Suicide Girls Redux

Coz god knows if a poll doesn't go the way you want - it's alts logging in and skewing the results - yet totally accurate if it swings the way you like

Personally I'm gonna laugh and show what 'tolerance' is all about - I've not met a single one of these folks, but hell, judging from all this hooplah it seems they are my kinda people.

I'm gonna invite them all to join the 'Tardation Nation' - to come chill and hang out on Sunday in a 'get to know you' edition of 'Fucktard Radio Live' on Sunday.

The only event you don't even have to show up to be a part of, just tune into http://winter.wavestreamer.com:2973 on Sunday at 2pm

I think it would be cool!

Nice but not required.

I think you're taking it too personally Lewis. I don't think that anyone is speaking out just because YOU hold this point of view, but because they don't like the point of view you hold, which has nothing really to do with you PERSONALLY. (was that confusing? sorry )

Siggy, i know a former suicide girl on Yahoo, judging by your posts over my 5 months here, if she is typical of a Suicide Girl, theyre very much your kind of people.
If that night comes off, it'll be a blast.

No doubt you would say exactly the same if it wasn't your point of view that was winning.




You're welcome to them, I am quite prepared to exercise my right as to who to have, and not have, on land I own.

Lewis

LOL actually I've never taken that point of view, I've always thought polls to be rather funny as its like a 10% of 10% of 10% kinda thing. I just think its humorous that you leap to the 'alt' conclusion because it doesn't seem to support your views. 'Folks don't think like I do - so it MUST be skewed!' I find it a humoursly arrogant veiwpoint to have.

And they're invading your land now? LOL

As Christopher Walken would say:

I have a fever, and the only prescription that can help it is more drama!

Cowbell on dudes!

Man I thought nothing would make me laugh before I go to work today - I'm so glad I was wrong.

LOL come on now Siggy you know that only 10% of sl even reads the forums. These polls always go one way Alt abuse in the fourms. No way /end sarcasm

Actually, not one of them is online right now. I wonder why that is?

Lewis

Beg to differ I see 3

I dunno, but please share your conspiracy theory. I'm sure it's a corker.

I'm sure it isn't a result of the warm reception they've had.

I think it's pretty cool and a smart move by LL. I also have no problem with the last name. Political correctness is highly overrated.

cue the dramatic music....check
where are we on the list of put downs?
"conspiracy theory, sir"
good good did we cover mental illness yet?
"yes sir!"
alright how about the guy having no life, has that been covered fully?
"well sir we tried but I think that the troops need to go over that one a little more to drive home the point"
Well *get on with it man, I haven't got all day, there are french fries waiting to be cooked!
Single that bastard out! We don't need his kind here.


*typo queen

Yeah god knows that can be the only explanation when a poll doesn't go your way.

I will be posting in the announcements forums later today about learning what is entailed in helping an existing web community integrate into Second Life.

The project with the Suicide Girls has been very helpful in learning how something like this could scale to other communities. Part of this is looking at custom last names and other types of services for communities.

The land is being used in conjunction with this project and that is why it is under my ownership.

Wilder

I'm all for them. Its in itneresting take on social look by a creative group who wants to use SL commercially. I am glad they are going to SL and think that it is good that SL is getting notice in the oline alternative community. God knows most everyone in SL is failry gothic, gorean or furry anyway. The SG's are no different than anyother commubnity in SL, or any other group. Who am I to judge?

Yeah thier last name is controversial, its mean to be. Its a challenge, taking the word out of context and using as a last name-to me it challegens the stereotype of the punk-goth girls as whining presuicidal cutters. It is an in-your-face reflection of the stereotype.


As fas as I can tell they did not get any more special treatment than any other group, and if they did, hell it could be fair exchange for SL propmotion on thier site. Has bedazzled been hired to build them an Island yet?

I suppose if you wanted to take advantage of the free land they get, you could always join the group.

And Ingrid, I fully understand and support the notion of bringing beefcake to SL for the ladies, or for the gents to whom that appeals. why not have a little bit of RL subculture crossover inot the thriving SL subculture. We can always choose not to particpate, as I do with the gorean stuff.

Notice something, Cat. The person you think is being marginalized is the one arguing that these people should not be in SL and it is a bad thing. People are arguing that they have every right to be here, and offering their support. Which side is not representing an open society?

*pouts* That's *all* I want out of this, man!

So what kind of project is it? Is LL listening our concerns about the chosen name? Does LL feel that "Suicide" is within the CS? If so what other types of names are also now acceptable?

Cat

As part of this open society I welcome all opinions, even if I disagree with them. I do not however strong arm them into my way of thinking. That would make this a closed society. That's his opinion, I think he has a right to speak just as much as you and I do.

What's hypocritical is your kvetching about open societies while trying to police someone else's choice of name -- one of the simplest and most important means of free expression.

I think that in light of the Suicide last name, we really need to start a campaign to free Wuvme's alt, which was ruthlessly changed from Dildo to Darling.

I've not said that they have no right to be here..... it's just the 'official deal' with LL that troubles me.

We start with a fairly innocent 'normal' pornsite.... what next, groups of paedophiles and zoophiles exercising their 'rights' in game, with LL's blessing? Woo hoo.... anyone want to start a necropaedozooscatophile group so we can cover all special interest groups in one go?

Lewis

He has been allowed to speak it - it does not mean that position will not be challenged. Especially when he starts to make comments about people lacking morals. You can't enforce your morality on anyone else. Lewis is entitled to his own opinion - what he is not entitled to do is completely denigrate strangers based upon their liking porn or supporting a web site. SL is open to us all, not just the people that meet the standards of Lewis' morality, or anyone elses (except LL's, as it is their company).

haha.. thanks Jake.

And thanks to everyone who didn't blow me off as a puritanical nut. People who know me can tell you I am definetely not. I just get troubled when I read stuff like this:

"The recent wave of SuicideGirl defections has reignited Dia’s anti-SG passion. Like many of the women who have shared their stories in the blogosphere, Dia describes a prickly relationship with SG president Suhl. This man, she says, is the SuicideGirls puppeteer; he is "verbally abusive" to his models and wields more control than Missy does. "It’s exploitational to women, and abusive," she says, "because it lures women in with a marketing scheme that purports feminism, when in actuality the sole owner of the company is an active misogynist."


http://www.bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/05016155.asp