Suicide Girls Redux

btw, Lewis, just curious. Where do you keep your personal stash? Faxes folder? Portable hard drive? Hidden partition?

SL is not RL. RL has more consequences for this sort of thing. By living your RL you're not giving up time that you could spend by doing something else, and you can't just quit unless you, um, commit suicide.

And it's not a case of "every single thing"; it's a case of "the thing you want to do". It's always been the case that some people who might want to be "famous" content creators in SL aren't able to because they aren't talented enough; but, ok, SL can't do anything about that. Now it's going further. Now it's saying that some people who might want to be "famous" models/dancers/whatever in SL can't do it, because everyone can know whether they are one IRL or not and will naturally favour the ones who are. And this can have something done about it - namely, removing the tag that lets people tell which is which.

It will be interesting to see what happens, as this is the first time the more social-type users of SL have been subjected to something like this.

I must be missing something here. Could somebody explain why the word "suicide" is offensive? Some people might find it disturbing, or saddening, or be uncomfortable with it, but how on earth is it offensive?

Are people just getting the word offensive mixed up with other, more accurate, descriptions of what they feel about the word "suicide"?

If it's suddenly an offensive word then I missed that particular meeting, sorry to say.

I'd say that anyone who leaves SL over the last name Suicide shouldn't be playing games anyway, they should be seeing a doctor.

I just had an interesting look at the Group.

Out of all the 100 members and officers, only one person shows as owning land in this group.

Wilder Linden - 7230 sq m.

I have checked Wilder's other groups, and it says they have donated 0 sq m to the other groups that they belong to.

Is it incorrect to assume that through this association, this group has been given a free parcel of land by a Linden as part of the 'deal'?

If this is true..... this truly does break LL's own code of ethics. Not only that, it's a smack in the teeth for every paying SL member too.

How many other people are going to tier down or quit in disgust over this whole sordid affair?

I'd say that anyone who leaves SL over the last name Suicide shouldn't be playing games anyway, they should be seeing a doctor.

Well, Moopf, Nolan kind of unwittingly explained it in his earlier post. I.E: You don't see "Murder" or "Rape" or any other act of violence in the last name list, do you? Cops classify suicide as an act of violence.

Cristiano: How does it break their code of ethics? It doesn't, because they don't have one! hahahahahahahaha ask me another.

As far as the land deal is concerned, it's this way:

"Linden Lab Gives Special Last Name and Free Land to Porn Site Members!"

How do you get free land for your group in SL? Take off your clothes! (And be female.)

coco

Isn't there a scene in "Revenge of the Nerds" where the hero-nerd is performing a barely-off screen sex act on a cheerleader (or something) and this wins her away from the "jock"? If I'm correct and there is such a scene (or something similar) how is that good entertainment... and worthy of influencing one's choosing an avatar name, yet some avatars with an arguably benign last name are intolerable? Just because I meet someone in SL doesn't mean I go searching the net for pictures of them - nude or otherwise. Why do I get the feeling some people can't restrain themselves from doing so and assume others are similarly incapable of self-restraint?

How dare you belittle those who happen to have a different viewpoint to yours. You can't honestly look at the PAGES of posts on this subject and say that it's not a big deal to many people.

Lewis

How dare you belittle those who happen to have a different viewpoint to yours.

Well, Moopf, Nolan kind of unwittingly explained it in his earlier post. I.E: You don't see "Murder" or "Rape" or any other act of violence in the last name list, do you? Cops classify suicide as an act of violence.

Cristiano: How does it break their code of ethics? It doesn't, because they don't have one! hahahahahahahaha ask me another.

As far as the land deal is concerned, it's this way:

"Linden Lab Gives Special Last Name and Free Land to Porn Site Members!"

How do you get free land for your group in SL? Take off your clothes! (And be female.)

coco

How does it break their code of ethics?? LL can give free land or service to any customer or group of customers they choose.

It could be for any number of reasons. Let's not go jumping to negative conclusions or wildly speculating before Wilder has had a chance to explain why.

You're speculating.

I'd say that anyone who leaves SL over the last name Suicide shouldn't be playing games anyway, they should be seeing a doctor.

This is priceless.

How dare you belittle those who happen to have a different viewpoint to yours. You can't honestly look at the PAGES of posts on this subject and say that it's not a big deal to many people.

Lewis

taking a stand against something you believe is wrong, no matter how petty it might seem to others is not a sign of mental illness

The scene you refer to is definitely off camera.

"Nerd" is an arguably benign name, "Suicide" is not.

Why do you think the girls are here? To drum up business. Do you really think that they won't be sweet talking guys and saying "if you buy a membership to our site you can see naked pictures of me *giggle* it's only $4 a month"

130,000 SL members don't have naked pictures of themselves available on the web. The 100 "Suicide Girls" who have been signed up to play SL are here because they DO have naked pictures of themselves available on the web, and they want to get people to sign up! If you expect them not to be touting for business in game then I think you are seriously deluded. Maybe SL is worried about the low standard of call girls and hookers in game so they signed up a deal with a group of professionals to provide a better service?

This group has been GIVEN free land, 100 free accounts signed up - all of this costs you and me money - and what has been given to LL for this 'deal'? A couple of 'lifetime memberships' to the site and a box of tissues?

Lewis

Seriously, where do you get this sense of entitlement?

Don't play games. There's a big difference between disagreeing with someone, and attacking them for holding that view. I did the former, you did the latter.

Lewis

I think that is pretty harsh. While I would certainly not leave SL over something like that, taking a stand against something you believe is wrong, no matter how petty it might seem to others, is not a sign of mental illness. I may not agree with Lewis on most things, but his being offended by this is something I can at least understand and respect.

My lady keeps her Playboys on the coffee table.