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Where are all the good men?

Pol Tabla
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05-26-2006 13:38
Has this thread had sex with me yet?

*taps foot impatiently*
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Squeedoo Shirakawa
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05-26-2006 14:15
From: Pol Tabla
Has this thread had sex with me yet?

*taps foot impatiently*


*hugs Pol* Aww, baby, you're the greatest! :D
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Billy Grace
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05-26-2006 14:27
Note: If the "perfect" man is out there... he is looking for the "perfect" woman... not you! DOHHH!!! :D
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Groucho Mandelbrot
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05-26-2006 15:19
I hope Elinea finds the real man she's looking for. Keeping all the narrow-minded bigots together makes them easier to identify.
Yiffy Yaffle
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05-27-2006 17:31
From: Pratyeka Muromachi
3 million years of evolution and humans are still at the level of animals for anything concerning sex...

Aroooooooo...
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Simon Nolan
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05-27-2006 19:26
From: Kiamat Dusk
I read her post and I still think you're being an oversensitive drama queen. She said she prefers white men, too-I don't see you going apoplectic about that! So if she doesn't date gay men-she's a bigot, but if she doesn't date black men, that's cool?! Maybe *you're* the one we should be branding with the Scarlet B. :rolleyes:


No apoplexy here. I thought it was quite clear in my post that I didn't expect her to date gay men. My only objection is the inference that gay men are not real men. You'll also note, if you reread my post, that her method of bringing race into the discussion was worrysome as well.

From: someone
Your first post was perfect. It was funny and got the point across.


I had hoped as much, but her response showed that it didn't get the point across, to her at least.

From: someone
Tighty whities? Tighty WHITIES!? :eek: Do you live in your mother's basement, too!? I think we need to get the Queer Eye crew in here, asap!


Nice ad hominem. It really bolsters your argument.

Not that it wouldn't be cool to meet the Fab Five. That Carson cracks me up, and the food guy is just adorable.
Groucho Mandelbrot
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05-28-2006 01:15
On a totally different topic, I have a question:

Where all the good women in SL? I know there are some real women out there, you know the ones who are not black or jewish or whatever, its just i cant seem to find them.
DolphPun Somme
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05-28-2006 01:18
Way uncool Groucho. Now (HOPEFULLY) the Lindens will just kill the *($@#**ing thread outright.
Fade Languish
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05-28-2006 01:51
From: Groucho Mandelbrot
Where all the good women in SL? I know there are some real women out there, you know the ones who are not black or jewish or whatever, its just i cant seem to find them.


*blinks*

No it really does say that. That is fucked up.
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Devlin Gallant
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05-28-2006 06:06
I am not a real man...

...but I play one on TV. :p
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Chance Abattoir
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05-28-2006 06:10
From: Elinea Richard
Where all the good men in SL? I know there are some real men out there, you know the ones who are not gay or bi or whatever, its just i cant seem to find them. If you think you know where to find such men please tell me here or IM me in world. Thank you in advance. ;)


Good in bed? Good in terms of morality? Good in political affiliation? Good in treatment of animals? Good in terms of having the right God? Good in terms of ability to lie to your face to make you feel good? Good because they put up with your crap? Good because they won't kick you out even if you have no source of income and watch soap operas all day long? Sorry, tangent. :)
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Chance Abattoir
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05-28-2006 06:18
From: Jake Reitveld
I suppose that I would likely fit the OP's definition of a real man. I admit to being a straight guy of the old school. My role models have always been Hemmingway, John Wayne and Bogart. I rarely cry, don't talk about my emotions and try to carry the whole world on my shoulder. I don't hit women, even if they hit me first or can kick my ass :). I like power tools, guns and war movies (one of the handful of times its acceptable to cry is at the end of saving private ryan-lol). I like women who wear high heels, I like baseball and rugby. I secretely fantasize that all women are lesbians, and I categorically know that if I made one or two changes in my teen years, I could be the biggest badass on the face of the planet today. :)

Well maybe thats an exaggeration, but hey I sort of fit the stereo type.

Still I don't think any of that is what makes someone a real man.

To me a real man has four qualities:

1. The are unapoloegiticly true to who they are: it does not matter if you are John Wayne or Carson Kressley, a real man is tru to himself.

2. Real men value honesty and integrity. Don't lie. Speak the truth.

3. Real men value decency and respect-even towrds those they may not agree with. (intolerance and bigotry are not excused by saying "I am just being true to who I am." Manners and respect for others are also hallmarks of a real man.

