Lords and Peasants

To me.

To me.

One of my friends came onto SL, spent $22 for the 3-month landholder subscription. Got 512m2 from first land. Put a shack on it for three months, then decided it wasn't for him, and sold the plot for L$3000.

He spent $22 all told, logged on 4 times, and by the time he decided to check out he had L$11,000 and sold it on Lindex for US$41.

So he made $19 on SL without doing a thing.

This isn't the most noble business model, but he wasn't even trying to make money.

If it's this easy to make twenty donuts on SL, then if you really feel like you absolutely cannot even *survive*, then you're doing something wrong.

You CANNOT get output if you put in NO INPUT.

If you don't want to WORK, you'll have to PAY for your entertainment.
If you don't want to PAY for your entertainment, you'll have to WORK for your entertainment.

At least ONE of the two above statements are true for ANY online service, be it WOW, EQ, TSO, There, and yes, SL.

But so many people slide in on the free accounts and proclaim; "HERE I AM. ENTERTAIN ME."

If THAT is not the attitude of a "Lord" I don't know what is.

The other week I logged on as my 'newbie alt' - because I DO want to see what the newbie experience is like.

I made SOME money at Tringo, but then finally I dropped US$20 on my avatar and was able to buy pretty much everything i wanted for my av, and had some left over.

Now I realize $20 is "a lot" for some people. But if that's the case... it's kinda interesting that you're sitting behind a high-spec computer hooked up to a broadband connection, let me just say.

But what about me? Me. ... What about me...

I'm talking about viable business models. Incentives in the economy.

Entertainment, mainly.

But it's not the money I'm talking about so much.

Or the stipends.

I'm talking about viable business models. Incentives in the economy.

No, you're not talking about that. You have refused to give concrete examples.

Let's hear what you've got.

edit: Also, a viable business model is not dependent on transient economic incentives.

I HAVE teh SOLUTION!

Everyone must give half of all of their L$ to me, I will then convert that to real money and purchase a real world bakery, and open a Fed-Ex account. When you log on, instead of wasting time furthering yourself artisically, furthering your mind and your creativity, furthering your ingenuity and learning new skills, we will all stand in line. I will stand with hopefully Philip and/or Jeska at the head of the line laughing heartily, and as each person reaches the head of the line (keep in mind that you lose your spot if you log out) they will IM me their real world mailing address, and I will Fed-Ex them a loaf of bread.

Seriously, Coco. What are you really asking for. Say it plainly and succinctly. Because I don't think its "more business opportunities".

LL didn't create our business models or opportunities. We did.

What is it exactly that you want Linden to do, if it isn't "print more money"?

What sort of "incentives"? (P.S., calling a handout an 'incentive' doesnt actually make it an 'incentive'.)

ENTERTAINMENT, mainly.

First the events stipends were cut. Then the events button was removed. It doesn't work to charge for entertainment in a game, unless it's highest of high-brow - like the plays in Alphaville we all used to pay hundreds in advance to attend, cause it was kind of like the city leaders attending the ballet. (Not that everyone was like that, but it had that "cultural" air to it.) Then everybody who is anybody will pay to be there and be seen there.

It will NOT pay me to run the Game Show Channel here, and I know this. I also know there could be changes made to the game where it WOULD pay me. In fact, just the event stipends would help. (My reference to stipends earlier was the weekly ones.)

There just isn't much else in the way of occupations to be had, as we really can't serve people hamburgers, clean their houses, take care of their accounts, set their bones, clean their teeth, run their movies, fight their wars, take their dictation, or very much of any of the real world at all.

This isn't the real world; it's a virtual world, and some enterprises need built-in incentives. Entertainment is of value in the virtual world, and there should be a business model that actually works - in other words, like better dwell.

Print more money and give it directly to anyone who ever wants to hold an event.

I think that's the gist of it. We'll see if I'm right.

Print more money and give it directly to anyone who ever wants to hold an event.

I think that's the gist of it. We'll see if I'm right.

Oh shit, I called it.

I still just DO NOT GET why people do not use the entry fee/temporary pass function that land has. L$5! L$10! People would pay it! To go to a club, or a dance, or a trivia game, or an artistic competition, or a raffle, or a poetry reading, or a History of Breakdancing exhibit, or a... you get the idea.

But I have NEVER seen this used!

People already have the capability to get paid for an event!

Sienna, the problem is there is no WAY to "work for Lindens" by providing entertainment. That's a generalization, but it is true.

coco

Of course you did.

What's wrong with better dwell payments?

Really. Are you sure? So then this isn't just a big charade that is actually you asking for more money?



That is the money.



That's also the money. Maybe this is why you get made fun of.

The issue is, 1) money for free, and 2) money for work.

Do you want more of #1 or #2? I can assure you, there is plenty of both. It does, however, take SOME form of input.

Sitting on your tuchas and screaming for more fun is not viable input.

Of course you did.

What's wrong with better dwell payments?

coco

It will NOT pay me to run the Game Show Channel here, and I know this.

There just isn't much else in the way of occupations to be had, as we really can't serve people hamburgers, clean their houses, take care of their accounts, set their bones, clean their teeth, run their movies, fight their wars, take their dictation, or very much of any of the real world at all.

This isn't the real world; it's a virtual world, and some enterprises need built-in incentives.

Entertainment is of value in the virtual world, and there should be a business model that actually works

in other words, like better dwell.