Suicide Girls Redux

Oh, no, I agree with you completely on both counts. I just mean, this is so much juicier than the bland issue of who gets to be hall monitor, y'know?

Here ya go...

I support the SG, their SL surname and their place in SL. I hope they stay and enjoy themselves.

I don't see what "personal issues" there are to sort. I don't have a problem with the fact that porn exists, or whether or not there's a lot of it in Second Life. It's people's individual choice what to do when faced with porn...... walk away, or indulge.

I'm just saying that LL in effect 'officially endorsing' the site and its content gives it a lot more clout than if they had decided to come here of their own accord and set up a sex club in game.

I would not give my money to a 'pay per view' porn site, therefore I object to the money I pay LL each month to play the game being tied up in a partnership deal with SG.

Lewis

/me registers her support of the Suicide Girls being in SL, even if they got a special deal with land and last names. (and I posted this way early in the other thread and this thread as well)

Reasons? They're new people who might have a lot of good things to contribute, they are not "objects" as long as they are the ones agreeing to and signing up to become Suicide Girls, and I don't feel threatened by their presence in SL.

(though I admit I would be very jealous if my boyfriend suddenly became part of their official fanbase or whatever, I still don't believe I would want them excluded from SL or want to see their names changed.)

1) LL hasn't partnered with them, merely provided them a last name to use. Or did you completely ignore Wilder's post in the other thread?

2) That little "freedom of speech" thing you and the censorship crowd refers to as a mere card to play is part of the Bill of Rights in the consitution and the thing the United States was founded upon, and something I'll fight and argue for any day of the week.

Regards,

-Flip

4) Those who legitimately think this is a non event.

Say no more, Lewis, say no more. You're obviously very troubled by this and you won't be able to justify continuing your time here. I completely understand. We all wish you well and we hope you'll return to us when you grow an open mind.

Take care, sir!

Have you seen one person here saying "yeah SG is a great site and well worth the $4 a month"?

I haven't....

Lewis

I've seen a lot of personal attacks in this (and the previously closed thread) against a group of your fellow Second Life Residents which have been quite intolerant. I'd like to remind everyone that combating intolerance is one of the "Big Six" in the Community Standards - and that every Resident has a right to live their Second Life the way they choose within the boundaries of the Community Standards.

The goal here is simple, all members of the community should treat each other with respect, be them Furry, Suicide Girl or anything else. To borrow again from the CS - while you may not agree with all of the behavior or actions of those in Second Life, all "actions that marginalize, belittle, or defame individuals or groups inhibit the satisfying exchange of ideas and diminish the Second Life community as whole."

Until they add a link to them in-world or on this website, it's not an endorsement.

You pay the same amount regardless of LL's agreement with SG. If they are giving anything away free, it's their loss, not yours - your fees do not increase as a result. If they were PAYING SG, with money earned from us, then you might have a point. But as they are apparently not, SG is getting none of your money, even indirectly.

SL is already, in essence, in partnerships with all the SL business owners that trade in pixelated sex and RL sexual imagery (both artistic and hardcore) within the game.

The Linden water cooler must be lots of fun today, Jeska.

What other names are acceptable?

Aborted
Abused
Bigot
Killer
Griefer
Violated

It's an honest question here so please do not take offense. Oh wait what am I saying, if suicide is not offensive then neither should any of the above names be.

I hope you all understand my point. Some words are negative and they are meant to have a negative impact. I think "Suicide" the word has a negative meaning. Disagree if you want but I think the majority of ppl also think it has a negative impact. More so dictionary definitions also define it as negative. I think that pretty much sums up my point on this.

Just wondering how far LL is going to take this. At what point will all of us agree they have gone too far, will it be too late by then?

Cat

There still remains the question of the land issue.

Besides, I don't care about the "Bill of Rights" .... it does NOT apply in a private online environment such as SL. Therefore it is entirely invalid to discuss.

Lewis

Yes, I have seen multiple people offer their support of the Suicide Girls and say that this is a good idea. You obviously are seeing only what you want to see.

There doesn't remain the question of the land issue - whatever terms they are privvy to is absolutely none of your business.

Trollop, Jezebel, fictional murderers, real murderers, just to name a few that LL obviously thinks are acceptible.

It's a great site. I don't pay the $4/mn simply because my monthly porn allowance is already tied up in other things.

That's not the issue. The issue is their presence in SL.

However, several people here have said they subscribe and/or ARE or have been Suicide Girls.

Reading selectively might be the problem...

So, could you tell me when LL is going to partner up with a Church to have an official presence in game? Wal-Mart perhaps? A record label? CNN? The list is endless.

Unfortunately when an issue such as this becomes a moral one, it is quite clear that many people have none whatsoever, and those who stand up for the moral viewpoint get attacked for being "narrow minded" or whatever.

Lewis

Come on tell us what you spend it on!

Hide your sexballs folks, Lewis is coming to purify SL.

See there you go again. Anyone who supports this has no morals, apparently - and that yours is the moral viewpoint. The only person you have any control over is yourself - you cannot dictate morals to anyone else. Someone who has a different morality than your own is not lacking in morals. That is the reason you are considered narrow minded.

/hide

It's not the moral view point, it's your moral viewpoint.