4. real men have compassion.


5. Real men have hemis.

6. Real men know FIC from SecondCitizen. ;)

7. Real men aren't afraid to kill at a moment's notice.

8. Real men are kind to animals, except when they poop on the rug. Then they go totally ape$hit and kill everyone in the room and later bury their remorse in a bottle of jack while looking at a picture of their former pet.

9. Real men piss on the wall of Plato's cave.

10. Real men live east of me by 2 hours.
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Torley Linden
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05-28-2006 16:28
Just a reminder to please keep the thread from straying into intolerant comments and other violations of the Community Standards. :)
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05-28-2006 17:35
From: Chance Abattoir
5. Real men have hemis.


Bah.

Real men get blown. :D
Alex Fitzsimmons
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05-29-2006 00:37
From: Torley Linden
Just a reminder to please keep the thread from straying into intolerant comments and other violations of the Community Standards. :)


You mean like the original post?

Kudos, Groucho. The person who posted after you didn't get your point apparently, but I did. Notice also, everyone, how it's (somewhat) okay to single out gay people, but a post that singles out specific races, and even then ONLY to make a point, is unacceptable.

Ironically, the reaction only reinforces the point.

Torley, this thread STARTED OUT with overtones of intolerance. You can't honestly be worried that it might "stray" there, can you? I mean, seriously! ;)
Kiamat Dusk
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05-29-2006 06:37
From: Alex Fitzsimmons
You mean like the original post?

Kudos, Groucho. The person who posted after you didn't get your point apparently, but I did. Notice also, everyone, how it's (somewhat) okay to single out gay people, but a post that singles out specific races, and even then ONLY to make a point, is unacceptable.

Ironically, the reaction only reinforces the point.

Torley, this thread STARTED OUT with overtones of intolerance. You can't honestly be worried that it might "stray" there, can you? I mean, seriously! ;)



So because the op isn't open to dating all males, including ones who are only interested in dating other men or want to date other men a well a women she's intolerant?!

The only intolerance in this thread has come from the oversensitive, over PC people in this thread who have branded this woman a homophobe and worse simply for stating the type of guy she's looking to meet. Are you goinng to head out to all the dating sites now and start slapping the homophobe and bigot brand on every profile!?

-Kiamat Dusk
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Groucho Mandelbrot
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05-29-2006 14:58
From: Kiamat Dusk
So because the op isn't open to dating all males, including ones who are only interested in dating other men or want to date other men a well a women she's intolerant?!

Just about everyone who has responded here seemed to be willing to write off the original post (and perhaps your first few posts, Kiamat) as simple ignorance. It would have blown over in the first page if there had just been a simple apology admitting that the post was impulsive, poorly thought-out and that she didn't really mean what she was so clearly inferring.

But no, she (and you) decided to turn the thread into something that is so mind-numblingly stupid in its defiance of simple logic, even just plain old common sense. For the nth time in the thread you've championed the cause of this poor girl who apparently is being continually harrassed by gay men trying to force her into dating them. Is that really such a serious problem in SL? Gay men stalking innocent hetero girls.

The inference in the first post was 100% clear and you can prove that to yourself when you substitute race for sexual orientation, as I did above.

From: someone
Are you goinng to head out to all the dating sites now and start slapping the homophobe and bigot brand on every profile!?

Maybe, if the women posting their profiles are as bigoted or clueless as the OP. Wouldn't it have accomplished the same goal for her to post "woman seeking good man for monogamous relationship". Doesn't that kind of rule out those she is hoping to avoid, without inferring that gays or bisexuals are not "good" and not "real men"?
Alex Fitzsimmons
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05-29-2006 17:21
From: Kiamat Dusk
So because the op isn't open to dating all males, including ones who are only interested in dating other men or want to date other men a well a women she's intolerant?!

The only intolerance in this thread has come from the oversensitive, over PC people in this thread who have branded this woman a homophobe and worse simply for stating the type of guy she's looking to meet. Are you goinng to head out to all the dating sites now and start slapping the homophobe and bigot brand on every profile!?

-Kiamat Dusk


This is not a discussion, as far as I'm concerned. As Groucho pointed out, you need only substitute racial groups for the words "gay" and "bisexual" to see the very obvious problem. I'm not going to dignify you with an argument because at this point you're either incapable of understanding (I doubt it), too driven by your own agenda to see the obvious (possible), or too determined not to be wrong to ever give up, no matter how obviously wrong you know in your heart you in fact are (very likely).

