and attack anyone and everyone who still plays the game. Sadly the Stratics forums are free, as is SL so anyone can make an alt and come here.
Sadly some people just don't understand how pathetic they get when the anonymity of the internet kicks in and lets them do whatever they want. They somehow think they "win" when they can attack other people and get away with it - but it just shows how lame they are because they can't counter your point of view with anything of any substance.
I've been through it in TSO for my stand against payouts (for SL read camping chairs) and my tireless campaign against cheaters, and the thing that these people don't understand is that the more they attack you, they don't grind you down like they want, they make you stronger and more determined to stick up for what you believe in.
Sure there's a few vocal people with strong opinions - which of course they're entitled to have - but most people here are just lemmings who follow anyone who can proclaim themselves some kind of 'hero' to those looking for some direction. Reminds me of the Popular People's Front of Judea, and the Judean Popular Front, and the .... (L$25 for the first person to IM me with the source of that if you're bothered).
I just rest on the fact that people like you and me, who care about the game we play and enjoy what we do, will still be around long after some of these pillocks have given up griefing and gone off to annoy people in another game (or grown out of diapers, whichever comes first).
You and I, and many others, contribute something useful to the game. I expect most that choose to attack are either skillless, clueless or alts, and just jealous of what we can do; and would rather spend their hours camping in a laggy blingfest excuse of some crap nightclub playing crap music to people who aren't there to listen. Because, believe it or not, SL is not all about how much money you can make doing something (or, in the case of camping chairs, not doing something).
Lewis
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Aimee Weber
The one on the right
Join date: 30 Jan 2004
Posts: 4,286
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12-22-2005 08:23
From: Fallingwater Cellardoor What??
It's a satire of what people have been posting about developer incentives. Jau made a serious post about it somewhere too. No No!! This thread is actually a thinly veiled attack against ME! J-Wu, you aren't fooling anybody. I know you didn't name me specifically because you are so COY, but I know perfectly well this is just another attempt to BASH ME, to SILENCE ME. For that matter, all the other threads in this forum are about bashing me too. 
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Siggy Romulus
DILLIGAF
Join date: 22 Sep 2003
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12-22-2005 08:25
From: Lewis Nerd Probably a good time to point people to my siggy and advertise my nice little store. Lewis
 It is a nice store!
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Cocoanut Koala
Coco's Cottages
Join date: 7 Feb 2005
Posts: 7,903
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12-22-2005 08:28
From: Fallingwater Cellardoor What?? It's a satire of what people have been posting about developer incentives. Jau made a serious post about it somewhere too. . Tell that to someone who wasn't in my thread with Jauani yesterday, complete with his remarks about my "mediocre" content, and how he'd throw my Angel Ornament Set in the trash if I gave him one for free. Read the rest of the comments, regarding fairness and equal opportunity Get real. Now they are going to lie that it isn't about me at all. That I'm imagining the whole thing. Don't make me puke, Aimee. I've been down this same road too many times. coco
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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12-22-2005 08:29
From: Siggy Romulus  It is a nice store! Thankyou  I know I don't sell a lot yet but I'm still looking to do things that aren't saturating the market already. I hope you popped into my 70's club next door and enjoyed a bit of that too. It's not *just* that I can't afford more than my two 1024 sq m plots - but I don't think that anything needs to be that big - and in fact it takes more skill to have something look good on a 1024 sq m plot than it does to clutter up half a sim, especially when it comes to clubs and stores. Lewis
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Chip Midnight
ate my baby!
Join date: 1 May 2003
Posts: 10,231
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12-22-2005 08:32
From: Aimee Weber No No!! This thread is actually a thinly veiled attack against ME! J-Wu, you aren't fooling anybody. I know you didn't name me specifically because you are so COY, but I know perfectly well this is just another attempt to BASH ME, to SILENCE ME. For that matter, all the other threads in this forum are about bashing me too.  Nice try, Aimee, but clearly this thread is about me! Why?! Why must you all harass me so?! Bastards. Help! Help! I's been a victim of disprimination! note: this post is for entertainment purposes only. Any similarity to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.
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Lewis Nerd
Nerd by name and nature!
Join date: 9 Oct 2005
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12-22-2005 08:34
From: Cocoanut Koala . Tell that to someone who wasn't in my thread with Jauani yesterday, complete with his remarks about my "mediocre" content, and how he'd throw my Angel Ornament Set in the trash if I gave him one for free. I'm sure, of course, that Jaundiced Wee - or whatever his name is - could make a far, far more attractive angel ornament set in a fraction of the time and a fraction of the price. No doubt they're already for sale in his fantastic store. [/sarcasm] Hopefully enough people will have the common sense to actually check out these claims rather than just dismissing them blindly. I doubt if his aim was to generate you more traffic and business but certainly if I saw something like this I'd want to go along and check it out for myself before responding in a thread like this. I think they're great, by the way. Lewis
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George Flan
Registered User
Join date: 21 Sep 2005
Posts: 268
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Question?
12-22-2005 08:37
Has not this program been advertised by LL as a program for all do to as they want. I thought it was a program where we can be anyone we want, do the things we like to do. It has been promoted as a way for people to become creator of products to sell to others in SL. If someone makes a crapy t-shirt that is up to them, how else are they to learn what might sell and what will not. The general population of SL will either buy or will not buy what is out there. Controlling what a person makes and tries to sell defeats the so-called purpose of LL and the SL envirnoment. I am in here to have fun, meet people, and have a good time. At some point I may decide to make something and will put it out for sell. If it is not any good then I will find out real quick when it doesn't sell. That is my choice in SL.
I read these forums on a daily basis to see what is going on, try to learn a few things, and keep up on things. It seems it has become nothing more than a sounding board for the complainers. Let's get the forum back to what it's main purpose is suppose to be instead of a forum to flame someone else. And if my English is not good at times or I spell a word wrong, please don't flame me.....lol
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