In all three of those cases, any effort I make is going to fall on deaf ears, so why bother at all? It's a little like arguing with someone who insists that 2+2 doesn't equal 4. If the self-evident nature of it isn't enough, what argument could you hope to convince the person with?

The vast majority of people clearly see the problem, and that will do. ;)
Kiamat Dusk
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05-29-2006 19:52
From: Alex Fitzsimmons
As Groucho pointed out, you need only substitute racial groups for the words "gay" and "bisexual" to see the very obvious problem.


You mean like when she said this?

From: Elinea Richard
My comments are not anymore bigotted then me saying that I prefer white men over black men. Its my taste.


She did just that and no one, not one of you gay or otherwise said a damn thing about it. You're so locked in to your "everybody has to feel bad for me" pity party that it blew right by you. Or maybe you just don't care as much as you pretend. Seems to my like the only cause you're concerned about is your own and you'll find that cause anywhere you look even if you have to fabricate it.

And since when does she have to apologize to you or anybody. If you don't meet her criteria move on.

-Kiamat Dusk
...but stay away from Juro-he's mine. :p
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Groucho Mandelbrot
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05-29-2006 21:15
From: Kiamat Dusk
You mean like when she said this?...

No, actually nothing like that. That is neither an admission nor an apology for her original bigoted post. Her statement about black men is completely irrelevant. Her original post says nothing about her preferences other than that she doesn't consider gay men good or even "real men". On that she is very clear.

As Alex says, you fail at logic. And you obviously just aren't even trying to understand the complaint about her original post.

But since you brought it up, I find her comment on black/white equally as humorous and possibly as damning as her original. I can only imagine the poor girl carrying on a SL relationship with a "good", "real man" (who is absolutely not gay!) and then being crushed to find out that he was black in real life. Wouldn't that be a pity?

From: someone
She did just that and no one, not one of you gay or otherwise said a damn thing about it. You're so locked in to your "everybody has to feel bad for me" pity party that it blew right by you. Or maybe you just don't care as much as you pretend. Seems to my like the only cause you're concerned about is your own and you'll find that cause anywhere you look even if you have to fabricate it.

So you think this is some sort of crazy gay (or "otherwise", whatever that means) crusade?

From: someone
And since when does she have to apologize to you or anybody. If you don't meet her criteria move on.

She doesn't and you don't either. As long as you are willing to accept that you appear either to be bigoted against homosexuals or just plain dumb.
Margaret Mfume
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05-29-2006 21:49
From: Kiamat Dusk
If you don't meet her criteria move on.

This is the General forum. In the personal section of the classifieds your statement might make some sense. In this forum, however, one who expects to be able to post without garnering a reaction or comment from all sorts of people (even a straight, white, real woman such as myself) is a fool.
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Ekim Bienenstich
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05-29-2006 22:20
"Real" men and even "Real" women aren't in SL. They are at a RL social gathering of some sort waiting for you to go meet them and go talk to them! To me SL is just a game! It's a game that has gotten so wrapped up in itself that people cant distinguish between RL and SL. People use SL to live out their lives and actually think that the AV is them! They put unwarrented RL emotions and stresses into SL that are completely and utterly irelevent. I had a fight with a Gf I met in SL and we broke up because of what I did in SL. She treated it as if it was RL and we had a serious RL fight that ultimately led to our break up!! I seriously couldn't phathom that we actually had a fight about SL that led to our breakup. It has gotten so perverse to the point that people cant determine what is real and what is not real (SL). To me this is completely pathetic and sad that a lot of us are mental slaves to SL with its grip of trickery and deception into thinking that what takes place in SL has the worth of RL. I even wouldn't use SL to gain RL money! Then to me it wouldnt be a game anymore!
I play SL to have fun! Seriousness or RL has no place in SL for me!

Yes the person sitting behind the computer playing SL is real but everything that takes place in SL in NOT real!!
So If you want a real man then go find that real man that is sitting behing the computer and stop using SL as your relationship catalist!

This is my advice to you!
Vudu Suavage
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05-29-2006 22:24
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Kirstin Pierce
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05-30-2006 09:27
Lets all find our happy place!!! wowsa. Lemme pass out hugs and as I read earlier in another forum...pudding. How about a little respect for our brothers and sisters? Yep, I was born in the 60's come on now everyone lets try a group hug. :)
Nick Vilas
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05-30-2006 09:56
"Where are all the good men?"

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